Mag 4 Ohio quake, epicenter was within 1 mile from fracking waste water injection well

[FogerRox]

100's of last years Arkansas Guy Swarm quakes occurred mostly within a mile of an injection well situated on top of a fault. Recent Oklahoma quakes were 25-30 miles from any fracking waste water injection wells and are likely not connected. Recent Oklahoma quakes were 25-30 miles from any fracking waste water injection wells and are likely not connected, while the Mag 5 Virginia quake last year was over 75 miles from any fracking activity.






http://www.wksu.org/news/story/30335

http://thecomingcrisis.blogspot.com/2011/12/earthquakes-force-ohio-to-shut-down.html


Another earthquake in the Youngstown area has caused the state to shut down a well that’s been taking in millions of gallons of fluid left over from the drilling process called “fracking. Natural Resources Director James Zehringer says the state’s top priority is the public’s health and protection of natural resources, and he is not willing to gamble with safety.


Info on Aug, 2011 Virginia quake

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/08/24/1010212/-NO-connection,-quake-to-gas-fracking

Info on Arkansas Guy Swarm

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/03/01/951529/-Arkansas-quakes,-Fracking-and-injection-induced-quakes?via=blog_694100

[hedgehog]

1. I talked to my aunt who lives in the area. The back story

is that Pennsylvania told the drillers they can't dump the waste brine into creeks any more. So all that wastewater is being pumped into the ground in Youngstown - at a site near Salt Springs Road!

[Curmudgeoness]

3. And they are drilling more injection wells

all around the area. You are right, PA does not allow injection wells either, we also stopped them from trying to "treat" it in our water treatment facilities. So Ohio has decided that it is a boon for them. I know this area needs the jobs, but this is no way to do it.

[Curmudgeoness]

2. The 11th this year in the same area,

all starting in March after the injection well started to take fracking waste.

But we are told that there is no "proof" that there is a connection. Uh, if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck, and shakes like a duck....most reasonable people will say it is a duck.

[FogerRox]

5. Temporal and spatial relationships are the key factor

I've done quite a bit of research and writing over the last year on the relationship, and when you use the USGS standard: "Temporal and spatial relationships", its clear which injection wells are causing quakes. The 2 daily kos links in the OP are articles I wrote.

Unlike the Virginia and Oklahoma quakes, the Ohio quakes, are as you says... Ducks.

[Curmudgeoness]

7. I would be very interested in having more information

on temporal and spatial relationships and how you determine this. Sadly, I am not sure how much I would be able to follow. And having that information will be of little use when I am still having to continually repeat that it is not the gas wells that are causing the earthquakes, but the injection wells. Too many people are not getting educated on the Marcellus/Utica fracking procedures, and that makes so many of us "fractivists" sound like fools.

This is not to say there is not a lot of problem with the gas wells, and things that we may not know yet, but so far, it is only injection wells that appear to be the cause of these earthquakes. I heard a caller on the radio with a reasonable explanation of how this could be causing the earthquakes, related to the geology of the area, but there was too much information and I was just driving home from work so I did not catch enough to ponder on it.

[FogerRox]

11. temporal and spatial relationships see the link to the daily kos Guy Swarm article

above -In the OP.

I wrote that with an emphasize on technical detail drawn from research papers and USGS documents/statements.

[HopeHoops]

4. Well, I am just SO shocked.

PA is a disaster waiting to happen, and Gov. Frackhead Corbett doesn't give a shit as long as he gets his payoff.

[lacrew]

6. How does this compare to the '98 or '86 earthquakes?

[FogerRox]

8. Please be a lot more specific. I assume you're talking about Ohio...?

Compare? Compare what injection wells? Magnitude?

I can tell you this Trumball county has like no history of quakes.

[lacrew]

9. Youngstown, Ohio

Does anyone know how the recent quake compares to the '98 event....in intensity and type?

[FogerRox]

10. It might be in the Archive.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/

[Curmudgeoness]

12. Here is some info on those...

The 1998 earthquake was a 5.0, not really close to Youngstown and the area of these new quakes. They also could not study the fault that caused this quake because they set up seismic equipment to monitor it and there were never aftershocks and there was never another incident.

http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/OhioSeismicNetwork/earthquakes/980925/980925/tabid/8363/Default.aspx

The 1986 quake was even farther from Youngstown, although it was felt there. It was centered in Lake County.

http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/geosurvey/earthquakes/860131/860131/tabid/8365/Default.aspx

It appears that the Salt Spring Road area is on a fault line that is being disrupted by the injection wells. I have been listening the local radio, and the geology people calling in were suggesting that these wells are injecting with much pressure fluids into these faults, which is giving lubrication that is allowing the fault to move easier. I will reserve judgment on all this, but I know in my gut that there is some correlation.

[Hubert Flottz]

13. Same thing is happening in West Virginia.

Mini quakes near northern WV injection wells.

[FogerRox]

14. Which is the good part of the Marcellus Shale in WV.