how would a Clinton presidency look right now?

[Proud liberal 80]

There would be so many frivolous investigations going on right now with this Republican Congress. Fox News would be devoted 24/7 covering all the “scandals” and even the so called liberal media would be covering the stuff.

Don’t get me wrong, I voted for Hillary and wish she was POTUS over Trump. Trump’s presidency is a nightmare, her presidency would have been hell for her and us

We would be looking at a shellacking this upcoming November because to Deplorables would be all riled up

A good thing would be that we wouldn’t have Gorsuch, but I still think the SCOTUS would be 4-4 because McConnel wouldn’t allow a vote on Hillary’s pick.

[Dem2]

2. that came out of nowhere

[lpbk2713]

8. ... and that's where it is right now.

:poof:

[yardwork]

4. What absolute bullshit.

[Hortensis]

62. My thought exactly.

Even without considering that without interference, including Russia bots that build on and multiply negativisms like this, Hillary and the rest of our Democratic candidates were headed for a big sweep.

An honest election would have given America a Democratically controlled senate, and observers were even saying we might get a majority in the house, certainly that it was amazingly possible.

We're in the runup to the most momentous midterms of possibly OUR LIVES. These behaviors prove that turning our government over to conservative hyenas in 2016 taught some people nothing.

The Kremlin is undoubtedly using them again, right now, to try to steal THIS sweeping victory away from us as well.

[unblock]

3. And Donnie would be treated as the sage and elder statesmen of the republican party

He’d be hitting Hillary the way he hit obama on the brother crap. One wild accusation after another, but the media would drool over it unquestioningly.

[lunamagica]

28. So?

[unblock]

37. Buttons

[Cha]

55. So? we wouldn't have a perverted Russian

mole, idiotic moron as the one with the finger on the nuke button.

[tblue37]

65. And he would have Trump TV to amplify his BS. nt

[Tommy_Carcetti]

5. Better than the shit show we have right now. nt

[malaise]

100. If at the end of this Mueller investigation we see lots of

criminals taken down including the colluding ReTHUGs and improvements to the system, we may all be satisfied.

[sunonmars]

6. The Nixon Presidency is looking saintly now compared to this......

[EffieBlack]

7. Spot on

It would still be infinitely better than this disastrous cesspool we’re drowning in now. But you’re right. Hillary would be under constant attack from Republicans and the press - with many “progressive” Democrats right on the front lines alongside them, smearing her for not being leftist enough - and Trump would be a 24/7 media presence.

[Dem2]

9. Literally had one in this thread

take a swipe at her - basically calling her a war monger. See 1st response (now deleted)

[yardwork]

12. Russian troll talking points.

[Boomerproud]

10. It would be great for us (except for contantly having to defend her) but

in reality it would be a living hell for her.

[EffieBlack]

15. True. But she would have still kicked their asses

and then wiggled her shoulders and dared them to come at her again.

[Wwcd]

38. She surely would have.

They're still trying to justify there vote for trump.

She'd have kicked their asses is right.
Putin didn't fear her because she's stupid. It is her smarts & strategic thought process that sent a panic through his bones. He knew damned well she would have squeezed him out of power.

HRC 🍃🕊

[Cha]

60. But, damn Hillary is Strong and she could

handle it. Just ask her.. I bet she'd love it if the fucking Russians hadn't stolen it for trump.

[Proud liberal 80]

11. Yep

Trump would be constantly be on air talking about how the election was rigged.

The Republicans would investigate the Russian meddling, but the focus would be on the Obama administration’s failure to stop it and try to link it to helping Hillary

[Cha]

76. So the fuck what? Instead we have this shite..

Link to tweet

Pure madness: Dark days inside the White House as Trump shocks and rages

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142003583#top

[Cha]

78. That would have been freaking Peanuts to what

we have now.

Link to tweet

Pure madness: Dark days inside the White House as Trump shocks and rages

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142003583#top

[EffieBlack]

94. Definitely

Only we wouldn’t know it because no one would assume that the alternative would be THIS bad.

Instead, we’d be getting bombarded with “Hillary’s so unpopular ... buyers’ remorse ... blah blah blah” from the media who would, just like they do now, park their lazy asses in diners throughout Trump Country so they could hear how much the “forgotten” Americans hate Hillary - and they’d do all of this with a big assist from so-called progressives who would be bitching and whining about her 24/7 because she didn’t give them two ponies.

