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RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 02:23 PM Mar 2018

Oh, brother - American mercenaries are torturing' Saudi elite rounded up by new crown prince

I'd wonder how Jared and Trump feel about this if they had any character, integrity or compassion. For all I know, it was heir idea.


EXCLUSIVE: 'American mercenaries are torturing' Saudi elite rounded up by new crown prince - and billionaire Prince Alwaleed was hung upside down 'just to send a message'

* American mercenaries are torturing' Saudi elite rounded up by new crown princeSource in Saudi Arabia says American private security contractors are carrying out'interrogations' on princes and billionaires arrested in crackdown
* Detained members of Saudi elite have been hung by their feet and beaten by interrogates, source says
* Among those hung upside down are Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, an investor worth at least $7 billion who is being held at Riyadh's Ritz Carlton
* Arrests were ordered three weeks ago by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman
Source claims mercenaries are from 'Blackwater', a claim also made by Lebanese president
* But its successor firm denies it has any operations in Saudi Arabia whatsoever and says its staff abide by U.S. law
* Americans who commit torture abroad can be jailed for up to 20 years

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5108651/American-mercenaries-torturing-Saudi-princes.html#ixzz58iA9tBPY

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Oh, brother - American mercenaries are torturing' Saudi elite rounded up by new crown prince (Original Post) RandomAccess Mar 2018 OP
Anyone see Erik the Prince? malaise Mar 2018 #1
Blackwater does not exist anymore under that name... dixiegrrrrl Mar 2018 #19
Wasn't Jarad schmoozing with the Crown Prince not that long ago? Think he was there a week. Vinca Mar 2018 #2
He surely was. They had a pajama party and stayed up until 4am because they're such good buddies. hedda_foil Mar 2018 #5
Who benefits from these kind of 'source' stories? superpatriotman Mar 2018 #3
So Why Doesn't He Give Jared The money He Needs? Me. Mar 2018 #4
That prince is too smart to get involved with Kushner's boondoggle, as is most everyone else brush Mar 2018 #7
The Prince Is Already Involved. Me. Mar 2018 #11
They haven't paid him yet, even though as you outlined so well the Qatar v Saudi... brush Mar 2018 #12
Got Rolled Is The Perfect Description Me. Mar 2018 #14
I know exactly what is the crown princes goal. roamer65 Mar 2018 #6
I bet The Don wishes he could smack bin Talal around himself ProudLib72 Mar 2018 #8
sounds like a lot of bullshit to me. Mosby Mar 2018 #9
The inevitable result of government run as a business. Our military is full of disloyal mercs. Oneironaut Mar 2018 #10
How are they getting away with this? Not that I am particularly concerned with smirkymonkey Mar 2018 #13
...at the Ritz-Carlton brooklynite Mar 2018 #15
That is quite the contradiction Lee-Lee Mar 2018 #20
And carry on wars without Congressional approval... kentuck Mar 2018 #16
3 month old Daily Mail article. sl8 Mar 2018 #17
That prince has put a mighty big target on his back, those guys will never forget...... sunonmars Mar 2018 #18

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
19. Blackwater does not exist anymore under that name...
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 06:59 PM
Mar 2018

It has gone thru 2 more name changes.

Might be a mercenary group IS involved, but the use of the name lessens credence to whoever identified it.
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Vinca

(50,250 posts)
2. Wasn't Jarad schmoozing with the Crown Prince not that long ago? Think he was there a week.
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 02:27 PM
Mar 2018

That would make sense re Blackwater.

superpatriotman

(6,247 posts)
3. Who benefits from these kind of 'source' stories?
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 02:32 PM
Mar 2018

Though I'm sure many extremist misogynist billionaires may deserve to be hung by their feet, the sourcing is suspect and should be treated as such.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
4. So Why Doesn't He Give Jared The money He Needs?
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 03:01 PM
Mar 2018

since they're so close. As for milking a country, should Comrade Trump be hung by his heels?

brush

(53,759 posts)
7. That prince is too smart to get involved with Kushner's boondoggle, as is most everyone else
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 04:41 PM
Mar 2018

I'm sure Kushner tried to get him to cough up some big bucks as he owes 1.2 B on 666 5th Ave.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
11. The Prince Is Already Involved.
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 05:25 PM
Mar 2018

First off, what were those genius’ thinking, paying that for a building which was only half filled at the purchase? So yes, let them go broke, especially as the suspicion is that Jared has been selling secrets for cash. As for the Prince, he and Jared are supposedly such BFFs, staying up to 4 am each night plotting. And don’t think for a minute the Prince didn’t love the blockade of Qatar. And... supposedly, mercenaries have been brought in to torture the arrested princes. Again, supposedly, an offshoot of Blackwater. And is Erik Prince, he who wants to set up a private intelligence army in the pic somewhere. Comrade Trump says those arrests are a good thing as the arrested men have been milking their country for years. (irony alert). So the point of all this is, there’s a lot of cross-referencing between the WH/SA so why didn’t they give Jared the money. And why has SA let it be known they have the goods on him (one of the 4 countries who say they have been using him) Assets usually get paid.

brush

(53,759 posts)
12. They haven't paid him yet, even though as you outlined so well the Qatar v Saudi...
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 05:37 PM
Mar 2018

imbroglio, Kushner still owes the 1.2 B on the over-priced building in Manhattan.

Seems the Saudi prince pegged Kushner for the inexperienced mark he is. He got the Qatar blockade without bailing Kushner out for just a couple of late night smooze fests—at least Kushner thought he was the one doing the smoozing.

The Saudi crown prince even has somehow even finagled mercs from that other Prince (Eric Prince) to torture and house arrest rival Saudi royals.

Yep, looks like Jared and his associates got rolled into doing dirty work for the ruling Saudi prince.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
6. I know exactly what is the crown princes goal.
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 04:33 PM
Mar 2018

This is to install fear in the Wahhabis who backed and financed IS. The Saudi royal family is scared of a overthrow by those elements.

IS backing has been a disaster for them and now they fear the blowback.

Oneironaut

(5,491 posts)
10. The inevitable result of government run as a business. Our military is full of disloyal mercs.
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 05:20 PM
Mar 2018

They have no allegiance to this country - they’d turn on us in a second if the cash was good. The only saving grace is that America has the deepest pockets (for now).

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
13. How are they getting away with this? Not that I am particularly concerned with
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 05:41 PM
Mar 2018

Saudi elites, but this does not sound like a very bright idea and will likely come back on us. In some way, I kind of wish another country would march in here and do the same to our "elites" (Kochs, Mercers, all republicans in power).

kentuck

(111,072 posts)
16. And carry on wars without Congressional approval...
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 06:47 PM
Mar 2018

...not even Congressional knowledge. In other words, in secret. Deep secret. Who are they working for, without the knowledge of our Congress??

sl8

(13,719 posts)
17. 3 month old Daily Mail article.
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 06:47 PM
Mar 2018

Has anyone seen any confirmation from a more recent or more credible source?

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
18. That prince has put a mighty big target on his back, those guys will never forget......
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 06:55 PM
Mar 2018

Things can change very quickly in Saudi....its a nest of vipers who play Game of Thrones for real.

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