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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums****BREAKING**** Trump ignoring legal advice and speaking to Mueller witnesses
PER MSNBC
Take me back
The dirty:
In one episode, the president told an aide that the White House counsel, Donald F. McGahn II, should issue a statement denying a New York Times article in January. The article said Mr. McGahn told investigators that the president once asked him to fire the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III. Mr. McGahn never released a statement and later had to remind the president that he had indeed asked Mr. McGahn to see that Mr. Mueller was dismissed, the people said.
In the other episode, Mr. Trump asked his former chief of staff, Reince Priebus, how his interview had gone with the special counsels investigators and whether they had been nice, according to two people familiar with the discussion.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/07/us/politics/trump-witnesses-special-counsel-priebus-mcgahn.html
trueblue2007
(17,205 posts)IDIOT
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)at least the first paragraph did
aggiesal
(8,911 posts)ffr
(22,669 posts)femmocrat
(28,394 posts)And he makes such good use of it!
Stallion
(6,474 posts)the grand jury witness who discusses Grand jury testimony is probably subject to contempt of court citation since all evidence presented is considered confidential and privileged-that's why its not open to the public-so witnesses can't coordinate testimony
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)trump is witness tampering. Doesn't matter if he and they claim otherwise, by the virtue of his title of Pres. he exerts influence.
dameatball
(7,397 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)My 2 year old would cover his eyes and stand in the middle of the room during hide n seek.
He thought no one would see him, 'cause HE couldn't see.
Perfectly understandable behaviors. When kids do them.
Cannot even fathom what it would be like being next to a supposed adult who lives that level.
triron
(21,999 posts)nclib
(1,013 posts)don't ya know
magicarpet
(14,145 posts).... combined together - even smarter than team Mueller - smarter than Mueller him self.
IQ so high the charts don't have the ability to record his astronomical IQ numbers.
nclib
(1,013 posts)That's why he has the best and biggest words.
He can lie to Mueller and Mueller will never catch him. He will bamboozle Mueller.
dalton99a
(81,455 posts)kentuck
(111,079 posts)Now Mueller will have to call all his witnesses back in again and see if Trump talked with them and what did he ask??
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)LuvLoogie
(6,995 posts)Not even close. Blago is doing 15 years for a violation that doesn't even register on the scale that trump's malfeasance requires.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)The fool knows he is probably being recorded around these people and is willing to implicate himself anyways.
chelsea0011
(10,115 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)poboy2
(2,078 posts)-
In one episode, the president told an aide that the White House counsel, Donald F. McGahn II, should issue a statement denying a New York Times article in January. The article said Mr. McGahn told investigators that the president once asked him to fire the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III. Mr. McGahn never released a statement and later had to remind the president that he had indeed asked Mr. McGahn to see that Mr. Mueller was dismissed, the people said.
In the other episode, Mr. Trump asked his former chief of staff, Reince Priebus, how his interview had gone with the special counsels investigators and whether they had been nice, according to two people familiar with the discussion.
The episodes demonstrate that even as the special counsel investigation appears to be intensifying, the president has ignored his lawyers advice to avoid doing anything publicly or privately that could create the appearance of interfering with it.
Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/07/us/politics/trump-witnesses-special-counsel-priebus-mcgahn.html
Tatiana
(14,167 posts)I cannot wait until Mueller indicts this fool.
Each day it gets harder and harder to tolerate his destruction of our nation and the world.
I want him and his family of grifters gone.
dem4decades
(11,282 posts)spanone
(135,827 posts)Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)Mr. Porter, who resigned last month amid a domestic abuse scandal, told Mr. McGahn the president had suggested he might get rid of Mr. McGahn if he chose not to challenge the article, the people briefed on the conversation said.
Mr. McGahn did not publicly deny the article, and the president later confronted him in the Oval Office in front of the White House chief of staff, John F. Kelly, according to the people.
The president said he had never ordered Mr. McGahn to fire the special counsel. Mr. McGahn replied that the president was wrong and that he had in fact asked Mr. McGahn in June to call the deputy attorney general, Rod J. Rosenstein, to tell him that the special counsel had a series of conflicts that disqualified him for overseeing the investigation and that he had to be dismissed. The president told Mr. McGahn that he did not remember the discussion that way.
rpannier
(24,329 posts)him
He doesn't listen.
2nd reason was, he doesn't pay
Corgigal
(9,291 posts)Damn it, hand me another folder. Talking about a binder full of women, these are blinders full of felonies.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)and obstruction of justice. Donnie dumber than a door nail
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,582 posts)or Grand Jury, and what did he tell them. I was going to say "what did they discuss," but we all know that when Donny Two Scoops is involved in a conversation communication only occurs in one direction. He talks, they listen (or pretend to listen while they reconsider their life choices).
Laurian
(2,593 posts)Why not? He's never suffered any consequences or been held to account and I'm beginning to think he never will.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)notKeith
(138 posts)Random thoughts --
Trump doesn't get it - he doesn't listen to counsel, he watches Fox and then tweets insanity.
I am deeply concerned that Mueller may have a target on his back - how many people associated with Russian involvement in our election have died? What happens when it becomes evident that Mueller's team is about to nail Trump?
Just finished reading an article about the methane feedback loop that is happening - http://meltfactor.org/is-the-greenhouse-gas-dragon-awakening/ - we may turn into another Venus before Trump starts WW III.
And the melting permafrost could unleash very old diseases: "We could actually catch a disease from a Neanderthals remains, which is amazing." https://www.vox.com/2017/9/6/16062174/permafrost-melting
We live in interesting times.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)An understandable one.
thanks for the links and welcome to DU.
Kablooie
(18,628 posts)Certainly it adds an extra element of suspicion to him and doesn't help but it doesn't sound like he said or found out anything illegal.
That's if ALL he said was what is in the article.
Mueller has to be suspicious that there might be more to the conversations than what was reported and raises suspicion that there could have been other conversations which were not reported.
wishstar
(5,268 posts)and McGahn had to remind him that he had in fact asked McGahn to fire Mueller so McGahn would be lying if he were to issue statement denying Trump had asked him to fire Mueller.
The part about Priebus is not too concerning if that was all they discussed.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Even the TRUTH sounds crazy with these people.
Bleacher Creature
(11,256 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Trump might as well just start trying on orange scrubs.
mvd
(65,173 posts)I am thoroughly enjoying the unraveling!
IronLionZion
(45,432 posts)Winners don't have time for laws. Honey badger don't care
OldHippieChick
(2,434 posts)repuke or two could find the heart, courage and brain to recognize what is going on and DO something about it.