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BREAKING: Trump confidant dumped millions in steel-related stock last week, days before tariff (Original Post) pbmus Mar 2018 OP
kick blogslut Mar 2018 #1
Wow,the Wellstone ruled Mar 2018 #2
kick...if he knew..illegal..and I think he knew...damn!!! no text.. Stuart G Mar 2018 #3
If true, wonder if Carl Icahn is covered and smiling, or angry. Hortensis Mar 2018 #4
Apparently he told someone. shraby Mar 2018 #5
Icahn's corrupt scum. He and many others try to Hortensis Mar 2018 #6
I'm sure it's a coincidence... JDC Mar 2018 #7
It isn't a coincidence... but it also isn't corruption or insider trading. FBaggins Mar 2018 #11
An extremely fortuitous recommendation JDC Mar 2018 #12
What source do you have for that information neohippie Mar 2018 #18
Here's the report - Dated 1/11/18 FBaggins Mar 2018 #19
It will be interesting to watch neohippie Mar 2018 #20
Stephanie Ruhle reported it this morning, & off-camera someone yelled "WHAT?!" Hekate Mar 2018 #8
Not surprising Thekaspervote Mar 2018 #9
Carl Ichan Equals Insider Trading Generic Brad Mar 2018 #10
The ultimate gift... jmowreader Mar 2018 #13
What is "steel related"? former9thward Mar 2018 #14
Cranes. SunSeeker Mar 2018 #17
This is the definition of insider trading hueymahl Mar 2018 #15
As I said in a thread some months ago Best_man23 Mar 2018 #16

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. If true, wonder if Carl Icahn is covered and smiling, or angry.
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 02:18 PM
Mar 2018

Others said Trump didn't tell anyone he would announce the tariff and surprised all of them.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. Icahn's corrupt scum. He and many others try to
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 02:35 PM
Mar 2018

get Trump to make decisions that will benefit them, no matter what it does to our country.

But did Icahn know Trump would announce a tariff yesterday? So close to his stock dump?

To put it more baldly, is he safe?

FBaggins

(26,729 posts)
11. It isn't a coincidence... but it also isn't corruption or insider trading.
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 04:24 PM
Mar 2018

The Dept of Commerce recommended the move a full week and a half before his sale.

neohippie

(1,142 posts)
18. What source do you have for that information
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 04:38 PM
Mar 2018

I was told that the Dept of Commerce made recommendations on Feb 16th the stock sales in question were Feb. 12th?

FBaggins

(26,729 posts)
19. Here's the report - Dated 1/11/18
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 07:27 PM
Mar 2018

THE EFFECT OF IMPORTS OF STEEL ON THE NATIONAL SECURITY

https://www.commerce.gov/sites/commerce.gov/files/the_effect_of_imports_of_steel_on_the_national_security_-_with_redactions_-_20180111.pdf

the stock sales in question were Feb. 12th?

I missed that. I only saw that the SEC filing was on the 22nd.

neohippie

(1,142 posts)
20. It will be interesting to watch
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 09:48 AM
Mar 2018

Even though Trump had said he may use tariffs to address imbalances in trade, and this report suggesting that tariffs on steel and aluminum was released, it still wasn't expected that Trump would just declare that he was going to actually impose the tariffs.

I think everyone would agree that none of the agencies that would be involved in actually having to shape and implement this policy change were expecting the announcement or ready to put the tariffs in place.

The fact that Ichan who had up until the date of February 12th not moved on selling any of his stocks until that day, the same week that the Dept publicly made their recommendation to Trump seems pretty suspicious.

Somehow I doubt there will be any move to investigate any hints of insider trading by a power supporter and friend of the President, by the Trump led agencies, who seem to want to dismantle as much regulation as they can while they are able to do so.

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
8. Stephanie Ruhle reported it this morning, & off-camera someone yelled "WHAT?!"
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 04:07 PM
Mar 2018

But I'm sure Icahn wouldn't do insider trading. It's all a coinkydink.

jmowreader

(50,555 posts)
13. The ultimate gift...
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 04:29 PM
Mar 2018

...will be if Trump tipped his friend off that he was about to impose those tariffs. That's a clean insider-trading offense and there'll be no way the GOP can worm its way out of dealing with it.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
17. Cranes.
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 04:38 PM
Mar 2018
In a little-noticed SEC filing submitted on February 22, 2018, Icahn disclosed that he systematically sold off nearly 1 million shares of Manitowoc Company Inc. Manitowoc is a “is a leading global manufacturer of cranes and lifting solutions” and, therefore, heavily dependent on steel to make its products. 
...
Trump’s announcement rattled the markets, with steel-dependent stocks hardest hit. Manitowoc stock plunged, losing about 6 percent of its value. Reuters attributed the drop to the fact that Manitowoc is a “major consumer of steel.” As of 10:20 a.m. Friday, the stock had lost an additional 6 percent, trading at $26.21. 


https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2002492

Icahn is a scumbag.

hueymahl

(2,495 posts)
15. This is the definition of insider trading
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 04:36 PM
Mar 2018

If he had advance notice of the pending Tarriff's. Congress has, disgustingly, exempted themselves from the insider trading rules. That does not extend to Mr. Icahn.

The SEC is generally underfunded. But these are the types of high-profile targets they like to go after now and again.

Best_man23

(4,897 posts)
16. As I said in a thread some months ago
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 04:37 PM
Mar 2018

I should get a job at the Trump Asylum so I can engage in Insider trading without ramifications like Cheetolini's "confidants".

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029503322

Again, did they bring Chris Cox back to the SEC? Just seems like they're acting like they did back in the 2005-2008 timeframe when all the naked short selling and other crap was going on.

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