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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMaybe I'm paranoid, but could Trump be planning to mobilize the NG?
With everything going on, with the constant barrage of news and breaking news, I forget things that happened last week. But the parade that Drumpf wants - is it a way to move equipment across the country "for a parade" and have it actually a plan to declare martial law and shut down our government?
Nothing would surprise me.
subterranean
(3,427 posts)Trump is too incompetent to pull off something like that. I think he just wants a big military parade for his own self-glorification.
lame54
(35,259 posts)Not in Trump's wheelhouse
applegrove
(118,462 posts)Last edited Fri Mar 9, 2018, 03:16 AM - Edit history (1)
corrupt the US on his behalf so long as collusion cannot easily be proved? Sure. But armies and missiles and coups can be proved.
BigmanPigman
(51,563 posts)I wouldn't be surprised if they tuned their tanks, etc on the W House. Maybe a milktary coup?
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,811 posts)actually is, and whether or not he can mobilize it. A huge assumption, given his ignorance about almost everything.
Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)Just as ridiculous now as they were then.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)ProfessorGAC
(64,827 posts)At least 45 was in the ANG, which means he didn't avoid service entirely. The military guys had to respect that more than a guy who got multiple deferments because of an "owwie". So, this might be even be less likely than with 45. And by less i mean that both were essentially zero.
mythology
(9,527 posts)itcfish
(1,828 posts)Bush did use the National Guard to send to Iraq. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
struggle4progress
(118,214 posts)would remain sufficiently committed to American democracy to resist any such move, if it occurred
By this, I mean that it is my expectation that military personnel can, when necessary, exhibit the backbone to resist unlawful orders; and that the courts will continue to take the view that martial law does not apply where the ordinary mechanisms of procedure remain practicably applicable; and that the general public takes a dim view of would-be dictators
The US is a large and complicated country: it will not easily lend itself to a sudden centralization of power -- far too much cooperation by far too many people is required
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)Even then, a coup is essentially impossible, since the governors of the various states would mobilize the National Guard in their states, which they command. They would refuse to federalize the National Guard, which is the procedure for placing the NG under US Army command, instead of state governor command.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)During the battle for integration of the schools in Little Rock Eisenhower actually federalized the entire Arkansas National Guard in its entirety just to remove the ability to use them from Governor Fabus. He never ordered them to service, just federalized them to assume control.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)Just like I can't imagine the CA NG refusing to be federalized for the purposes of secession.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)Not to say there arent some serious existential threats posed by this (mis)administration there are. But those are rooted in their ignorance of or disregard for the rule of law.
I share your nothing would surprise me feeling, but Id add an exception to that apprehension: it cannot be anything requiring precision, planning, logistics, communications, execution, firm decision-making, and building consensus.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)The largest is that first and foremost the military wouldnt go along with it.
While the military, and the officer corps even more so, skews more conservative they are also much more decimated to ideals than party.
And more than anything, dedicated to upholding the Constitution.
Him trying to call off elections or suspend the Constitution would result in the military not participating in that but, if anything, shouting that shit down in a hurry.
People seem to think the military is this unthinking, robotic monolith that will do whatever they are told without question. That is far from the truth.
panader0
(25,816 posts)shut down Wal-Marts----so anything is possible. Keep your ears on>
onecent
(6,096 posts)He is up against a brick wall as it sits anyway....(or so it seems)
And he loves ALL THE CHAOS.....
PinkTiger
(2,590 posts)I believe the perpetual news is driving me mad. Now I feel a little better.
denbot
(9,898 posts)Or just smoke a joint and chill..