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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDid Nunberg pull a Devin Nunes?
Did Nunberg receive orders to tie up all MSM yesterday to hide something his handlers wanted to go under the radar? Everyone is assuming he's just a STUPID lawyer, but most of us who are not lawyers know you can't ignore a subpoena.
So what if that was all staged to capture the news cycle and we all fell for it?
imanamerican63
(13,750 posts)PatSeg
(47,285 posts)He looked genuinely frazzled and upset.
greymattermom
(5,751 posts)by doing something to make him all frazzled and upset. All of these folks will lose their life savings in legal fees, whether they are ever found guilty or not.
PatSeg
(47,285 posts)he blew off the media and someone else is answering his phone, saying he is not doing anymore interviews. Appears there was an intervention.
That sucks about the legal fees, but people need to be careful of the company they keep.
rainin
(3,010 posts)And he was keeping the camera on himself even when he had nothing of value to say. In Nunes' case, we later decided it was a distraction tactic. Now we know this strategy is in their toolbox.
PatSeg
(47,285 posts)but I see what you mean about intentionally being a distraction. He just looks so uncomfortable doing it, like a guy who has a gun in his back or a loved one held hostage.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,615 posts)And I think he knows you can't ignore a GJ subpoena, but like so many of the crazies that infested the Trump campaign, he just can't STFU. He reminds me more of Carter Page. And the fact that he got through law school doesn't necessarily mean he's especially smart. According to one of the talking heads on MSNBC (John Heilemann, I think), he's always like that.
solara
(3,836 posts)"A new New Yorker profile of Trump-Russia dossier author Christopher Steele reports on a lesser-known memo the former MI-6 spy allegedly discussed with special counsel Robert Muellers investigators. According to the report, in late November 2016, Steele relayed information from his Russian sources that senior Kremlin officials had intervened to block Mitt Romney as President-elect Trumps choice for secretary of State."
The story got through anyway, but the spotlight on it wasn't as strong as it should have been. This is an important bit of information. If Putin was actually able choose his good buddy Tillerson as our Secretary of State, and if it is true that PINO trump had never met him before he appointed him, this would pretty much guarantee the U.S. sanctions would not be enforced and perhaps even lifted. We could be in a lot of trouble here unless there are more adults in the room besides Mueller.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/2nd-steele-memo-russia-blocked-mitt-romney-as-sec-of-state
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,615 posts)It sure as heck looked to me like he was having a manic episode.
solara
(3,836 posts)I think Nurnberg's manic meltdown was manipulated and used to distract the news media from the much bigger and more important story of the new Steele memo. I was also pleasantly surprised to see the levels of patience, of kindness and empathy shown to him, which made the entire Nurnberg experience even more surreal. People who know him quite possibly knew what would set him off and how to abet his paranoia and feed into his reactions.
He wouldn't be the first pawn in this epic trumpian political catastrophe
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)Castro or Putin and had THEM order HER who to pick for her Scty State?
Well my friend the entire country would be forced to stop, there would be NO going forward until Hillary was in jail or worse...
VOX
(22,976 posts)You are correct. EVERYTHING would come to a screeching halt. And all the usual right-wing news sources would blast a unified message about treason and the sanctity of our Constitution. Their mantra would be the American people deserve to know!
And there would be endless public scorning, and ultimately, as you say, thered be prison time, since an example would have to be made. Free and fair elections would come to an end as well, to put a stop to anti-American liberalism, etc.
solara
(3,836 posts)And there has hardly been a peep about this (unless I missed it) Certainly not the kind of peep that would have been shrieked from the roof tops ad nauseam had it been Hillary.
And, if true, it would seem there has definitely been a coup.
rainin
(3,010 posts)this technique would be in my curriculum. These people are masters. We have to be smarter and expect all manner of distraction.
solara
(3,836 posts)rainin
(3,010 posts)Nunberg already reversed himself this morning saying he will comply with the subpoena.
All lawyers are not smart, but the dumbest lawyer should know he has to comply with a grand jury subpoena. That tells me he likely knew and we are being duped.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,615 posts)Occam's Razor - the simplest explanation is likely to be the correct one.
rainin
(3,010 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,615 posts)FarCenter
(19,429 posts)Squinch
(50,922 posts)onenote
(42,609 posts)Who did these "orders" come from? Who are "his handlers"? And what do you think they wanted to go "under the radar"?
rainin
(3,010 posts)I don't have to know who exactly his handlers are either, but we know there is direction coming from Moscow. Most recently, we learned that our Secretary of State was influenced by handlers from Moscow.
So, it's not crazy if it's true. We are in real life crazy land now.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)My guess is this,Mueller and his Team are rolling up the Fringe distraction creators first. Peeling the Onion my friends.
If you have noticed what has transpired in recent weeks when it comes to false stories and sources,social media sites are being exposed for their lack of control of False Content and it is taking a financial toll on them. And at the same time,the anti Mueller stories are diminishing .
rainin
(3,010 posts)Turning attention to the distraction creators sounds like a wise move. Those people are dangerous. Plus, I think they knew about the crimes before they were committed, so that everything would roll out smoothly. They thought they'd never get caught.
I'd love to see Hannity being interviewed by the Special Prosecutor. He'd better bring his Depends.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Murdoch did receive a Court Ruling calling FOX News a entertainment entity thus giving them first amendment cover for their lies. And at the same time,their Talent's are covered via the Reporters Shield law.
If these so called Talent's colude with someone on their own time,that might give Mueller a opening.
onenote
(42,609 posts)If anything, it has focused more attention on Stone.
CrispyQ
(36,424 posts)That what it was yesterday, a multi-ring circus, with Nunberg moving from one ring to another.
brooklynite
(94,384 posts)Nunberg was dealing with program hosts, not reporters. Do you imagine that if something "newsworthy" was occuring, whichever network was NOT currently carrying a Nunberg interview wouldn't put it up?
rainin
(3,010 posts)Maybe years of reality TV IS good experience for being President (a criminal President, that is).
brooklynite
(94,384 posts)PatentlyDemocratic
(89 posts)I didnt see anything worth that level of distraction. I think Nunberg is just Carter Page-esque. He is prone to these bizarre interviews devoid of self-awareness.
solara
(3,836 posts)of that level of distraction. Perhaps the meeting between Netanyahu and trump would qualify? Seems pretty newsworthy to me or how about Putin encouraging PINO trump to pick Tillerson (Putin's little buddy) as Secretary of State instead of trump's actual choice, Romney, (who rubs Putin the wrong way).. that seems like a story most folks would be interested in hearing.
Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)spill the beans. Yes he was having a meltdown because it will be his testimony who fucks his good ole buddy.
The whole thing is delicious.
Whiskeytide
(4,459 posts)... an egotistical asshole like Trump, and are therefore allowed to remain in the inner circle.
1. Devious assholes who have no self respect or moral compass, and who and are angling to get rich or acquire power - and are willing to suck up to Trump to achieve those goals. Miller and Bannon are examples.
2. Complete morons who suck up to Trump because they are complete morons who simply don't know any better. Nunburg and Page are examples.
I don't think it goes beyond that. He's an idiot who was there because he fawned over Trump for years.