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By MIKE PESCA at Slate
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/03/nra-spokeswoman-dana-loesch-is-hypocritical-in-her-media-criticism.html
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But its because of one thing: the Bataclan theater assault. That was the act of international terrorism, which used guns, but it wasnt exactly relevant to the debate of civilian access to firearms. You take out that one gigantic outlier terrorist attack in the time frame that Loesch mentioned, and you have four dead in France to 160 dead in the U.S. But a singular atypical incident is a horrible rebuttal to George Stephanopoulos premise, which was that no country in the world has these attacks with the frequency or the intensity of the United States. So that assertion was full of flaws, but Loesch did speak rapidly and confidently. She seemed to answer the questions Stephanopoulos was asking. I bet the NRA was proud of its spokeswoman at that moment.
I was wondering why she would cite that cherry-picked figure, which wasnt too relevant for what he was asking. I found that the original assertion was created and spread by the Crime Prevention Research Center, whose president and founder is John Lott. John Lott has a doctorate in economics. Hes frequently cited by gun enthusiasts for his studies, which back up their worldview. But his studies also cant be duplicated and are indeed often heavily rebutted by established experts who are affiliated with major universities. Lott wrote a book called More Guns, Less Crime that researchers frequently fault. Why do researchers find fault with his findings? Because they cant find his findings. Lott has an answer to why the researchers fault him. It was in his next book, The Bias Against Guns.
So whos right? All the good researchersin 15 or 30 studies, depending on how you count themfind fewer guns, less crime. In 2015, using stats from the FBI and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, researchers at Bostons Childrens Hospital at Harvard found that firearm assaults were 6.8 times more common in the states with the most guns versus in the states with the least.
In 2013, Boston Universitys School of Public Health found that if you control for multiple variables, a 1 percent increase in gun ownership in a state correlates with a 0.9 percent rise in firearm homicides. But still, Lotts rhetoric animates the pro-NRA crowd, Loesch, and also Ben Shapiro, who said on Tuesday: This 1-to-1 correlation the left attempts to draw between the number of guns in particular society and the level of murder in a particular society just does not hold. Thats particularly true for rifles.
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Turbineguy
(37,313 posts)"An armed society is a polite society". He then explained how polite inmates were while in prison. If somebody accidentally bumped in to you, they would apologize profusely, so that there could be no doubt that it was an accident, and not on purpose. A shove on purpose could get you shivved.
After that I noticed Americans were always going around apologizing far more than the situation seemed to demand.
Alexandr Solzhenitsyn wrote about how the Gulag culture seeped into Russian society.
When I think about important events that shaped history, especially in a negative way, the Tylenol Poisonings come to mind. A profound loss of trust came out of that.
Gun cultists are influencing American society and in a very negative way. It's a bit like when you are driving, you don't get carsick, but your passengers do.
applegrove
(118,600 posts)steeped into the NRA mind games. Thank god for them.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,841 posts)I'm under the impression that lots of prisons have a lot less than polite inmates.