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RB TexLa

(17,003 posts)
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 11:21 PM Jan 2012

Check in in you don't expect anything to be better in 2012

If you don't expect anything to be better personally or for the world.

I don't expect anything personally this year over last. They will just get worse and worse. But it's what I expect from life.

We are in the 1st or 2ed year of what will probably be a 30 or so year recovery so double digit unemployment is still here for a while.

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Check in in you don't expect anything to be better in 2012 (Original Post) RB TexLa Jan 2012 OP
Can I check in if I'm not sure? mahina Jan 2012 #1
'Sup. BlueIris Jan 2012 #2
Computers will continue to get faster, cheaper, and more ubiquitous Electric Monk Jan 2012 #3
To quote the inimitable John Lennon (responding to McCartney): coalition_unwilling Jan 2012 #4
Ok, now that's just spooky. After posting (above) I went to pour a drink and started singing Electric Monk Jan 2012 #13
Great minds and all that. At least it wasn't coalition_unwilling Jan 2012 #17
Oh lordy johnnie Jan 2012 #5
Nah.. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #6
I'm not worried johnnie Jan 2012 #9
Everything's cool pintobean Jan 2012 #12
Do you know the story of Chicken Little? johnnie Jan 2012 #20
Checking in. emilyg Jan 2012 #7
Checking in. Odin2005 Jan 2012 #8
continuing to hope for the best while preparing for the worse Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #10
I hate to sound pessimistic, but I don't know where the magic is coming from to suddenly RKP5637 Jan 2012 #11
Pessimists usually get what they expect frazzled Jan 2012 #14
They also get pleasantly surprised much more often than optimists do Electric Monk Jan 2012 #16
It didn't sound as if ... frazzled Jan 2012 #18
Yep, that's a good way of looking at it all. Generally those that expect less are often more RKP5637 Jan 2012 #19
I'm not looking for anything positive, life it what it is. RB TexLa Jan 2012 #24
yes, just THINK HAPPY THOUGHTS!!! Skittles Jan 2012 #26
Thanks for the facile response frazzled Jan 2012 #33
YOU PEOPLE??? Skittles Jan 2012 #40
Yeah, the people in this thread frazzled Jan 2012 #46
Most things will simply stay the same Warpy Jan 2012 #15
I buy when everyone else is selling. Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #21
You nailed this ... JoePhilly Jan 2012 #23
there was no double dip Skittles Jan 2012 #28
Technically, we did exit the first recession ... JoePhilly Jan 2012 #42
The economy grew by 3% last year! rusty fender Jan 2012 #48
pintobean Jan 2012 #30
Worse personally. MedicalAdmin Jan 2012 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author oxymoron Jan 2012 #25
generally, I'm optimistic.... unkachuck Jan 2012 #27
I think you are right Mojorabbit Jan 2012 #38
It's going to be a fantastic year moobu2 Jan 2012 #29
I'm with you! DesertRat Jan 2012 #32
One thing will be better in 2012 - a lot more people will wake up, and that's always a good thing GliderGuider Jan 2012 #31
Cautiously pessemistic Populist_Prole Jan 2012 #34
I Disagree Somewhat Dirty Socialist Jan 2012 #35
It's drip, drip, drip from here on out toddaa Jan 2012 #36
I might end up better off personally SixthSense Jan 2012 #37
When do we hit bottom cyglet Jan 2012 #39
You seem to be suffering from clinical depression. Have you considered seeking professional help? RBInMaine Jan 2012 #41
I am not suffering from any conditions. RB TexLa Jan 2012 #47
You Never Know...end of post.. Stuart G Jan 2012 #43
Sadly, I don't. GoCubsGo Jan 2012 #44
More or less the same. Autumn Jan 2012 #45

BlueIris

(29,135 posts)
2. 'Sup.
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 11:25 PM
Jan 2012

Call me a pessimist, but I am expecting zero or negative growth, zero improvement in the job situation, and a worsening of the economy and society overall.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
4. To quote the inimitable John Lennon (responding to McCartney):
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 11:27 PM
Jan 2012

"It can't get much worse."

