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Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 02:01 PM Jan 2018

Here is my letter to Lindsay Graham:

Senator Graham,

I was born and bred in South Carolina and have followed its politics for over 60 years. I am a Democrat and have disagreed with you about policies many times. However, I also know a little of your life story and your determination to succeed while taking care of your sister is very admirable. As a JAG and a Senator I felt you were a good representative for our state no matter how much we differed.

However, I no longer recognize the person I have admired. You have gone from a critic of the Trump administration on several vital issues to a lapdog who does nothing. As a JAG and from your Senatorial experience, you of all people know the damage being done in many areas. This is well beyond Democrat versus Republican. People are taking sides about the very foundations our country was built upon.

There have been many rumors that you are being blackmailed. I would have dismissed this out of hand but your behavior is so unlike the person I have admired. I am ashamed of you.

As a JAG, you took an oath as well as when you became a Senator. Either uphold that oath even at risk to yourself or resign immediately. I know I may be asking a steep price, but this country is worth any price and that includes sacrificing me and mine. If it ever reaches that point, I will not stand on the sidelines and watch the destruction.

Man up or get out. You can be Smedly Butler or Benedict Arnold. The choice is yours.


(Short version: Get up or get out)

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Here is my letter to Lindsay Graham: (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries Jan 2018 OP
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Jan 2018 #1
His behavior disgraces the uniform we both wore The Polack MSgt Jan 2018 #2
His behavior disgraces the uniform my dad wore. sprinkleeninow Jan 2018 #32
Good letter. MontanaMama Jan 2018 #3
I sent it at 12 noon. Are_grits_groceries Jan 2018 #15
I would have left out the blackmail part...pretty much guarantees he won't be seeing it. brooklynite Jan 2018 #4
Nope. Are_grits_groceries Jan 2018 #19
As we often say... MontanaMama Jan 2018 #22
What's difficult about criticizing his actions without speculating about the reason? brooklynite Jan 2018 #23
K&R... spanone Jan 2018 #5
hi grits, do you think it's blackmail from trump & co, barbtries Jan 2018 #6
Because Trump is so predictable... JohnnyA Jan 2018 #10
that was my first thought barbtries Jan 2018 #26
Remember atreides1 Jan 2018 #31
he is not above anything at all barbtries Jan 2018 #43
Maybe both. Are_grits_groceries Jan 2018 #17
with plenty of company. barbtries Jan 2018 #25
Trump and Russia are the same at this point More_Cowbell Jan 2018 #28
ahh, maybe barbtries Jan 2018 #42
donnie (the dump) is a member of a crime family. One of his patrons knows how to "off" undesirables erronis Jan 2018 #44
Thank you. I need to do the same. GoCubsGo Jan 2018 #7
Its the old Southern method Are_grits_groceries Jan 2018 #18
K & R malaise Jan 2018 #8
Way to go Grits CanonRay Jan 2018 #9
Excellent letter PatSeg Jan 2018 #11
Make sure you tuck Mr.Bill Jan 2018 #12
Wow well said!! tiptonic Jan 2018 #13
Now that's a model of an effective letter, I think. MineralMan Jan 2018 #14
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2018 #16
He's a traitor duforsure Jan 2018 #20
It is possible FSB or GRU passed on information on Graham to Enoki33 Jan 2018 #21
Grahams term is up 2020 djacq Jan 2018 #24
EXCELLENT! Ohiogal Jan 2018 #27
Could be blackmailed, is this why? SummerSnow Jan 2018 #29
No. Reputable newspapers reported on this, Hortensis Jan 2018 #49
Awesome! I hope you get an answer FakeNoose Jan 2018 #30
Way to go. MLAA Jan 2018 #33
He sure managed to find a way drink the Orange Kool-Aid somehow. 3catwoman3 Jan 2018 #34
They are fine. Are_grits_groceries Jan 2018 #37
I was so happy for you when you... 3catwoman3 Jan 2018 #41
Commendable, neighbor. sprinkleeninow Jan 2018 #35
A huge K & R geardaddy Jan 2018 #36
Excellent letter, well said. So much better than anything I could've said mountain grammy Jan 2018 #38
WOW -- Smedly Butler or Benedict Arnold RandomAccess Jan 2018 #39
Outstanding! CrispyQ Jan 2018 #40
Excellent letter, Grits Hekate Jan 2018 #45
Katy Tur is reporting that LG and Durbin met with DT spooky3 Jan 2018 #46
Who knows? Are_grits_groceries Jan 2018 #47
General Smedley Butler who save this country from a fascist takeover orchestrated by Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #48
Oh, yes! A "cocktail putsch," or a genuine attempt covered up Hortensis Jan 2018 #50
Have you read the transcripts for the congressional hearings? Very damning. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #51

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
15. I sent it at 12 noon.
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 03:09 PM
Jan 2018

I got a generic response but on the email form I asked for a written response.
We shall see.

MontanaMama

(23,292 posts)
22. As we often say...
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 03:44 PM
Jan 2018

If the truth offends you, by all means avoid it! If Lindsey doesn't like the optics, he can make a change.

barbtries

(28,753 posts)
6. hi grits, do you think it's blackmail from trump & co,
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 02:21 PM
Jan 2018

or russian kompromat? cause i tend to think the former. like when they went golfing he was casually shown some pictures of himself doing something he does not want the public to know about. like that. of course we may never know.

i sure do wonder. he isn't just a lapdog doing nothing at this point, with the letter he and grassley sent, he's actively working to undo the rule of law in the USA.

