Fucking gun nuts.

[Initech]

A 20-year-old southern Oregon man filed suit Monday against Dick’s Sporting Goods and Walmart after he says both national retailers refused to sell him a rifle in recent days.

Tyler Watson's lawsuit could be the first of its kind in the U.S., according to his attorney, Max Whittington. Whittington knows of no others.

Watson claims he encountered age discrimination when he tried to buy a .22-caliber Ruger rifle on Feb. 24 in Medford at Field & Stream, which is owned by Dick's Sporting Goods.

That was four days before the retailer announced that it wouldn't sell guns to anyone under 21 in the wake of a 19-year-old gunman's rampage at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Florida that killed 17 people on Feb. 14.

Walmart made a similar nationwide announcement the same day as Dick's.
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2018/03/oregon_man_20_sues_big_retaile.html

This is the kind of person who clearly should not have one of these things.

[malaise]

1. Fugg him

[maxsolomon]

2. Inevitable

The RW has deep pockets to support this sort of action.

[redstatebluegirl]

3. I'm sure the NRA is paying his legal team.

[gratuitous]

4. He's also asking for punitive damages

I'm not sure how his attorney thinks he's going to recover punitive damages, but the theory seems to be that because Oregon state law allows the sale of firearms to 18, 19, and 20 year olds, individual retailers can't make their own more restrictive policies for gun sales.

I'm confident that both Dick's and Wal-Mart will be able to hire competent legal representation.

[Hoyt]

8. Love to hear his rationale for damages -- "I went to to a party and was the only white wing racist

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there without a gun, I'll be considered a wuss/wimp for life."

Gunners are truly deplorable.

[ProudLib72]

24. The only single moonie in the congregation.

[Lee-Lee]

9. Its because Oregons state law prohibits age discrimination

About half the states in the US include age in any form as a protected class in their stage anti-discrimination laws.

Under Oregon’s law as I read it they are indeed unlawfully discriminating against him by refusing to do a sale on basis of age.

In that state, under the law there, it is equally as unlawful to refuse a sale to a person on age, race, gender or any other class. He has as much standing as he would if they had refused the sale based on gender or race.

[gratuitous]

13. That's the theory behind his claim

I just don't see how he's going to reach the punitive damages threshold. Looking at his complaint, punitive damages are being sought due to "the willful nature of the discrimination." That would seem to be an allegation unlikely to get very far with a trial judge.

[Lee-Lee]

18. They are basing the willful part on the fact that they publicly bragged they would do it

Imagine if a store issued press releases saying “from this day forward we will not sell guns to black people, because we feel they can’t be trusted with them”. That would indicate willful and intentional discrimination.

Under the law in that state doing the same thing based on age is an equally egregious violation. You may not see them as equal, but it carries equal weight under the law there as written to discriminate on race or age.

[LanternWaste]

14. Oregon's law applies only to hiring and firing.

Oregon's law, as most other state laws in this regard, applies only to hiring and firing.

[Lee-Lee]

16. No, it covers public accommodations

And the courts have long established that includes retail sale establishments.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Equality_Act

[LanternWaste]

17. The Oregon Equality Act does not apply to age.

The Oregon Equality Act does not apply to age.

[Lee-Lee]

19. Your right, here is the right link to the aplicable law

https://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/659A.403

Trying to respond to too many posts and copied the wrong page.

[LanternWaste]

21. And you have objective evidence this applies to "most states?"

And you have objective evidence this applies to "most states" as alleged?

[Lee-Lee]

22. I never said its the same in most states

I said about half of the states include age in thier public accommodations laws.

Here is a start for you:

http://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/state-public-accommodation-laws.aspx

20 states list age, or as I said “about half” of them.

[petronius]

20. Except that the statute linked in the article makes explicit mention of alcohol,

cannabis, and special offers to people over 50. So, while I'm not an attorney by any stretch, I don't read it as if the Oregon Legislature was only thinking about employment here...