From the song "Getting Better" off Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band

 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
13. Ok, now that's just spooky. After posting (above) I went to pour a drink and started singing
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 11:35 PM
Jan 2012

from that very album.

Different song, though, but still, kinda spooky.



 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
17. Great minds and all that. At least it wasn't
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 11:42 PM
Jan 2012

'A Day in the Life' or 'She's Leaving Home'. Both of those songs put me to tears when I've been drinking. So sad, each in its own way.

girl gone mad

(20,634 posts)
6. Nah..
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 11:29 PM
Jan 2012

recovery summer morphed into recovery fall and now we are in the midst of recovery winter.

All better. No need to worry your pretty head.

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
11. I hate to sound pessimistic, but I don't know where the magic is coming from to suddenly
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 11:33 PM
Jan 2012

make things better across the world. I do know one thing, it will be a hell of a lot worse if Obama is not elected. ... but really, what is going to magically change, I think we are in for a very long recovery, and probably a major change in lifestyles for many people, maybe permanently.

We had a pretty good formula here for quite awhile that worked for many, but it's been wrecked over the past several decades, I just do not see how suddenly things are going to get better in 2012.

Additionally, about 50% of this country lives in or near poverty, that's not going to suddenly get fixed. One thing that would help is if MSM started reporting better what is going on in this country and got out of the BS for Profit game. And if the media in the Hatred for Profit business went away!

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
14. Pessimists usually get what they expect
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 11:38 PM
Jan 2012

What an unusual way to start the year, with a great big Debbie Downer post. I don't know about the world's prospects, but I do know that negative attitudes in one's personal life usually don't lead to improvement. I'm not criticizing: I'm hoping you'll find the strength to envision something positive in your future and that by doing so, something positive will happen to you.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
18. It didn't sound as if ...
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 11:43 PM
Jan 2012

the poster particularly wants to be pleasantly surprised. It sounded to me as if they were hoping, for some strange reason, that things would stay very bad, just to prove some point.

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
19. Yep, that's a good way of looking at it all. Generally those that expect less are often more
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 11:43 PM
Jan 2012

pleasantly surprised.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
33. Thanks for the facile response
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 02:12 AM
Jan 2012

And writing it all in caps made it ever so much more compelling. Real intellectual stuff there.

I wish you people could see how over the top ridiculous your hand-wringing "oh noes, this is the worst time ever to have existed!! and it will never get better!!" sounds. I wonder how you ever would have made it through the Depression, or World War II, or a famine in a country with a crazy dictator, or in Prague when the Russian tanks rolled in to take over your country's government. My grandparents on both sides had to escape Europe with only the clothes on their backs: and they were the lucky ones. You have to contend with 8.6% unemployment. Nobody is saying that's good, but you'd think we were living in Biafra in the late 60s, when a million people died from war and famine.



Warpy

(111,245 posts)
15. Most things will simply stay the same
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 11:38 PM
Jan 2012

although I'm sure there will be fresh outrages from the Roberts court and the political bullshit will be flying over every single media channel that allows advertising.

We have little hope anything will improve as long as the Teabagger Congress is in session.

Our only hope is that things are bad enough the lot of the conservatives are gone in 2013.

ETA: Optimists are set up to be crushed when their view of the future fails to come true, while pessimists are pleasantly surprised when theirs does.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
21. I buy when everyone else is selling.
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 11:47 PM
Jan 2012

Got to love pessimists, they make the market, usually for all the wrong reasons.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
23. You nailed this ...
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 11:57 PM
Jan 2012

Every summer since Obama took office, the predictions of a double dip recession fill DU.

Meanwhile, the Dow has run in a range between about 10k and 12.5k ... if all you did was sell some when the DOW passed say 11.5k, and then bought more each time the DOW dropped under 11k ... you made money.

The UE is slowly improving ... even with all of the GOP obstruction. We continue to add provate sector jobs even as the GOP tries to fire every public sector worker.

