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If you don't expect anything to be better personally or for the world.
I don't expect anything personally this year over last. They will just get worse and worse. But it's what I expect from life.
We are in the 1st or 2ed year of what will probably be a 30 or so year recovery so double digit unemployment is still here for a while.
mahina
(17,646 posts)BlueIris
(29,135 posts)Call me a pessimist, but I am expecting zero or negative growth, zero improvement in the job situation, and a worsening of the economy and society overall.
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)"It can't get much worse."
From the song "Getting Better" off Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)from that very album.
Different song, though, but still, kinda spooky.
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)'A Day in the Life' or 'She's Leaving Home'. Both of those songs put me to tears when I've been drinking. So sad, each in its own way.
johnnie
(23,616 posts)Is the sky still falling?
girl gone mad
(20,634 posts)recovery summer morphed into recovery fall and now we are in the midst of recovery winter.
All better. No need to worry your pretty head.
johnnie
(23,616 posts)It just seems that DU has turned into such a gloomy place.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)unless the sky has crushed you, or is about to.
johnnie
(23,616 posts)Maybe I'm just dating myself.
emilyg
(22,742 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)::sigh::
RKP5637
(67,104 posts)make things better across the world. I do know one thing, it will be a hell of a lot worse if Obama is not elected. ... but really, what is going to magically change, I think we are in for a very long recovery, and probably a major change in lifestyles for many people, maybe permanently.
We had a pretty good formula here for quite awhile that worked for many, but it's been wrecked over the past several decades, I just do not see how suddenly things are going to get better in 2012.
Additionally, about 50% of this country lives in or near poverty, that's not going to suddenly get fixed. One thing that would help is if MSM started reporting better what is going on in this country and got out of the BS for Profit game. And if the media in the Hatred for Profit business went away!
frazzled
(18,402 posts)What an unusual way to start the year, with a great big Debbie Downer post. I don't know about the world's prospects, but I do know that negative attitudes in one's personal life usually don't lead to improvement. I'm not criticizing: I'm hoping you'll find the strength to envision something positive in your future and that by doing so, something positive will happen to you.
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)fwiw...
frazzled
(18,402 posts)the poster particularly wants to be pleasantly surprised. It sounded to me as if they were hoping, for some strange reason, that things would stay very bad, just to prove some point.
RKP5637
(67,104 posts)pleasantly surprised.
RB TexLa
(17,003 posts)Skittles
(153,147 posts)EVERYTHING WILL BE FINE!!!
frazzled
(18,402 posts)And writing it all in caps made it ever so much more compelling. Real intellectual stuff there.
I wish you people could see how over the top ridiculous your hand-wringing "oh noes, this is the worst time ever to have existed!! and it will never get better!!" sounds. I wonder how you ever would have made it through the Depression, or World War II, or a famine in a country with a crazy dictator, or in Prague when the Russian tanks rolled in to take over your country's government. My grandparents on both sides had to escape Europe with only the clothes on their backs: and they were the lucky ones. You have to contend with 8.6% unemployment. Nobody is saying that's good, but you'd think we were living in Biafra in the late 60s, when a million people died from war and famine.
Skittles
(153,147 posts)LOL, get OVER yourself PLEASE!!!
frazzled
(18,402 posts)who are responding with gloom-and-doom prophecy.
Warpy
(111,245 posts)although I'm sure there will be fresh outrages from the Roberts court and the political bullshit will be flying over every single media channel that allows advertising.
We have little hope anything will improve as long as the Teabagger Congress is in session.
Our only hope is that things are bad enough the lot of the conservatives are gone in 2013.
ETA: Optimists are set up to be crushed when their view of the future fails to come true, while pessimists are pleasantly surprised when theirs does.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Got to love pessimists, they make the market, usually for all the wrong reasons.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Every summer since Obama took office, the predictions of a double dip recession fill DU.
Meanwhile, the Dow has run in a range between about 10k and 12.5k ... if all you did was sell some when the DOW passed say 11.5k, and then bought more each time the DOW dropped under 11k ... you made money.
The UE is slowly improving ... even with all of the GOP obstruction. We continue to add provate sector jobs even as the GOP tries to fire every public sector worker.
The GOP and Bush made a huge mess, and I think, as a nation, we've recovered more than I thought would could back in Jan 2009. Sure, everyone wants it to happen NOW ... but the mess was too big ... so I am very optimistic about the future.
Back when the DOW was falling to 6500, I was encouraging right wingers to SELL SELL SELL!!!! They were predicting a DOW of 2k.
And I hope they lost a fortune.
Skittles
(153,147 posts)because we did not exit the first one
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)unless the definition of the word can be what every you want it to be.
In that case, words like "recession", and "double-dip" can be tossed around freely on internet web sites, and their meanings, and the opinions of those tossing them around, become pretty irrelevant.
rusty fender
(3,428 posts)That is according to Randi Rhodes. She's the only person reporting this. The recession is over, the economy has recovered and unemployment is on a downward trend. You just have to believe!!! Faith is all you need.
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MedicalAdmin
(4,143 posts)Of course I am dying sontuat is to be expected.
But for those who will keep living I don't envy you your fight. The future is so shaded I gotta wear brights.
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unkachuck
(6,295 posts)....but I see no reason for optimism in 2012....if anything, things will get worse....
....corporations will continue to stagnate the economy to deprive the Democrats and Obama of the numbers they need for re-election....
....OWS and baggers will clash with the system as the system continues to crush dissent and civil liberties....
....the two Parties will put on their disconnected election and convention spectacles to the astonishment and detriment of struggling Americans....
....most peoples' income won't rise, unemployment will remain high hidden in cooked numbers, inflation and stagnation will be seen, felt and buried in all commodities....
....the global economy will suck, wall street and the banksters' influence will increase, and new wars and crisis's will be created to further loot the treasury....
....other than that, everything will be fine....
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)and one of my new years resolutions is to keep my eye on what is happening politically but to spend my time making my little nest here a happy joyful little corner of the world. A sanctuary. I am going to personally try and improve things in my community to the best of my ability. Right now I am working to help a family of five that were living in their car get settled in to a motel till they can get on their feet. I will make a difference in small ways. I have lost hope that I can personally effect any change on a national level. I don't have the kind of money it takes to get a conressman's attention.
moobu2
(4,822 posts)President Obama will be re-elected and pick several more supreme court judges. It's going to be great!! I'm calling it.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)I'm feeling very optimistic about the new year.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)Of course what will wake them up will be the loud crunching noises coming from all corners of the human experiment - from the world economy, the environment, global culture, the environment, national politics, the environment, energy supplies, the environment...
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)Dirty Socialist
(3,252 posts)I think things will get beter in 2012, but only slightly so.
toddaa
(2,518 posts)Between global warming and peak oil, these will be the good old days.
Happy new year.
SixthSense
(829 posts)wouldn't be all that terribly high a threshold to meet
but for the general economic environment, prepare for an apocalypse!
By the way the word "apocalypse" is NOT a synonym of "armageddon" - the real definition of the word is something so wholly positive that I wonder how we ever came to fear it in the first place.
cyglet
(529 posts)and is there one?
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)RB TexLa
(17,003 posts)Stuart G
(38,416 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,079 posts)I have long given up expecting anything better. And, I have long given up on expecting to find a job. I only keep applying because I have no other choice. Unfortunately, in my field most of the jobs are in state and federal government. People are getting laid off there, so not only are there fewer jobs, there is more competition for the few that are out there. Yippee.
Autumn
(45,056 posts)We will have the Democrats trying to put band aids on a gushing wound and the pukes will continue to rip the band aids off.