And if anyone tried to tell them how bad the alternative would have been, the response would be the same as it was when we tried to warn people during the campaign: “Oh, come on - stop being so DRAMATIC! He’s all talk. There’s no way he’d actually do that! And even if he tried, Congress wouldn’t let him.”

Yeah, right.

[Orange Free State]

13. I would rather lay naked on broken glass while having a root canal

than listen to Trump blabber endlessly about how good things would have been if he had only been elected. And with the present congress Hilary would not have been able to accomplish anything. At least with the Rethugs in charge of everything, attempts to blame others look ridiculous.

No smooth landing either way with this past election, I think.

[Aristus]

14. The Republicans I think I could deal with.

It's all of the 'concerned liberals' constantly wringing their hands over Wall Street, and speaking fees, and shrill speaking voices that would drive me crazy.

Unless President Hillary Clinton did something objectively wrong, I'd stand with her 100%.

[McCamy Taylor]

16. I can imagine Nader saying this in 2000. And Stein in 2016.

Nader in 2000 said that W. would energize the left and make things better in this country. And we all saw how W. worked out.

I am getting tired of self styled liberals claiming that the best way to achieve progress is to allow fascists to take over and hope for a revolution. This is not a humane solution to our problems. It is a way to make the poor and those living on the edges of poverty suffer.

A Clinton presidency might surprise you. What if the Russians stole 2008? Would you have breathed a sigh of relief that Obama would not have had to endure virtual lynchings at the hands of racist Republicans in Congress? Obama was an effective leader. Maybe Clinton would have been an effective leader.

[Proud liberal 80]

20. .

I am getting tired of self styled liberals claiming that the best way to achieve progress is to allow fascists to take over and hope for a revolution.

Where did I say that?

[shanny]

29. an inconvenient truth:

200,000+ Florida Democrats voted for Bush.

[stevenleser]

57. A statistic that means nothing. Anyone can register as anything.

I believe you and I have had this conversation before. Why you continue to bring up a meaningless statistic is beyond me

[Hortensis]

87. Inconvenient too: 1. Florida's a swing state with a closed primary,

so Republicans who're energized by hostility and fear to try to defeat Democrats in the primary (because their party produces no one good to vote for) register Democrat.

2. Florida has an especially large number of "Reagan Democrats," who always vote Republican for president. These older and/or working class whites have an especially huge problem with Democratic positions on social and racial issues, but also on economic.

This quote from Barney Bishop, an ex- executive director of the Florida Democratic Party, kind of illustrates both. We all know bigotry is a huge factor in the right's animus toward our social programs:

"Obamacare is an unmitigated disaster. It has been from the beginning. Any time that Congress passes something along strictly partisan lines, it probably is not a good thing. ... But Nanny Government knows best."

The rest of Mr. Bishop's old article's just the usual Republican lies heard all too often from our conservative Democrats, including right here on DU.

Btw, most of these people were already extremely angry that we elected Obama even before we nominated a strong, liberal woman for POTUS, and there's some question as to whether those who went to the White Nationalist Party in 2016 will come back. I hope they do not! They dishonor our party and muddy our message, confusing a lot more people than just you about who we are and what we're for.

[shanny]

88. Well someone's confused:

I wasn't talking about 2016. At all. Or primaries. At all.

[Hortensis]

89. I was! How come you went all the way back to Bush?

Sorry I didn't notice that, but a whole generation has grown up since then, and today's data are the ones that count.

You could update your argument for the current era, if you chose, but I don't see you would gain anything by that. Quite the contrary.

[shanny]

90. The post I responded to went back to Bush

and, in what I view as a spectacularly lazy, wrong-headed and self-defeating fashion blamed Nader for that loss, not vote suppression a la Katherine Harris, not the afore-mentioned 200,000 Democrats, not the butterfly ballot or the lack of an accurate count, and not the Supremes. I view the blame heaped on Stein to be similarly off base.

It was like the Titanic: so many separate things went wrong. If any one had been otherwise the result would be too.

As an old leftie I get REALLY tired of what I regard as hippie-punching. Nader has worked for the public good for longer than I've known him, a period that extends back to my college days and PIRG. I voted for him in 2000--a protest vote obviously, and one that had zero impact, as did all of my votes in blood red Wyoming.