The GOP and Bush made a huge mess, and I think, as a nation, we've recovered more than I thought would could back in Jan 2009. Sure, everyone wants it to happen NOW ... but the mess was too big ... so I am very optimistic about the future.

Back when the DOW was falling to 6500, I was encouraging right wingers to SELL SELL SELL!!!! They were predicting a DOW of 2k.

And I hope they lost a fortune.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
42. Technically, we did exit the first recession ...
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 08:59 AM
Jan 2012

unless the definition of the word can be what every you want it to be.

In that case, words like "recession", and "double-dip" can be tossed around freely on internet web sites, and their meanings, and the opinions of those tossing them around, become pretty irrelevant.

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
48. The economy grew by 3% last year!
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 01:30 PM
Jan 2012

That is according to Randi Rhodes. She's the only person reporting this. The recession is over, the economy has recovered and unemployment is on a downward trend. You just have to believe!!! Faith is all you need.

MedicalAdmin

(4,143 posts)
22. Worse personally.
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 11:56 PM
Jan 2012

Of course I am dying sontuat is to be expected.

But for those who will keep living I don't envy you your fight. The future is so shaded I gotta wear brights.

Response to RB TexLa (Original post)

 

unkachuck

(6,295 posts)
27. generally, I'm optimistic....
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 12:16 AM
Jan 2012

....but I see no reason for optimism in 2012....if anything, things will get worse....

....corporations will continue to stagnate the economy to deprive the Democrats and Obama of the numbers they need for re-election....

....OWS and baggers will clash with the system as the system continues to crush dissent and civil liberties....

....the two Parties will put on their disconnected election and convention spectacles to the astonishment and detriment of struggling Americans....

....most peoples' income won't rise, unemployment will remain high hidden in cooked numbers, inflation and stagnation will be seen, felt and buried in all commodities....

....the global economy will suck, wall street and the banksters' influence will increase, and new wars and crisis's will be created to further loot the treasury....

....other than that, everything will be fine....

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
38. I think you are right
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 03:50 AM
Jan 2012

and one of my new years resolutions is to keep my eye on what is happening politically but to spend my time making my little nest here a happy joyful little corner of the world. A sanctuary. I am going to personally try and improve things in my community to the best of my ability. Right now I am working to help a family of five that were living in their car get settled in to a motel till they can get on their feet. I will make a difference in small ways. I have lost hope that I can personally effect any change on a national level. I don't have the kind of money it takes to get a conressman's attention.

moobu2

(4,822 posts)
29. It's going to be a fantastic year
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 12:21 AM
Jan 2012

President Obama will be re-elected and pick several more supreme court judges. It's going to be great!! I'm calling it.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
31. One thing will be better in 2012 - a lot more people will wake up, and that's always a good thing
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 12:24 AM
Jan 2012

Of course what will wake them up will be the loud crunching noises coming from all corners of the human experiment - from the world economy, the environment, global culture, the environment, national politics, the environment, energy supplies, the environment...

toddaa

(2,518 posts)
36. It's drip, drip, drip from here on out
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 02:28 AM
Jan 2012

Between global warming and peak oil, these will be the good old days.

Happy new year.

 

SixthSense

(829 posts)
37. I might end up better off personally
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 03:41 AM
Jan 2012

wouldn't be all that terribly high a threshold to meet

but for the general economic environment, prepare for an apocalypse!

By the way the word "apocalypse" is NOT a synonym of "armageddon" - the real definition of the word is something so wholly positive that I wonder how we ever came to fear it in the first place.

GoCubsGo

(32,079 posts)
44. Sadly, I don't.
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 09:07 AM
Jan 2012

I have long given up expecting anything better. And, I have long given up on expecting to find a job. I only keep applying because I have no other choice. Unfortunately, in my field most of the jobs are in state and federal government. People are getting laid off there, so not only are there fewer jobs, there is more competition for the few that are out there. Yippee.

Autumn

(45,056 posts)
45. More or less the same.
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 09:21 AM
Jan 2012

We will have the Democrats trying to put band aids on a gushing wound and the pukes will continue to rip the band aids off.

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