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The Powers That Be want him out. (Original Post) PCIntern Mar 2018 OP
works for me nt COLGATE4 Mar 2018 #1
That would be a step forward. Chemisse Mar 2018 #2
The GOP is in on the scam. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2018 #3
Whistling Dixie maxsolomon Mar 2018 #4
I get a fax every morning from PCIntern Mar 2018 #5
Is Ovaltine code for Kool-Aid? lame54 Mar 2018 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Initech Mar 2018 #6
Are you sure it was a failure? haele Mar 2018 #7
how so? Skittles Mar 2018 #11
Succeeding beyond his wildest dreams. Orsino Mar 2018 #19
Trump resigning and Pence taking over might... Whiskeytide Mar 2018 #8
+1, and Pence will quietly enact laws to make women bury fetus's uponit7771 Mar 2018 #10
Exactly EffieBlack Mar 2018 #13
You're going to get your wish. MoonRiver Mar 2018 #16
The powers that be supposedly didnt want him to get the nomination either EffieBlack Mar 2018 #12
Yes. I think about that too. How 'powerful' can they be, if they let this fucker happen. poboy2 Mar 2018 #14
Yup - they couldnt stop a reality show star from getting their partys nomination EffieBlack Mar 2018 #15
There are some few non-partisan conspiracists who try to maintain poboy2 Mar 2018 #17
Bingo! EffieBlack Mar 2018 #18
Well the PTB better order their political party and propaganda organs workinclasszero Mar 2018 #20
Right u are. nt PCIntern Mar 2018 #21

Chemisse

(30,802 posts)
2. That would be a step forward.
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 03:15 PM
Mar 2018

My biggest fear is that Mueller will come out with the shocking truth - and the GOP will shrug its collective shoulder.

Trump is destroying our country and he needs to be pulled out of there. All intelligent people should be able to agree on that.

PCIntern

(25,459 posts)
5. I get a fax every morning from
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 04:49 PM
Mar 2018

TPTB Enterprises in Langley. I decode it with my Little Orphan Annie ring.

Response to PCIntern (Original post)

haele

(12,629 posts)
7. Are you sure it was a failure?
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 05:08 PM
Mar 2018

The country is even more balkanized, pretty near all our forms of communicating information - including social media, has been discredited - our economy is being seriously compromised, and no one really knows who to trust.

I'd say that even if Putin didn't get his immediate wish list items checked off, he's basically brought this country to its knees, making the U.S. pretty much politically isolated on the world stage for a long enough time that he can set his empire up.

Haele

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
19. Succeeding beyond his wildest dreams.
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 02:22 PM
Mar 2018

The US is weakened and increasingly isolated from its allies.

Whiskeytide

(4,459 posts)
8. Trump resigning and Pence taking over might...
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 05:41 PM
Mar 2018

... be counter-productive to our goals at this point. Right now the White House is about as dysfunctional as it can be. The Meuller Investigation is gaining steam and Tump and his inner circle look about as guilty as they can look. Democrats are winning elections they shouldn’t be winning - and I believe Trump is galvanizing that resistance and resolve. His “Presidenting” style is a National embarrassment - Hell, a global embarrassment. He’s failing to accomplish much that can’t be walked back -or at least ameliorated - if congress flips in November.

If Pence takes over, not a single policy change will occur. But the heat will be taken off substantially. The Meuller probe will be neutered (Pence will fire Sessions and install a legitimate AG with an air of respectability, and the probe will be gradually suffocated and sent to the back burner). Pence will put a “lip service” investigation on the Russian attack, he’ll hire a “no drama” staff, and he’ll take the country in a theocratic direction which will piss off progressives but will not help us GOTV like Trump’s madness. It’s the gift that keeps on giving - at the polls anyway. Pence will seem tame and “republican as usual” by comparison. The appearance or normalcy will return.

I understand Trump has to go. But keeping up this insanity until at least the mid-terms is - as much as I hate to say it - probably a winning scenario for us. I’ve said before that the only thing worse than a dysfunctional republican administration is a functional republican administration. Jmtc.


 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
13. Exactly
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 09:03 AM
Mar 2018

Impeachment and removal could have some dire unintended consequences.

Dems need to be smart about this and not jump into the briarpatch.

 

poboy2

(2,078 posts)
14. Yes. I think about that too. How 'powerful' can they be, if they let this fucker happen.
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 09:07 AM
Mar 2018

And now 'they' are going to use that same power to oust him, we hope.

Existential threat.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
15. Yup - they couldnt stop a reality show star from getting their partys nomination
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 10:18 AM
Mar 2018

But now they’re going to take down a rogue president?

Riiight ...

 

poboy2

(2,078 posts)
17. There are some few non-partisan conspiracists who try to maintain
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 11:25 AM
Mar 2018

that even this MUST somehow be what TPTB intended. They try to figure out what it portends and how it fits in some plan.
Maybe the mass extermination is about to happen. The culling.

If anything the fact Trump was allowed to happen is the strongest case yet for there being no world organizing PTB -in my opinion.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
18. Bingo!
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 12:52 PM
Mar 2018

You've identified one of the problems with conspiracy theories. They don't require rules or logic and can be shaped to fit just about any scenario. And if that doesn't work, the conspiracy theorists just argue that the conspiracists WANTED it to look that way to throw you off the scent.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
20. Well the PTB better order their political party and propaganda organs
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 02:35 PM
Mar 2018

like Fox and Hate radio to take him down then. I sure don't see any evidence of that happening, do you?

You may be right but Trump is a Russian asset. He answers to one person only. That person is Vladimir Putin.

Trump ain't goin nowhere without his approval. The PTB should have thought this carnival barker con man for President thing through before they backed him huh?

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