Democrats--liberal or progressive--need to focus on what is actually costing us elections--voter suppression, election fraud including unsecured systems, gerrymandering, (the f@cking electoral college--see above) etc etc etc. Address those issues, and the elections won't be close enough to steal.

[Hortensis]

91. Your vote wasn't suppressed, though, was it? You misused

your power as a citizen by not doing your best to keep it from falling into the hands of the wrong people. What you call a "protest" vote was power you refused to use to protect our nation from them.

All political power comes from the people and ends up in the control of those elected to office. That's why fortunes are spent every day to try to affect our decisions on one day every two years.

If you hadn't voted at all, your citizen power would still have benefited the right wing in the election. And once in office, it would still have been used by them for everything you don't want. As it was and is.

My citizen power is in their control now and being used to achieve their evil ends. But at least I tried my best to keep it out of their hands by voting for the person who had an excellent chance of defeating them.

[shanny]

92. Didn't say my vote was suppressed.

I said it, like all votes cast against the majority in any lop-sided state, had zero impact. It counted for nothing. The principle of one man one vote is a sham with winner take all electoral college votes in place (or, say, in a primary when that is the case).

I didn't "misuse" my power; I had none. That's why I'm pissed off.

[Hortensis]

93. If you had no power, what the hell is Trump using now?

And congress. And your state and local governments?

Way past time to get thoughtful about where power comes from democracies and the duties of their citizens. Do you REALLY think any of these right-wingers would bother televising even one commercial or sending trolls to social media if they didn't need you to waste your power on their behalf?

COUNTDOWN TO THE MIDTERMS: 256 days

[shanny]

96. what are you on about?

My vote for Nader in Wyoming in 2000 had no power at all. None. Split was 70-30 or so. Wasn't going to affect the outcome in any way, shape or form. And because of the profoundly anti-democratic Electoral College, it didn't matter one whit on the national scene.

Trying to extrapolate from that to some profound meaning about democracies, voting in general, the powers and duties of citizens, state and local governments and tRump--trying to make this a Teaching Moment--is overblown, unnecessary and deeply silly.

I applaud your engagement but since we are simply talking past each other, I'm moving on with my day. Have a good one.

[stevenleser]

97. That person glossed over your point in #87 and doesn't want to acknowledge it

I've covered this with this person many times. i.e. your point:

Florida has an especially large number of "Reagan Democrats," who always vote Republican for president. These older and/or working class whites have an especially huge problem with Democratic positions on social and racial issues, but also on economic.

The way I have put it is, there are almost zero requirements anywhere in the US as to how someone registers to vote. Any eligible US voter reading this can tomorrow go and register as a Republican, Democrat, Green, Constitutional Party, National Socialist, Communist, etc., and there is nothing stopping them. So any judgments made over "Oh, gee, someone who registered D voted for X candidate" is completely worthless.
------------------------------
This totally destroys that person's point. They want to blame "Democrats" for Bush because X amount of folks who are registered Democrats voted for Bush. But it is a meaningless statistic for reasons you and I have both pointed out.

Furthermore to your point about Florida, a lot of those Reagan Democrats are located in the panhandle. They are on the leftmost part of the political spectrum in that area. Of course that area politically is similar to lower Alabama and Mississippi which it borders. So they don't identify with the rightmost 50% of the people near where they live, and the Democratic candidates that run locally mirror their views, but they vote for almost no national Democrats who are very far to the left of where they are.

[Hortensis]

98. I like the way you put it.

Don't know which points were blown off, or just missed entirely.

We're in a rural area near where north and central Florida meet, and there're plenty here also. Last year one of the zealous conservatives around here told me he was still a Democrat because the party needed people like them to take it over and restore values. I referred him to Our Revolution for more manpower.



At least that guy seemed to understand that what he did with his power mattered. And it's really sad, and dangerous, how little too many understand what the Democratic Party stands for and how little understanding of how policy positions reflect basic principles, if at all. Giving power to the Republicans and imagining it a principled move.

[Cha]

64. No "maybe" about it.

[NurseJackie]

101. Here's SUSAN SARANDON saying the exact same thing...

Just LOOK at how giddy and animated she is! She can barely contain her excitement at the horrors that await us.

I am getting tired of self styled liberals claiming that the best way to achieve progress is to allow fascists to take over and hope for a revolution. This is not a humane solution to our problems. It is a way to make the poor and those living on the edges of poverty suffer.

