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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFebruary 16th 2018. The beginning of the end for the Trump administration.
Yesterday, Mueller proved America was attacked. He also proved Trump lied to the American people about the attack, which proves Trump supported an attack on American in order to take control of our government.
Trump has been helping the country that attacked us by refusing to put in place sanctions congress passed. He has been supporting policies that benefit Russia. Trump has also tried to destroy the free press and he tried to take control of the justice department.
This is the definition of a traitor. You do not have to be in declared war for someone to be called a traitor. Trump the traitor.
Trump can no longer fire Mueller, that would be suicide. When Mueller brings charges against Trump and dozens of indictments against Americans that were involved in this plot it will be devastating. Trump will not survive.
Forty people were indicted for Watergate. This is much bigger.
WhiteTara
(29,692 posts)It is the time to clean house in all respects and prepare for the new year.
Thank you Bob Mueller and TEAM!
fierywoman
(7,671 posts)"I much prefer dogs to cockerel" -- year of the dog instead of chicken -- imagine the metaphoric possibilities!
WhiteTara
(29,692 posts)around the world stage. I guess Mueller is our first example of the new year with his loyalty to the constitution and rule of law.
fierywoman
(7,671 posts)femmocrat
(28,394 posts)Now WE need to overturn this feckless Congress in November and start impeachment proceedings without delay.
connecticut yankee
(1,728 posts)that will give us Pence, who's even worse.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)then he's gone too.
Mueller knows how to take down entire groups not just their heads.
dchill
(38,444 posts)WhiteTara
(29,692 posts)BaileyBill
(171 posts)(January, actually) the Speaker of the House will hopefully be a Democrat, third in line of succession. Pence is dirty, too.
CabalPowered
(12,690 posts)Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)We'll destroy them in fair and square midterm elections.
Thereafter, impeachment would be a given.
But how deeply have they already gotten in de-equitizing the upcoming elections, and will a willing 35% audience continue to look the other way and make their job all the more easy?
ooky
(8,908 posts)He obviously thinks that the law doesnt apply to him. His refusal to enact the sanctions that Congress voted for are all the grounds for impeachment the House needs. They should issue him a warning to do it now or face impeachment. Too bad the Republicans are cowards.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)The Russian money was flowing freely among the gop traitors. They should all be charged with treason, starting at the top.
ooky
(8,908 posts)Of course, coward is a requirement for the job in the eyes of those who heavily fund their campaigns.
Sure it would be great if they are implicated for treason too, icing on the cake.
ffr
(22,665 posts)getagrip_already
(14,632 posts)Key members of congress met privatekly with the joint chiefs of staff and asked them what they would do if the president ordered them to move against congress or the judiciary. It was that scary.
Luckily, they ALL believed their oath was to the constitution, and not the president. To a person they declared they would not follow an order they believed to be illegal or unconstitutional.
I wonder if anyone has had that conversation recently?
jalan48
(13,842 posts)We can can no longer afford to look forward and not backward.
volstork
(5,399 posts)if this entire investigation might also be the beginning of the end for putin. I'm not savvy enough about Russian politics to know how that might play out, but it's interesting to consider...
shockey80
(4,379 posts)When all the facts come out the American people are going to become very angry. Eventually congress and the future president will hit Putin hard.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,007 posts)lark
(23,065 posts)but I keep hoping Mueller can indict the repug party for conspiracy against America, including Pence, McConnell, Ryan, Sessions, Nunes, and all the drumpf family that was involved in the theft of the election. I hope he finds proof of them & Russia hacking the vote, deleting dems from the voter roles, adding fake repugs and recording their repug votes. Only if it is proven that our election was stolen can real systematic changes be implemented. It will also depress repug voter turnout so we can get majorities in both houses and impeach Pence and drumpf.
Yesterday was masterful in protecting the investigation, just can't wait for the proof of their russian repugs treason to be made public!
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I can think of at least a dozen off the top of my head.
DFW
(54,298 posts)Anything this meticulously planned out in advance must have had contingencies made for this sort of thing as well. My only hope is that knowing our Constitution has no provision for negating a fraudulent election, they might not have bothered.
fierywoman
(7,671 posts)I doubt F-ing Moron Company & Sons gave this much thought other than grabbing as much in the moment as possible.
Stuart G
(38,414 posts)Toorich
(391 posts)but if I was, I'd pray that Mueller follows the Russian money all the way into the rethug PACS
and into the accounts of the smirking and the smug.
Also, I'd pray that he has a Russian canary since they can warble beautifully.
WhiteTara
(29,692 posts)Got all that money from the Russians too. They all think they are above the law.
shockey80
(4,379 posts)Congress will be forced to act.
Stonepounder
(4,033 posts)Mueller reports out the whole damn grand scheme to turn the US into a criminal oligarchy.
FAUX News goes bat-shit crazy about fake news, Mueller is a tool of the Clinton's, lock her up, etc.
Breitbart and the alt-Right, as well as the whole Russian bot-farm cranks into high gear about Mueller 'lies'.
The GOP decides it needs Senate and House Committees to 'investigate'.
And Trump and Putin laugh all the way to the bank.
mountain grammy
(26,598 posts)Botany
(70,447 posts)The Russians needed people inside of the U.S. to help run their scams and found them in
Team Trump, Fox News, the NRA, and the GOP.
BTW how did McConnell know that if he blocked Garland he would get somebody else to
vote for the SCOTUS?
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http://www.newsweek.com/mike-pence-was-handpicked-paul-manafort-696412
Russia is way deep into the Republican party.
Before Trump formally announced Pence as his vice presidential candidate, it was Manafort who made sure it happened, The New York Times reported last year.
Trump had hesitated to settle on Pence, who was governor of Indiana. Trump was fielding last-ditch appeals from New Jersey Governor Chris Christie and publicly said he had not made a final, final decision until advisers like Manafort reminded him of the importance of uniting the GOP around conservative Christian values.
CBS News reported that Pence was Manafort's "first choice" and that Manafort even lied about mechanical problems on Trump's plane to make the soon-to-be GOP nominee stay an extra day in Indiana to get to know Pence. In a phone call, Manafort assured Trump that Pence was the right choice and made a case that won over the real estate tycoon.
Manafort would later downplay his behind-the-scenes choice, telling the Times that Trump never seriously doubted Pence.
mountain grammy
(26,598 posts)Wish I could see a resolution, but not seeing it yet.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)He's always denied it. Now it's: There was interference but nothing to do with me!
I know we've had notices that This Is It before, but I think this is REALLY it, or at least the start of It.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)Laundering money is not difficult, so no tycoon!