[Hoyt]

26. Oh, they have to sell to a 16 year old, 10 year old?

[Lee-Lee]

27. Since that is prohibited by law of course not

[Hoyt]

28. Maybe they'll wise up and just stop selling guns completely. Darn sure will improve clientele.

I bet the courts rule in the store's favor. As hard as gun-fanciers try to convince us they are discriminated against, it's just laughable, especially since so many gunners are certifiable right wing racists.

[Lee-Lee]

32. You are more likely to see some states change their laws

Some states have specific exemptions to the anti discrimination and public accommodations laws that allow some discrimination based on age. Car rental companies come to mind as one example.

But to make that hold up in court they will have to show that the companies are at an undue risk of loss unless they are allowed to discriminate. That may be harder than it sounds.

But as written there is no basis for the courts to rule against them. It has the same legal standing as if they made press releases saying based on crime statistics they were no longer selling guns to black people because they felt they were not responsible enough and then refused sales based just on race. When the law is the exact same one for race and age the standing to sue is the same too.

[Hoyt]

5. So-called "responsible and law-abiding" gun-fanciers will never quit pushing for guns everywhere.

[Initech]

6. Yup - they choose their vice over anything else.

[world wide wally]

7. So, someone can be shot and killed if the shooter feels that they pose a threat,

But a store MUST sell a gun to someone they feel may be a threat..... Meanwhile, that same store (Walmart) can refuse to sell them a cake if it is for something gay if it doesn't comply with their personal religion?


And we wonder why our country is fucked up.

[Lee-Lee]

11. No, there are two standard at play

Yes, a shop can refuse a sale to a specific individual if that individuals actions make a reasonable person feel they may be a threat or a dangerZ

However, in states where age is included as a protected class in the states anti-discrimination or public accommodations laws it isn’t legal to blanketly refuse sales based on age. In those dates it is just as illegal to refuse as sale based on age as it is race, religion, gender etc.

[world wide wally]

15. But they can walk into the parkiNg lot and shoot the first person he sees because he imagined

them to be a threat?

[Lee-Lee]

23. What are you talking about?

[Lee-Lee]

10. I predicted this in another tread

About half the states have anti-discrimination or public accommodations laws that list age as a protect class that cannot be discriminated against.

Oregon appears to be one of those states.

In those states it is just as unlawful to refuse a sale of an otherwise legal product on the basis of age as it would be to refuse the sale based on race, religion, gender etc.

[spanone]

12. i'm sure he can cross the street and buy it in another shop..probably nra sponsored

Dick's and Walmart's lawyers anticipated this if the are competent

so buying alcohol at 21 is age discrimination

having to be 16 to drive is age discrimination

not being able to tap into my social security at 20 is GODDAMN AGE DISCRIMINATION

there's no end to it

[former9thward]

33. Everything you mentioned are ages set by state or federal law.

So complying with the law is not discrimination. Oregon sets the law for buying rifles at 18 not 21.

[ProudLib72]

25. I hope the judge calls him to the bench, looks him straight in the face, and tells him

"Son, you'll shoot your eye out." Because, really, what does this suit say about his mental/emotional age? It's a freaking joke.

[NCTraveler]

29. I hope Ducks and Walmart...

Don’t pull a legal “awe darn it.”

[samir.g]

30. FUck this guy

[trof]

31. 16 year old sues Kappy's Fine Wine and Spirits over age discrimination.

Boston Messenger - 3/06/18
16 Year old Randy D'Amato is suing Kappy's, the Boston based liquor store chain, for age discrimination.

"I tried to buy a case of Bud Lite and they refused to sell it to me. It's a clear case of age discrimination."

Randy has retained famed Boston civil rights attorney Christopher Sumito to represent him.

When asked for a comment, Mr. Sumito said "This is a clear cut case. I have no doubt whatsoever that we will prevail."

[marlakay]

34. We live in Medford

My husband just said never been in Dick’s but I am going to go buy something and tell manager why.

This town is conservative though, its right next to my Trader Joes so i will start checking to see how busy they are.