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How Would A Clinton Presidency Look Right Now? (Original Post) McCamy Taylor Mar 2018 OP
It would be a beautiful thing! democratisphere Mar 2018 #1
The GOP would being trying to impeachment her chuckstevens Mar 2018 #2
No... just a statement. Cha Mar 2018 #25
Thank you Cha, I needed that! bettyellen Mar 2018 #28
Damn, bettyellen.. What's with all Cha Mar 2018 #31
Great post, Cha, spot on! lunamagica Mar 2018 #36
Gracias, Luna! AND... Cha Mar 2018 #37
So do I, Cha, so do I... lunamagica Mar 2018 #38
Pretty much like Obama's did, I think. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #3
There would be plenty of whining and moaning, fear not DFW Mar 2018 #6
Gorsuch would not be sitting on our Supreme Court & RBGinsburg could consider retirement Wwcd Mar 2018 #11
Had Republicans kept the Senate, they likely would have maintained the same judicial blockade tritsofme Mar 2018 #13
Would have been nice to have had a shot at it ! Wwcd Mar 2018 #14
It would have been a hard thing to do. TeamPooka Mar 2018 #33
It would look mighty fine indeed! CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2018 #4
We'd be discussing a genuine move towards progress, success for America, its people & the world. Wwcd Mar 2018 #5
"never be recovered." --- That's the saddest and most infuriating thing of all. NurseJackie Mar 2018 #7
Who dies in the revolution? Not the well paid actors who love theater including street. McCamy Taylor Mar 2018 #8
Yup & guess what else..there never was a revolution Wwcd Mar 2018 #9
Shes been kinda quiet ismnotwasm Mar 2018 #10
people of her ilk will have a problem with any Democratic candidate in the future. TeamPooka Mar 2018 #34
It would be 24/7 about her emails, but it would be a lot safer for all of us. shockey80 Mar 2018 #12
Fairness Doctrine, Citizen's United.... Wwcd Mar 2018 #15
Her emails.. Cha Mar 2018 #26
Impeachment hearings would be underway if not over. Vinca Mar 2018 #16
That's a hypothetical. With an honest election of HRC Wwcd Mar 2018 #17
Please tell me where you bought your rose colored glasses. Vinca Mar 2018 #19
It's weird.. these people who are Cha Mar 2018 #29
Good heavens. I'm not saying Hillary would be impeached because she should be impeached. Vinca Mar 2018 #42
Nobody's thinking that.. Cha Mar 2018 #27
Somehow you're interpreting my post as anti-Hillary which it is not. Vinca Mar 2018 #43
I would answer this OP thusly: superpatriotman Mar 2018 #18
With that one should surmise that there was no point in electing HRC Wwcd Mar 2018 #20
So? You can't even come up with any Cha Mar 2018 #35
Total gridlock jalan48 Mar 2018 #21
Hillary would have VETOED the Cha Mar 2018 #30
Pretty much like an Al Gore Presidency AwakeAtLast Mar 2018 #22
Nonstop investigations yes edhopper Mar 2018 #23
Republican Congress Would File Articles Of Impeachment Weekly ChoppinBroccoli Mar 2018 #24
GOPers would be raising cain, as would a lot of Democrats who would not have seen trump Hoyt Mar 2018 #32
Imaginary misanthrope Mar 2018 #39
Millions of people would be able to sleep at night, not living in fear like they currently are lunamagica Mar 2018 #40
Well, Glamrock Mar 2018 #41
 

chuckstevens

(1,201 posts)
2. The GOP would being trying to impeachment her
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:02 PM
Mar 2018

The Democrats would be trying to address college debt and expand Obamacare.

Meanwhile, the GOP would be throwing pasta to the wall hoping something, anything would stick.

Sean Hannity would being trying to show how Hillary made all Bengahzi decisions herself and Rush and Alex Jones would have uncovered a "secret plan" to castrate all men in the US, AFTER all the guns were confiscated.