Thank you! Well said! I feel the exact same way.

[uponit7771]

103. +1

[ehrnst]

107. Yep. (nt)

[ehrnst]

106. That was nearly word for word a Susan Sarandon quote... (nt)

[StevieM]

17. If Hillary had won she would have carried in a Democratic Senate.

So we would have gotten Merrick Garland on the court. We would also have replaced Ginsberg and Breyer with Democrats.

Hillary was never going to win as long as James Comey was FBI director. Had he not interfered in the final 11 days then he also would not have interfered back in July. In fact, he probably would never have gotten the FBI involved to begin with. In which case, Hillary would not have been the same Hillary she was by Election Day.

Under those circumstances, we would likely have taken back the House. And so the fake scandals, while loudly proclaimed, would not have been able to go as far.

When the GOP took back the Congress in 2018 (due to the gerrymander in the House, and the seats that are due up in the Senate) things would have changed. They probably would have impeached her a couple of times. So the real question is not what her presidency would look like now, but rather what it would look like a year and a half from now.

I'm not sure what would have happened in 2020 under those circumstances. There are too many variables. I just hope that the Democrats would have used their control of Congress in the first two years to pass legislation that would avoid a debt default or a government shutdown in the next two years.

[Proud liberal 80]

19. You are right

If she had won the Senate would at least have been a Democratic majority (Wisc, Penn, NC, and maybe Fl). So her SCOTUS nominee would have been confirmed (assuming Schumer did the nuclear option).
I don’t know about the house though.

And yeah the 2 years leading up to 2020 would be the real hell for her.

2020 is such an important election due to it being a census year, I would have hated for the Dems to take a shellacking due to her unpopularity and “scandals”
That would be another decade of Republican gerrymandered districts.

[StevieM]

21. The question of the gerrymander is a fascinating one to contemplate.

Before I start, let me point out the Indiana and especially Missouri are better examples IMO of states that might have flipped than Florida is. Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and North Carolina are definitely ones that would have gone Democrat.

I think that it is tempting to think that in a way we are better off avoiding another assault on democracy through gerrymandering. The problem is that the Supreme Court is waging an all-out assault on democracy of their own. And that could lead to problems down the line, when a Democrat gets into the White House in 2020.

And, of course, having Trump in the White House, and treated as legitimate, will have a terrible effect on the Republican mind for many years to come. So will the fact that they won the "lock-her-up" election. It is terrifying that the GOP won an election in which they called for their political opponent to be imprisoned--and their base still genuinely wants that.

[EffieBlack]

52. The Dems shellacking was the fault of whining progressives throwing temper tantrums because the

Democratic president didn’t govern like Donald Trump, i.e., as if he represented only one narrow wing of his party and everyone else be damned.

If another ass whuppin occurred under a President Hillary Clinton, that would likely be the reason, not her supposed “unpopularity” or ginned-up “scandals.”

[Wwcd]

59. There is no other reason than this. And that group was by design.

Intentional, & the grand revolution was to seat the one in power today.

That was the actual revolution.
That's the one they chose & they can now all just admit it.

[lapucelle]

68. How does anyone that know HRC would have been "unpopular"?

How does anyone know she wouldn't have had a successful presidency? HRC knew how to get things done on a bipartisan level as a senator, and never let the Republicans roll her. She was such an effective SOS that she won Putin's lasting enmity and our allies' lasting respect. The fact that Putin was afraid of a Clinton presidency and would do anything to stop it should surprise no one.

HRC had detailed plans to start her first term with jobs-creating, much-needed infrastructure; her proposals gave everyone a seat at the table: the under and unemployed, the working class, small businesses, and the manufacturing sector. We would have seen a vigorous first 100 days, and we would already have been reaping the benefits.

We would not have lost the Supreme Court for a generation nor would we have seen 13 new federal judges (many unqualified) hand-picked by the right wing of the Republican party sitting on the bench with lifetime appointments.

The only possible upside of this mess is that Mueller has either forced into "retirement" or is going to flush out every rat in the government (including Congress) who has been willing to sell out the best interests of the country and the people in the pursuit of personal, financial, or extremist ideological goals.

[betsuni]

75. +1

[lapucelle]

79. ,,,

[betsuni]

81. You know, that "unpopularity" thing really burns my bacon.

People thought Hillary was unpopular because they were told she was, over and over, until they believed it. That's the pattern, campaigning for something people are told she's unpopular, when she has the job she does well and they forget and like her again. That's not unpopularity -- I'M unpopular and I know what it is, dammit.