JohnnyA

(6 posts)
10. Because Trump is so predictable...
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 02:50 PM
Jan 2018

The nature of the blackmail is a pretty logical inference, since we know Graham's change of heart dated from the golf outings with Trump, and we know Trump's typical modus operandi--he would have threatened to out him.

barbtries

(28,753 posts)
26. that was my first thought
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 04:07 PM
Jan 2018

but that would not be a death knell for Graham, unless he was struck down due to decades of hypocrisy. i was thinking possibly something more lurid and as grits mentioned, quite possibly illegal.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
17. Maybe both.
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 03:12 PM
Jan 2018

I believe unless its pedophelia or some extraordinarily illegal behavior, he can recover if he acts for the country. It may be a long way back, but he’s going to go down as a traitor if he doesn’t act.

barbtries

(28,753 posts)
25. with plenty of company.
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 04:06 PM
Jan 2018

i cannot find a republican in congress with an iota of patriotism or empathy or concern for the country.

barbtries

(28,753 posts)
42. ahh, maybe
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 06:29 PM
Jan 2018

i had forgotten they got the republicans' emails too. maybe we can stop wondering what they're doing with them.

erronis

(15,164 posts)
44. donnie (the dump) is a member of a crime family. One of his patrons knows how to "off" undesirables
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 09:31 PM
Jan 2018

In very unpleasant ways. Don't forget polonium is toxic in its own right (lots of organ failures) but is also a nice radioactive that will get you if the first way doesn't.

How many of that patron's opponents have been hushed - permanently or slowly like a cat playing with a mouse?

Most of the craven repuglicans have already figured out that they better play ball with little donnie/family or tone down their rare ethics to match the T/RU flag.

GoCubsGo

(32,069 posts)
7. Thank you. I need to do the same.
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 02:33 PM
Jan 2018

I am having a hard time finding a way to be that civil at the moment. Just can't do it.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
18. Its the old Southern method
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 03:13 PM
Jan 2018

of ‘politing them to death.’
He knows I mean eff you and your horse you lying sack of crap.

tiptonic

(765 posts)
13. Wow well said!!
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 02:56 PM
Jan 2018

Luv ur handle by the way. To my wife, grits r for sure, groceries. Haven't heard the name Smedly Butler in a long time. I think Benedict Arnold fits here. Same for "Comrade Benedict donald'. Semper Fidelis. Semper Fidelis..

MineralMan

(146,242 posts)
14. Now that's a model of an effective letter, I think.
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 02:58 PM
Jan 2018

It has all the elements needed and makes its case very well.

I wish everyone would write as clearly and effectively to their elected representatives.

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
21. It is possible FSB or GRU passed on information on Graham to
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 03:29 PM
Jan 2018

tRump. They have that capability, and all the speculation is fueled by his willingness to betray much of what his past represented. One has to wonder how many other members of Congress are vulnerable to blackmail? Again, this is pure speculation.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
29. Could be blackmailed, is this why?
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 04:19 PM
Jan 2018

Confirmed: Lindsey Graham took huge money from Kremlin oligarch

http://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/oligarch-graham-lindsey-kremlin/7219/

* I'm sure this came up when they were so-called playing golf.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
49. No. Reputable newspapers reported on this,
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 08:41 AM
Jan 2018

and as even Palmer Report doesn't neglect to note, the money was legally donated to PACs, not directly to Republican politicians. Of course, it was Republican politicians who wrote and passed the law allowing foreigners to legally donate money to influence American politics through PACs.

Russia's favoring of Graham is very suspicious, of course. They all need to be investigated.

3catwoman3

(23,937 posts)
34. He sure managed to find a way drink the Orange Kool-Aid somehow.
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 04:35 PM
Jan 2018

Maybe he got waterboarded with it.

How are Moonpie and Tater? (I sure hope I am remembering their names right.)

sprinkleeninow

(20,197 posts)
35. Commendable, neighbor.
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 04:37 PM
Jan 2018

Will follow your script somewhat in missives to my 'C-critters'.

Appreciative!

~sprink
💙󾓦💪🗽

mountain grammy

(26,594 posts)
38. Excellent letter, well said. So much better than anything I could've said
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 04:56 PM
Jan 2018

like, Mitch, you lying sack of shit. Get out of the way!

Of course, he's not my Senator.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
39. WOW -- Smedly Butler or Benedict Arnold
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 05:56 PM
Jan 2018

Ouch to the actual fuck.

Great letter, and obviously I LOVE the punch line.

CrispyQ

(36,411 posts)
40. Outstanding!
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 05:57 PM
Jan 2018

This especially:

As a JAG and from your Senatorial experience, you of all people know the damage being done in many areas. This is well beyond Democrat versus Republican. People are taking sides about the very foundations our country was built upon.

spooky3

(34,390 posts)
46. Katy Tur is reporting that LG and Durbin met with DT
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 03:45 PM
Jan 2018

and LG has issued a statement. Maybe your letter spurred him on?

Demsrule86

(68,453 posts)
48. General Smedley Butler who save this country from a fascist takeover orchestrated by
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 08:10 AM
Jan 2018

the robber barons of the depression...wanted to throw Roosevelt out...kill him if gave them trouble...yes, General Butler went to Congress and ratted the conspirators out...the businessman's revolt.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
50. Oh, yes! A "cocktail putsch," or a genuine attempt covered up
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 08:53 AM
Jan 2018

for the good of the nation or some such tripe? Given the power of those people, it seems very likely to me that talk in some meeting must have progressed at least enough to be a grave concern, even if it didn't tip over the criminal line into active planning. Though who knows?

Wonder if a full record of the hearings will ever turn up or if all were destroyed?

Demsrule86

(68,453 posts)
51. Have you read the transcripts for the congressional hearings? Very damning.
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 07:42 PM
Jan 2018

They were guilty as sin.

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