Any more questions?

Cha

(297,165 posts)
25. No... just a statement.
Sun Mar 4, 2018, 01:07 AM
Mar 2018

You left out a whole hellava lot.

We would have real caring Human Beings in Cabinet posts and throughout her Admin.

Hillary would have VETOED all people killing shite from ryan and mmconnell.

We wouldn't be having this craziness forced on our country.. and the Planet.



Pure madness: Dark days inside the White House as Trump shocks and rages

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142003583#top


Cha

(297,165 posts)
31. Damn, bettyellen.. What's with all
Sun Mar 4, 2018, 01:24 AM
Mar 2018

these people going straight to the hangwringing about what the pubs would do if the election hadn't been stolen from us and Hillary?

They do what they do.. ALWAYS.

We carrying and move forward.. best we can. President Obama got a LOT Accomplished.. and Hillary would NOT be systematically trying to UNDO IT.

Sorry, it pissed me off.

Thank you, bettyellen

Cha

(297,165 posts)
37. Gracias, Luna! AND...
Sun Mar 4, 2018, 01:55 AM
Mar 2018

Hillary's Admin would NOT be Undoing all of President Obama's Accomplishments!

Damn I wish we had President Hillary!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
3. Pretty much like Obama's did, I think.
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:07 PM
Mar 2018

The GOPers in Congress would try to block everything she did and probably would have their articles of impeachment ready to go. On the other hand, we'd still have DACA, corporations wouldn't be paying lower taxes than actual people, Muslims wouldn't be prohibited from entering the country, the West Wing would run smoothly, Australia, Canada, Mexico and Germany would still be allies, we'd have a fully-staffed State Department and nobody would be threatening to blow up North Korea, the EPA would be doing its job, the head of HUD wouldn't be ordering $31K tables for his office, all cabinet secretaries would be people who were actually qualified for their jobs, Chelsea's husband wouldn't be an incompetent Secretary of Everything, the national parks wouldn't be parted out to developers, current and former campaign and WH staff wouldn't be under investigation or already indicted or pleading guilty, and something would actually be getting done to prevent Russia from interfering in any more of our elections.

DFW

(54,365 posts)
6. There would be plenty of whining and moaning, fear not
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:13 PM
Mar 2018

Maybe not to the point of a "piece of shit used car saleswoman," but in all likelihood plenty of comments close to that.

On the other hand, few of that kind of comment would find much resonance or truth to it, as opposed to today.

Another thing: the intelligence community would be just that, instead of a dejected team of benched A list players.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
11. Gorsuch would not be sitting on our Supreme Court & RBGinsburg could consider retirement
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:38 PM
Mar 2018

knowing her SC chair would be passed on to a like minded judge.

The 100's of judge appointments around the country would be in reasonable & fair hands, not up to Trump to decide.

tritsofme

(17,376 posts)
13. Had Republicans kept the Senate, they likely would have maintained the same judicial blockade
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:46 PM
Mar 2018

that they imposed on President Obama in his last two years. I highly doubt the Scalia vacancy would be filled by this point in a Clinton presidency.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
14. Would have been nice to have had a shot at it !
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 02:07 PM
Mar 2018

That's a hypothetical that no one can ever answer.
We will never know. Appointments would have never been so severe as they are now.
The likes of Pruitt & DeVos would not be our reality.


 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
5. We'd be discussing a genuine move towards progress, success for America, its people & the world.
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:09 PM
Mar 2018

What a big stupid ignorant failure that some preferred what we have today.
That they carelessly chose to lay our appoaching bleak future on our children & coming generations to figure out how to fix the shithole they were left with.
Careless, thoughtless, selfish & ignorance chose Donald Trump.

There was NO good reason not to choose Hillary over the madness of king Trump.

They bought the lies like eternal fools & the cost to this country will never be recovered.


NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
7. "never be recovered." --- That's the saddest and most infuriating thing of all.
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:16 PM
Mar 2018
They bought the lies like eternal fools & the cost to this country will never be recovered.
That's correct. That's the saddest and most infuriating thing of all.

I'll never get over the fact that what's happening now is EXACTLY what people like Susan Sarandon WANTED TO HAPPEN!! Sarandon wanted it AND people who think like her wanted it!

Just LOOK at how giddy and animated she is in this clip... she can barely contain her excitement at the horrors that await us.


I'll never forgive her. Susan Sarandon (and those Stein voters who think like her) can FUCK OFF!

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
8. Who dies in the revolution? Not the well paid actors who love theater including street.
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:25 PM
Mar 2018

The children, the elderly, the sick, the poor die. And the soldiers. Revolutions are not pretty. We should not be hoping for them.

Wake up and smell the reality.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
9. Yup & guess what else..there never was a revolution
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:30 PM
Mar 2018

There was "Money & Media"

."Money & Media"

That is what all the drum beating rah rah rah-ing was really for.
"Money & Media" for themselves. Not for any of us.

The f'ing Revolution was a big fat lie that fell to shit as soon as Hillary Clinton was NOT our Leader.

The revolution is now over.
Happy??!!

TeamPooka

(24,221 posts)
34. people of her ilk will have a problem with any Democratic candidate in the future.
Sun Mar 4, 2018, 01:27 AM
Mar 2018

they are in it to spoil the soup, not make sure it's good and there's enough for everyone.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
15. Fairness Doctrine, Citizen's United....
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 02:17 PM
Mar 2018

As well as 2018 seats to assist her policy positions.

But but ..the revolution!
What the f happened to that!
Pffft.

The only revolution happening is on the shoulders, once again, of the Democratic Party's strength in unseating the bullshit of 2016.

Once again its the Democratic Party that will step up and clean up the mess of the failures of ignorance & greed.

It happened with Clinton after Bush, Obama after Bush & here we are again.

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
16. Impeachment hearings would be underway if not over.
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 02:20 PM
Mar 2018

You think Ryan and McConnell would have suddenly become statesmen?

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
17. That's a hypothetical. With an honest election of HRC
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 02:27 PM
Mar 2018

would also have come more seats in the Senate & House to support her.
That is also a fair hypothetical.
Without the outliers that gave us Trump, there also would have been a more even power base to support her as President.

Cha

(297,165 posts)
29. It's weird.. these people who are
Sun Mar 4, 2018, 01:16 AM
Mar 2018

coming up with all the negative shite the gd repubs would be doing with Hillary in her rightful place.

Like they can't think of all the positive aspects if the Russians hadn't stolen the election for trump, along with all the other idiots who assisted getting him rigged in.

Hillary would not be UNDOING what President Obama Accomplished.

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
42. Good heavens. I'm not saying Hillary would be impeached because she should be impeached.
Sun Mar 4, 2018, 08:54 AM
Mar 2018

Hillary would have been a wonderful president and it's fine to speculate about all the great things she would have done. The truth is that if Republicans still held the Congress and Hillary was POTUS - a real possibility - it would be investigation after investigation after investigation until there was an impeachment. That's what Republicans live for. Jeez, they're still talking about her emails on Fox as of last week. The whole election and its aftermath is nothing but a big lose, lose, lose, lose, lose unless somehow the Democrats could have won at least the House or Senate.

Cha

(297,165 posts)
27. Nobody's thinking that..
Sun Mar 4, 2018, 01:12 AM
Mar 2018

They do what they do.. We carry on doing what we do.

There would be actual Caring Human Beings in her Cabinet Posts, and throughout her Admin.

She would VETO all the killing People proposals from ryan and mmconnell.

Hillary would NOT be UNDOING what President Obama Accomplished.