[GWC58]

26. Hillary taking the popular vote was small

very small consolation. The shitshow going on right now is fucking terrible. As I type this I’m listening to Ivanka telling Peter Alexander “that’s an inappropriate question to ask the daughter blah blah blah daughter daughter.” Everyone in this admonistration is corrupt to the core!!

[Paladin]

18. Whatever the downside, we'd still be 1000% better off as a nation. (nt)

[uponit7771]

22. 2000 % better off than right now

[roamer65]

23. Non-stop Whitewater II and Benghazi.

Still would be better off, but it would be non-stop Repuke scandal mongering.

[tblue37]

66. Heck, they are STILL scandalmongering about Benghazi and her emails, even though their

but was installed in the White House.

[Cosmocat]

24. A hellscape

for the reasons you note.

Things would be even uglier right now, we are drowing in stupid with our fellow americans, but they would be even more dangerous, and likely have acted out in serious ways by now.

And, someone would have died had Hillary tried to seat at SCJ ...

Honestly, November 2016 was a bloodless coup.

But, the bill for indulging right wing lunancy WILL come at some point.

[lunamagica]

31. Yeah, I heard it all in 2000. You know what? That bill never comes. And the country is quite

dangerous right now. Racists, xenophobes, and misogynists feel vindicated, and minorities are facing a danger that hasn't been experienced since the '60s.

This wouldn't be happening under a Clinton presidency.

[Cha]

58. Hi Luna..

Sounds like some aren't even paying attention to what's happening right NOW.

[Cha]

56. we have a fucking "hellscape" now.. or

haven't you noticed?

We'd have real leaders in her admin and Hillary would VETO all the ugly stupid Greedy Shite the asshole republcons come up with.

[Cosmocat]

95. Not sure how hard it is to understand

Different types of hellscspes.

Yes, we would have decent, competenet people in administrative branch vs chaos and graft.

But, the stupid that is perfectly fine with 45 would be acting out, virulently.

[Initech]

25. We'd have real leadership.

A left leaning SCOTUS, changes in gun laws, a much better standing in the world...

[lunamagica]

35. + a million. But incredibly, it looks that to some, having Fox attack her 24/7

and trump going nonstop after her would have been too much to bear...oh yes, so much worse than what we are living now...not worth accomplishing all that...

[EffieBlack]

40. Who said it would be worse than what we have now?

[lunamagica]

47. That's how I read the OP

'Don’t get me wrong, I voted for Hillary and wish she was POTUS over Trump. Trump’s presidency is a nightmare, her presidency would have been hell for her and us "

[lunamagica]

27. Give me a break. Nothing could be worst than the nightmare we are living now

And you know what? I NEVER watch Faux. It doesn't matter to me what they cover 24/7

[ucrdem]

30. What you're forgetting is that she really WAS ready.

So all the bashing in the world would be dust in the wind because she would finally, for once, hold all the cards. It would have been Clinton 2.0 done right, minus the scandal and plus Bill and Hillary's decades of experience. She would have flattened them in other words. And that's why the rightards couldn't let her have it, and they didn't.

[lunamagica]

32. Exactly. She knew she's be facing all that, and she was ready for it.

Not Having Hillary as our president now is just a tragedy. Nothing, NOTHING good with come from this administration.

I just can't believe what I'm reading in this thread.

[Wwcd]

39. Same here. They're still trying to justify their stumping for Trump.

Remorseful but not to the point of actually saying the truth.
They, themselves, fucked this nation over.

[betsuni]

73. This right here: she really WAS ready.

Fox/Republicans would be ecstatic if she were president, it'd be 24 hours of screaming panic every day but who cares, Some people still can't get it through their heads that Hillary didn't want to be president for the personal power, it wasn't about her, it was about doing the job and she was all organized and READY.

[ehrnst]

34. There would be those on the left trying to be a thorn in her side

calling every pick for a cabinet position "corporatist" and every progressive gain she made "not good enough."

And all that would be offered as "proof" she was a poor candidate....and that any other Democrat who stood when they peed would not be experiencing this kind of obstruction from the GOP.

See also the excoriation of Diane Feinstein here on DU for the "disastrous and doomed" 1994 assault weapons ban that was wasted effort because it "prevented" legislation that would have TOTALLY changed the situation in this country for the better.

