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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSenator Brian Schatz from Hawaii tweeted:
"I am normally interested in compromise. Not this time. I cannot imagine a bill that would make a difference that the NRA supports. We don't need to cut a deal with them, we need to beat them!"
I agree with him. The NRA has drawn a line and there is no compromise anywhere, so evident at CPAC
50 Shades Of Blue
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dbackjon
(6,578 posts)Is a teacher with a handgun going to charge a shooter with a gun shooting hundreds of rounds?
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Cha
(296,775 posts)Mahalo, Senator!
FM123
(10,053 posts)Wish we had him instead of Rubio here in Florida...
Cha
(296,775 posts)former Gov Neil Abercrombie's legacy to us.
He appointed him to fill in Sen Daniel Inouye's seat when he passed on.. and then won the special election and was reelected in 2016.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Schatz
He's a sweetie.. afaik he didn't pile on Sen Franklin, either. I know you're probably not suppose to talk about our senators that way.. but here I am.
Mahalo to you for his Tweet, FM!
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,239 posts)I don't know a thing about him except that wikipedia entry, but I'd be willing to swap both my senators for him.
Actually, if you could spare some small mammal or cuddly insect, I'd trade both McConnell and Paul.
It ain't fair.
Cha
(296,775 posts)move to Hawaii, Hermit!
I know.. you love Kentucky.. just not your idiotic Senators.
The Kentucky state house turned Blue, though.. hope it's a good start for ya'll!
OldEurope
(1,273 posts)Schatz is German for treasure and is also used far and wide as term of endearment. My son calls his fianceé "Schatz".
Cha
(296,775 posts)I remember that now from my past.. somewhere. lol
Mahalo, OldEurope
Wounded Bear
(58,584 posts)The NRA has repeatedly, over the last two decades refused to compromise on anything gun-related and has demanded that all of their opinions be voted into law.
Fuck 'em.
unblock
(52,113 posts)let them be the ones who reject it.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)All compromise is based on give and take, but there can be no give and take on fundamentals. All compromise on fundamentals is a surrender, for it is all give and no take. Mahatma Gandhi
appalachiablue
(41,102 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)That will remove the NRA's power in politics.
Their money is toxic.
efhmc
(14,721 posts)the sake of the NRA. So the representatives of the people are not even brought into the conversation anymore.
Cha
(296,775 posts)of Recs.. Yay!
True Blue American
(17,981 posts)I know the gun companies support them, but at $40 a year dues where is the flood of money coming from? The companies that give members huge discounts?
They spent 21 Million On Trump and $19 Million against Hillary!
Where is all that money coming from?
Is that one of the things that make you go,Hmmm?
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)from donations to politicians (new donors have tried displacing NRA money to little effect), but rather from the many millions of people passionately opposed to gun control. The NRA can direct that passion to elect a politician or to destroy him.
And of course the NRA (and very wealthy powers allied with the NRA--$$$$$) is always working to keep that source of its great power well fueled and burning.
True Blue American
(17,981 posts)That was my point, but I think you can now include Russians in that.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Their relationship goes back at least as far as 2011, and Russian pro-gun bots are currently flooding Twitter.
From Vox:
And an article just last week from CNBC is titled "NRA, Russia and Trump: How 'dark money' is poisoning American democracy."
We're living through fascinating times. Who could have imagined in 1980 that the NRA and millions of rabidly anti-Russia Bircher-type supporters would come to see Russia as their wise and benevolent friend and their own government as their huge enemy?
Happily, these are also becoming very bad times for the NRA. May take a while yet, but it looks like their self-destructive extremism is nearing its end. it's hard to see how they will survive as a political power.
True Blue American
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You are right and can see this cancer on our country exposed.
I know that is hyperbole, but why not? The other side does the same.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)from all this off-the-leash extremism. I know I'm more than ready for one.
Those types, right and left, will always be with us, and we only prosper and progress when the far larger more moderate blocs are able to unite to keep extremism in check.
OhNo-Really
(3,985 posts)ffr
(22,665 posts)The NRA may have served a purpose at one time, but their cause has been bastardized into supporting the most outlandish kooky ideas ever.