Vinca

(50,269 posts)
43. Somehow you're interpreting my post as anti-Hillary which it is not.
Sun Mar 4, 2018, 08:56 AM
Mar 2018

See my response to another poster in reply #42.

superpatriotman

(6,247 posts)
18. I would answer this OP thusly:
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 02:27 PM
Mar 2018

Uranium investigation. Benghazi investigation. Emails investigation. Clinton Foundation investigation. Abedin/Weiner investigation. Lynch investigation. Comey investigation. Podesta investigation. Pizzeria investigation. DNC investigation. Rose Law investigation. People She knew who are now dead investigation. Etc.

Not meant to be disruptive, I truly believe this.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
20. With that one should surmise that there was no point in electing HRC
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 02:39 PM
Mar 2018

Do you still not realize the what lengths the RW took to place a stupid man in power?

Had people been a bit more aware of what was taking place in front of there very eyes, and not buying into the Money & Media indulgence in 2016, we would not be sitting in this shithole.

She didn't fail us, the nation of fools did.

Cha

(297,165 posts)
35. So? You can't even come up with any
Sun Mar 4, 2018, 01:33 AM
Mar 2018

Positive Aspects if the election hadn't been stolen by the Russians for the pervert?

Let me help you out..

There would be actual Caring Human Beings in her Cabinet Posts, and throughout her Admin.

She would VETO all the killing People proposals from ryan and mmconnell. Including the TAX CUTS for Billionaires.

Hillary would NOT be UNDOING what President Obama Accomplished.

Our Planet would have a Chance.


Cha

(297,165 posts)
30. Hillary would have VETOED the
Sun Mar 4, 2018, 01:19 AM
Mar 2018

the Tax Cuts, and all the other people killing aspects, if the Russians hadn't stolen the election for trump, along with all the idiots who helped get him rigged in.

Hillary would not be UNDOING what President Obama Accomplished.

edhopper

(33,575 posts)
23. Nonstop investigations yes
Sun Mar 4, 2018, 12:44 AM
Mar 2018

BUT, no massive tax cuts, a Justice Dept. that works for the people, an EPA that protects the environment, a State Dept that works on diplomacy and with our Allies, a government dealing with Climate Change, Garland or someone more liberal on the Court....


Need I go on?

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,784 posts)
24. Republican Congress Would File Articles Of Impeachment Weekly
Sun Mar 4, 2018, 01:00 AM
Mar 2018

This week, President Clinton rode a bus, and while it was in motion, she talked to the driver. We also have it on good authority that SEVERAL TIMES this week, President Clinton lathered, rinsed, and then blatantly REFUSED to repeat. Finally, when sending out mail, President Clinton placed her items in the mailbox, closed it, and didn't even bother to jiggle the handle. We demand full investigations into all of these impeachable offenses.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
32. GOPers would be raising cain, as would a lot of Democrats who would not have seen trump
Sun Mar 4, 2018, 01:24 AM
Mar 2018

destroying the country to realize just how good Clinton would have been.

misanthrope

(7,411 posts)
39. Imaginary
Sun Mar 4, 2018, 02:01 AM
Mar 2018

Think about the future and direct energy in that direction. There's plenty to be concerned with in those regards.

Glamrock

(11,795 posts)
41. Well,
Sun Mar 4, 2018, 05:22 AM
Mar 2018

First of all:
DACA still in place
No ridiculous tax bill
A strong state department.
Still part of Paris Accord.
TPP passed as is with all corporate giveaways already agreed to.
Obamacare maintained or strengthened.
Negotiations with N. Korea.

Additionally:
Massive gun sales.
Investigations into Benghazi.
Investigations into Clinton Foundation.
Investigations into emails.
Investigations into private server.
Possible/probable articles of impeachment. Based on any of the above.
8 justices on supreme court.
Record number of blocked judicial appointments.
Democratic Party losing more seats in 2018.

And most importantly:
A continuation of the lack of interest by the voting public that has been in place from 2010 through the current abortion in the White House.

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