Because when it comes to blame, women get it heaped on them, even when they get the work of progress done, even when they are at the same time called out for "compromising" too much.

[EffieBlack]

41. Bam!

You are exactly right.

When women lose their elections, it’s their fault. When men lose, it’s Hillary’s or Nancy’s or Debbie’s or Diane’s fault.

Funny how that works, isn’t it?

[Wwcd]

43. + a million. Thank you

Hillary would have been a perfect President for America's & the world's future.

[uponit7771]

104. +1

[treestar]

36. What excuse could Turtle come up with for not allowing a vote?

With Obama, he could at least claim elections were coming up (ridiculous, it was nearly a year away) but would he claim with a straight face that he can't consider Hillary's picks until the next election? Maybe.

[EffieBlack]

51. Any excuse will do when you have no shame

[jmowreader]

42. If Hillary would have won, a Democratic Congress...

...would have come with her. Until Comey fucked up the election, taking back Congress was looking probable.

Okay, let’s play. How would a Hillary Clinton presidency look?

Hillary would have hewn to Bill’s adage, “government cannot do everything but there are things it must do.”

There would be no tax cut.

No turmoil in the White House.

No looming trade war.

The Secretary of HUD would be a public housing expert, not a physician. That Secretary would have “redecorated” her office by painting the walls and replacing the dead plant in the corner. No one would have thought about her office except the people affected by it. They would have said she is a good official.

The rest of her Cabinet would have been composed of experts in their fields.

She wouldn’t have golfed every weekend. I’m not sure she golfs at all.

She would have maintained the Obama-era immigration policies of eVerify raids and checkpoints within 50 miles of the borders. Those work, even if the right wing hates them.

The president wouldn’t have fired her kitchen staff because they couldn’t produce an exact copy of a Quarter Pounder or a KFC Original Recipe chicken thigh.

The stock market would have continued on in its same boring way.

The few Republicans remaining in Congress would be holding press conferences to expose how mean and shifty she is. No one would care.

The MRA movement would complain about how “we never had a president who wore lipstick before.” In response, Urban Decay Cosmetics would release a set of Photoshopped pictures of the first 44 presidents with reddened lips to demonstrate we never had a president that would have looked good in lipstick before, either.

We wouldn’t be wondering how much Top Secret information Chelsea handed to the Russians because Chelsea would not be working in the White House.

We wouldn’t be talking about building a wall.

Editorial cartoons would be a lot more boring.

Hillary wouldn’t pardon a turkey in front of the White House then take it to the kitchen an un-pardon it. The only reason Trump wouldn’t is he prefers cheeseburgers for Thanksgiving dinner.

Chelsea would have brought her kids to the White House to visit, and Pete Souza would have lots of pictures of the First Grandkids on the White House lawn.

Fox News and the right wing presence online would still be complaining but no one would be listening.

North Korea would be contained, not emboldened.

The Middle East would be reasonably stable.

And that’s as it should be.

[Wwcd]

44. If Hillary would have gotten half her Campaign Plarform through, IMAGINE how America would look toda

https://hillaryspeeches.com/tag/four-fights/

Looking through Clinton’s speeches and policy proposals, a clear plan emerges. From Clinton’s kickoff rally in June 2015 to the announcement of the proposed cap on child care costs and expanded early childhood education earlier this month, a list of Clinton’s platform speech topics and announcement dates are below:

THE FOUR FIGHTS

Economy:
Clinton outlined a number of changes that would serve to strengthen the economy including strengthening the middle class, increasing the minimum wage, providing equal pay for women, making it illegal to discriminate against LBGT workers, rewriting the tax code, and focusing on lifelong learning that will allow works to adapt to a changing workplace.

She also called for more affordable college for everyone and improving the infrastructure by creating an infrastructure bank that would sell bonds to help fund improvements roads, bridges, power grids, and broadband Internet.

She called for protecting the environment by investing in clean energy and ending the denial of climate change. All these changes, which she will continue to outline in the coming weeks, will create jobs and improve the lives of American workers.

Family:
Families have struggled since the recession and Clinton believes that more attention needs to be paid to helping families by guaranteeing paid sick days, paid family leave, pre-school and child care. She also wants to focus on the uneven incarceration polices and provide help to those suffering with mental health issues and addiction.

