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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
2. Oh god, that's got me crying..
Fri Mar 9, 2018, 01:44 AM
Mar 2018

tears of rage.
how is this any different than what Hitler did to the Jews and other people?

ICE and Border Patrol are literally disappearing people off the street.
When they make mistakes they won't admit it, and AMERICAN citizens have found themselves in Mexico.

If I were the kids abandoned on the street after seeing that, I would not have good feelings about this country.

Pls, someone tell me this made the tv news....

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
6. This is about a 20 min drive from where I live in San Diego.
Fri Mar 9, 2018, 02:01 AM
Mar 2018

How can this be happening?!?!? UNREAL! Dude, where's my country???

I wanted to go down to where the fucking moron is going to visit the border wall prototypes near the border in Otay Mesa with my DACA protest sign but it is at a location that will be hard to get access to. I am livid!

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
7. One of my daughter's is doing a "spring break service-learning experience"
Fri Mar 9, 2018, 02:03 AM
Mar 2018

Over the border there in Tijuana through a Global Border Crossing course st school.

"Global Border Crossing: Tijuana, México & San Diego, CA
March 3-10, 2018 (Spring Break)
The Global Border Crossing course focuses on the historical and current relationships between the United States and its bordering communities, examining the political, economic and social aspects of these relationships. By diving deeply into learning about the U.S./México border region, and other border regions around the world, participants will be prepared to be immersed in a border region for one week during the spring break service-learning experience.

The class will work with community members in Tijuana, México through Esperanza International, a transnational non-profit organization that works to build a community both literally and figuratively along the border of the U.S and México. In Tijuana, participants will work alongside Esperanza community members to help build homes. Participants will also explore other facets of border life, through a variety of excursions which include visiting a health clinic, the border wall, a migrant house, and more."

womanofthehills

(8,661 posts)
9. A teacher of one of the three daughters posted the clips
Fri Mar 9, 2018, 02:05 AM
Mar 2018
Prado said Morales was walking near her home with her three daughters when the arrest occurred. Now, her three daughters are being cared for by an uncle.

A teacher of one of Morales’ daughters who posted the clips on Facebook did not return requests for comment.

“Our biggest concern is the manner in which this raid took place, the violent manner in which they detained her and pushed her in,” Prado said. “The terror and trauma that is being imposed on the children, her daughters.”

Footage of the arrest emerged amid heightened tensions between the Trump administration and California over immigration policies after the Justice Department this week filed a legal challenge to the state’s so-called sanctuary laws.


http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/california/la-me-ln-national-city-border-patrol-detention-20180308-story.html

womanofthehills

(8,661 posts)
10. In response to this video on Twitter, a man posted that he and his family always carry handcuffs
Fri Mar 9, 2018, 02:08 AM
Mar 2018

so the whole family can link themselves together if they try to take one of them away. He said they will have to take them all.

angrychair

(8,680 posts)
12. This is why you states like CA and WA
Fri Mar 9, 2018, 02:28 AM
Mar 2018

Don’t cooperate with ICE. We don’t cooperate with jackbooted thugs acting like Nazi secret police.

RESIST! ✊🏼

pazzyanne

(6,543 posts)
14. This is nauseating and heartbreaking
Fri Mar 9, 2018, 03:32 AM
Mar 2018

to think that this goes on over and over again in our country. What kind of people have we become? This is an America I do not recognize. The cruelty tears my heart out. I'm sorry but I could not help but think about the Gestapo while watching this.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
15. What they do in general is deplorable
Fri Mar 9, 2018, 04:50 AM
Mar 2018

In this case, they might have had a reason. Still a tragedy for the kids. According to them they claim:

"Perla Morales-Luna was identified as an organizer for a transnational criminal smuggling organization operating in East County, San Diego. She was arrested as a result of a targeted operation on March 3, 2018, in National City for being in the country illegally."

I don't know what the smuggling refers to and it wasn't clarified. Helping people, depending on what she did, is different than smuggling substances.

womanofthehills

(8,661 posts)
16. Who knows - they won't say
Fri Mar 9, 2018, 09:57 AM
Mar 2018
"She was arrested as a result of a targeted operation on March 3, 2018, in National City for being in the country illegally," said Jackie Wasiluk, a spokesperson for CBP. "She is currently in Border Patrol custody awaiting transfer to ICE for removal proceedings."


Latino Rebels @latinorebels
Replying to @latinorebe
We have also asked @CBPSanDiego what the name of the "transitional criminal smuggling organization" was. We have yet to receive a response but we will share if CBP responds.


Judith Castro-Rangel, who posted the two videos, said she teaches one of Morales-Luna's daughters.

"The brutalized, injustice that is happening in this country is sad," Castro-Rangel wrote in her Facebook post. "The subjects dressed as civilians detained Perla Morales at the head of her three daughters whom the Border Patrol left alone after brutally arresting their mother."

Adriana Jasso, program coordinator for the American Friends Service Committee San Diego Office, said the arrest was grotesque.

"The officers display no empathy nor humanity while this mother and her children begged for them not to separate the family," Jasso told BuzzFeed News in a statement. "This type of action by federal agencies can only be interpreted as representing the much anticipated and dangerous escalation of raids in California threatened by the Trump administration."


https://www.buzzfeed.com/adolfoflores/a-video-shows-border-patrol-agents-pulling-an-undocumented?utm_term=.ahog0mxEK#.pu38bQngL

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
17. I don't trust their explanation. At all.
Fri Mar 9, 2018, 03:05 PM
Mar 2018

Worse yet, they are providing the answer to the burning question of how and why "good Germans" could "allow" Hitler.
Exactly like this, obviously. ..there seems to be no shortage of people who willingly do the kidnappings, ignoring any semblance of due process, and basic civility. It's all based on racism, the curse of this country since the beginning.

haele

(12,640 posts)
18. The Law always claim it's a major smuggling ring, whether or not that's the actual situation.
Fri Mar 9, 2018, 03:25 PM
Mar 2018

"Transnational Criminal Smuggling Organization" can mean any number of things, from someone who allows various relatives and friends of relatives a place to gather and get a bit of food and a ride when they first come over the border to work - with or without a work visa (without makes it "criminal" ) on occasion to someone associated with any number of criminal cartels.
The former is not an unusual situation.

I know a few families that have lived in the border area for generations - cousins born on either side who are used to coming and going without visas, just as their otherwise "law abiding" grandparents, g-uncles and g-aunts had done for decades.
Heck, a neighbor where I lived four years ago would have Abuela come up from TJ with the Tio who had a work visa to stay with them during the week and watch the toddlers while he and his wife worked to pay their mortgage and taxes.
Even then, it wouldn't have been have been considered a big deal - under Jeff Session's DoJ, it's a federal criminal offense - unless they spend money and time they don't have to get her a background check and a visa.

One shipmate on my first ship was born near Tecate on the U.S. side of his family ranch before the last time the border was tweaked in the 1960s by a couple hundred feet; he's a U.S. citizen because the 1930's adobe was a "U" shape with a large central courtyard and surveyors put the U.S./Mexico border through the courtyard between the 1920's (not making it clear to the family at the time) when it was just a stage transfer house and residence on the northern edge of a large Spanish land grant that the border had originally been drawn across with the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo - a situation that several Mexican families still face.
These family's mindset is that they never crossed the border unlawfully, the border crossed them unfairly.

Haele


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