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TexasTowelie

(112,102 posts)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 11:30 PM Mar 2018

Should Billy Graham have a national holiday? 73,000 people and counting say yes.

A heavy-equipment operator from North Carolina is willing to move heaven and earth to get a national holiday declared in honor of the Rev. Billy Graham.

“Mr. Graham preached the Gospel to more people in live audiences than anyone else in history – nearly 215 million people in more than 185 countries and territories,” Kyle Siler of Trinity wrote on change.org, where he launched a petition drive a week ago.

The petition is one of several along the same lines, but only Siler’s has gained significant traction, gathering more than 73,000 signatures by Monday afternoon and climbing at a rate of more than 10 per minute.

Siler, 41, said Monday he never attended one of Graham’s crusades, but his grandfather was a huge fan of the Charlotte-born preacher who died Feb. 21.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/living/religion/article203612109.html

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Should Billy Graham have a national holiday? 73,000 people and counting say yes. (Original Post) TexasTowelie Mar 2018 OP
No way!! n/t GP6971 Mar 2018 #1
73K is not a whole lotta people - and the answer is NO!!!! NRaleighLiberal Mar 2018 #2
No. Nt uppityperson Mar 2018 #3
NO, he had nothing to add to the country. sinkingfeeling Mar 2018 #4
Hell NO! democratisphere Mar 2018 #5
No. Absolutely not. badhair77 Mar 2018 #6
NO JI7 Mar 2018 #7
Of course not. ismnotwasm Mar 2018 #8
Can I have the day off? RandySF Mar 2018 #9
I will fight this to my grave. Laffy Kat Mar 2018 #10
Of course not. Glorfindel Mar 2018 #11
He Might Not Have Been Courageous erpowers Mar 2018 #12
No ghostsinthemachine Mar 2018 #13
F that lunasun Mar 2018 #14
Abso-fucking-lutely NOT! 3catwoman3 Mar 2018 #15
Absolutely no. Religious leaders have no business be honored by holidays. MLAA Mar 2018 #16
I could get behind it if it is on a Monday in August, all convenience stores have to stay NCjack Mar 2018 #17
November 9 should be a national holiday Thunderbeast Mar 2018 #18
November 9th is my birthday too! Greybnk48 Mar 2018 #20
That is one of the stupidest ideas. arthritisR_US Mar 2018 #19
How about a day off for National voting? vercetti2021 Mar 2018 #21
That is something we can support! Rhiannon12866 Mar 2018 #24
Yes, yes, yes!!! We really need to celebrate democracy Hortensis Mar 2018 #29
Billy Graham was a racist and a bigot. Look how his son turned out! Greybnk48 Mar 2018 #22
Graham did GWC58 Mar 2018 #35
All women to wear burqa's that day bdjhawk Mar 2018 #23
:) Perhaps we could consider a new MLK/BG Day, Hortensis Mar 2018 #25
Why don't they just Turbineguy Mar 2018 #26
Hell no MFM008 Mar 2018 #27
Stupid idea. Doodley Mar 2018 #28
One look at his son Franklin should tell you RainCaster Mar 2018 #30
No, fuck no !!!! SamKnause Mar 2018 #31
Help No!!!!!! avebury Mar 2018 #32
No way Gothmog Mar 2018 #33
No Luciferous Mar 2018 #34
Don't discount the possibility that Trump will issue an EO to make such a holiday. no_hypocrisy Mar 2018 #36
We need a freedom from religion day C_U_L8R Mar 2018 #37
No, he should not. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #38

Glorfindel

(9,726 posts)
11. Of course not.
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 11:44 PM
Mar 2018

Good grief. Stupidest idea since the Knights of Columbus added "under God" to the pledge of allegiance.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
12. He Might Not Have Been Courageous
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 11:47 PM
Mar 2018

Although he desegregated his tent events, he refused to participate in the Civil Rights Movement. He later said that he regretted his decision to sit on the sidelines during the Civil Rights Movement. It is very easy to sit back once things have become popular and say you wish you had participated in the event. Even though he was a pastor he did not seem to be a guy who wanted to stands alone on issues. He was not a trailblazer on issues. Sometimes it seemed like he was more concerned with being like than with taking a stand. I think national holidays should be reserved for people who were willing to take a stand during their life.

Supposedly he was pro-choice thought the church should stay away from that issue. I wonder if Mr. Siler would want a holiday for Mr. Graham if it turns out it was true that Mr. Graham was pro-choice, or believed that was an issue better left to the states and women.

3catwoman3

(23,971 posts)
15. Abso-fucking-lutely NOT!
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 12:00 AM
Mar 2018

No way. No how. Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MLAA

(17,277 posts)
16. Absolutely no. Religious leaders have no business be honored by holidays.
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 12:06 AM
Mar 2018

Separation of church and state.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
17. I could get behind it if it is on a Monday in August, all convenience stores have to stay
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 01:23 AM
Mar 2018

open, and beer, chips, and dips are 50% off. And, I want a national holiday for atheists on the same day. And, we call it National Summer Holiday.

Thunderbeast

(3,406 posts)
18. November 9 should be a national holiday
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 01:59 AM
Mar 2018

Carl Sagan's birthday.

but sadly,

Spiro Agnew's birthday
Kristalnacht
Fall of Berlin wall

Oh well....I'll just celebrate my own birthday.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
29. Yes, yes, yes!!! We really need to celebrate democracy
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 05:56 AM
Mar 2018

itself in a way that brings people together, as democracy does when it works well, with parades, picnics, walks for charities, ceremonies in thousands of town squares and municipal parks. And of course same-day voter registration opportunities.

Greybnk48

(10,167 posts)
22. Billy Graham was a racist and a bigot. Look how his son turned out!
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 02:16 AM
Mar 2018

He unapologetically supported Nixon and his horrid anti-semitism, his calling the Irish "thick-necked Micks," and using every ethnic stereo-typical smear imaginable. Graham knew this about Nixon, as did every one of us who heard the tapes, and still he rabidly supported him as if Nixon was an honorable man. I suppose his support was in exchange for favors, which makes him dishonorable as well.

I see Billy Graham as the beginning of the shit we're living through right now with the radical political/racist/fascist movement that poses as evangelical Christianity.

GWC58

(2,678 posts)
35. Graham did
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 07:53 AM
Mar 2018

not, at all, seem “Christlike.” Then again most Christians are not Christlike.👿 By the way No way, no how any kind of remembrance for this, supposed, man of God!

bdjhawk

(420 posts)
23. All women to wear burqa's that day
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 03:10 AM
Mar 2018

since he thought women were inferior and should submit to men. Grrrrrrrrrr..................

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. :) Perhaps we could consider a new MLK/BG Day,
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 05:33 AM
Mar 2018

you know a religious/social leaders day like "Presidents' Day" and see how that goes over.



Turbineguy

(37,317 posts)
26. Why don't they just
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 05:49 AM
Mar 2018

sell their organs and donate the money to his ministry instead?

Just trying to be helpful.

RainCaster

(10,866 posts)
30. One look at his son Franklin should tell you
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 06:42 AM
Mar 2018

This guy was a total failure at being a father. If he couldn't teach love to his son, how could he teach it to the world?

No
No
No
No
No
No
No

no_hypocrisy

(46,080 posts)
36. Don't discount the possibility that Trump will issue an EO to make such a holiday.
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 08:12 AM
Mar 2018

You could have a petition with 2,500 signatures and that would be a mandate for him.

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