America’s Leadership:
America has long been the leader in the world, but for America to maintain its leadership and influence, Clinton argues that we have not only show strength in our military, but we have to create economic and diplomatic partnerships across the globe.
At the same time, we have to stand up to our adversaries and stand by our allies. We need to be better prepared against cyber attacks and provide better services to our veterans after they have served our country.

Governmental Reform:
Clinton argued that now is the time to take government out of corporate hands and back into the hands of Americans.

She called for stopping the flow of unaccountable campaign funds, undoing Citizens United, and improving government technology so it is more open to the pubic.

She also called for improvements to voting including universal registration, longer early voting periods, and ensuring that voting rights are protected despite the Supreme Court’s recent decision.

https://hillaryspeeches.com/tag/four-fights/

June 13 – “Four Fights” of Campaign
July 13 – Economic Agenda
July 27 – Climate Change
July 31 – Cuban Embargo
August 10 – College Affordability
August 18 – Drilling in the Arctic
August 26 – Agriculture
September 1 – Substance Abuse
September 8 – Campaign Finance Reform
September 9 – Nuclear Agreement with Iran
September 14 – Sexual Assault
September 22 – Prescription Drugs
September 23 – Clean Energy
October 5 – Gun Control
October 7 – Trans-Pacific Partnership
October 8 – Wall Street
November 4 – US – Israeli Relations
November 10 – Department of Veterans Affairs
November 12 – Coal Communities
November 19 – ISIS and Global Terrorism
November 20 – Middle-Class Taxes
November 22 – Caregiver Tax Credits
November 29 – Infrastructure
December 8 – Manufacturing (Part 1)
December 15 – Immigration Reform
December 15 – Anti-Terrorism
December 16 – Buffett Rule
December 20 – LGBT Rights
December 22 – Alzheimer’s Disease
January 5 – Autism
January 11 – Fair Share Surcharge
February 12 – “Breaking Every Barrier Agenda”
March 4 – Jobs
March 23 – Counterterrorism
April 1 – Manufacturing (Part 2)
April 13 – Department of Immigrant Affairs
April 13 – Environmental and Climate Justice
May 10 – Improved Child Care and Early Childhood Education
May 25 – Infrastructure Revitalization in First 100 Days
May 31 – Plan to Assist Military Families
June 2 – Foreign Policy
June 13 – Reduction of Gun Violence
June 24 – Immigration Reform
June 25 – Democratic National Committee Platform
June 28 – Empowering Young People to be Entrepreneurs
June 29 – Initiative on Technology and Innovation
July 6 – Debt-Free College
July 7 – Protections for Small Businesses
July 9 – Universal Health Care

[lunamagica]

45. And I still can't get over it...over what could have been

[Wwcd]

49. I know. Look at that list of goals for America. Its truly baffling why any one would choose Trump .

"Money & Media" & the gullibility of fools.

[jmowreader]

48. As opposed to Trumps Treuhand plan for remaking the government

The Treuhandanstalt was the government agency set up to de-governmentize the East German economy, in which the government owned all the corporations. (If you see a German-made product from the Cold War era, look for the letters VEB. It means People’s Owned Enterprise, and the East German government owned the company.) The Treuhand, which was crooked as a dog’s hind leg, sold off any company they could and closed the rest.

Trump wants to do the same to the US government.

[Wwcd]

50. Exactly. And so many fools bought the lies told, that handed Trump the keys to that door.

America was sold out by idiots.

[jmowreader]

53. The most disgusting part of the whole thing...

A lot of them think Trump is a great president because he's going to make sure the transgender people use the "right bathroom." Never mind that the world is going to hell in a handbasket thanks to Trump, someone you've never seen before who lives two thousand miles from you is going to pee where you want them to, so all is right with the world.

[Cha]

54. Well aren't you picking all the shite and NONE

of the great things that would be happening.

Hillary would VETO all their SHIT.. Ever heard of VETO?

[Wwcd]

61. Thank you Cha. Regurgitating the RW anti Hillary bs just as Trump is showing us

..the bitter pill they all swallowed.

This is how they justify their stupidity & complicity in selling out our Country
But..but..but...she couldn't have done anything anyway.

It some pathetic remorse for the "revolution" that went pffft as soon as Trump was in the WH.

There never was a "revolution". It was a ruse for "Money & Media" & it fell to shit as soon as they got what they wanted.

[Cha]

63. I know.. it really lacks vision

and common sense. Just miring themselves in a little puddle of negativity.

It's ridiculous. As if we didn't have it bad enough.. along comes this ******* NONSENSE.

[Me.]

67. All I Know Is This

aside from one fact, we don't know what would've happened. What we do know is she would've been a tremendous president and he isn't.

[Cha]

69. For one very Important Issue.. that

the OP neglects to mention..

We wouldn't have been taken over by the Russians and been at their beck and call.

We would have actual caring human beings in her Cabinet.. Hillary would have seen to that.

Whatever came her way.. Hillary would have handled it with her strength and tenacity.

Link to tweet

Booom! Me!

[Me.]

70. More Basic True Facts

[Wwcd]

72. True facts. Something so many flat out ignored & worked so hard to keep silenced

They wanted Trump & the world we have now.

They must be satisfied with their choice.

[Me.]

86. As Is Said

THEY got the government they deserved so they must be

not so the rest of us, those who knew * would be the disaster he turned out to be and now Comrade Trump traitor extraordinaire

[Wwcd]

71. Most beautiful classy pic of our Madam President. The choice of the American people.

Thank you for this.

[Cha]

74. "The People's President" as

ehrnst calls her. I like that..

And, we wouldn't have had this.. as the OP fails to mention..

I think this sums up accurately what we got, thanks to the Russian hackers, the m$m, and whatever other idiots joined in to make this happen..

Pure madness: Dark days inside the White House as Trump shocks and rages

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142003583#top

Wwcd!

[SidDithers]

77. Pretty, pretty, pretty good...

Sid

[Cha]

82. It would have been Gorgeous!

I don't get the handwringing.. if the Russians hadn't stolen the Presidency from Hillary and Us.

Instead we get this..

Link to tweet

Pure madness: Dark days inside the White House as Trump shocks and rages

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142003583#top

[betsuni]

80. It would be "Thanks, Hillary" instead of "Thanks, Obama."

Everyone would be very happy complaining all the time while things get done behind the scenes and America keeps chugging along without any unnecessary wars/economic disasters/corruption, etc. (you know, the dreaded "status quo" ).

[Turbineguy]

83. The repubs would be fighting her tooth and nail.

We would likely be on our fourth impeachment trial.

[brooklynite]

84. Well, some DU folks would be complaining that she wasnt governing like a real Democrat...

[Gothmog]

85. We would not be worried about the SCOTUS or the repeal of the ACA

[Eliot Rosewater]

99. It would look fantastic, brilliant, wonderful. What a weird question.

[bitterross]

102. Frankly, I think things would be pretty bad for her. They would make it impossible for her to govern

The GOP would be fighting her on every front.
They would open up tons of investigations that would lead to some ousters of administration members over very minor infractions. Which would, of course, be blown way out of proportion. Every idiot that voted for Trump would be parroting FAUX noise about what a crook she is. They would be talking impeachment 24-7 over at FAUX noise.

Hillary, herself, is actually way better off having lost. I say that with great sadness for the rest of us.

I think she, and her administration, would be doing good things for the people. But it would be one nightmare of a daily fight after another.

[budkin]

105. Endless investigations and obstruction

I doubt if she could accomplish even one thing.

[NastyRiffraff]

108. I think MOST of us can agree

it would be, at a minimum, it would be VASTLY better than what we have in the WH now.

But I firmly believe it would be better than that. Hillary was arguably one of the most qualified people ever to run for president of the U.S. A fair election, as someone said, would have given us Democratic control at least of the Senate. But even with an all-Republican Congress, she would have found a way to work with some of them. Not the radicals, of course, not the Nunes and the Cruzes, but many of the so-called moderates moved right to accommodate Trump and may have been more amenable to compromise.

Our Russian "problem" would have been an enraged Putin (he HATED Hillary), but that's a hell of a lot better than a smug Putin smirking over his hold over the U.S. president.

There are many other problems that would not have existed, of course, including alienating our allies and scaring the bejesus out of most of the world. But we would have had a strong, smart president committed to the good of the country and its people, and to being an engaged leader in the world. She would have made mistakes, yes; every president has. But we wouldn't be enduring the embarrassment of having a "president" who constantly lies, who has zero impulse control, who lashes out when he doesn't get his way.

We would have had, in short. a President of the United States we could be proud of.