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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDo you think that the next Dem Candidate for POTUS should show his/her full tax returns?
I do. I think that for 2020 is more important than ever. I will show a contrast with trump, who refuses to show his.
It will show honesty, transparency and that our candidate has nothing to hide.
I feel so strongly about this that I think it should be required by law, but even if it isn't, candidates should volunteer the information out of decency and honesty. The American people deserve full disclosure from the candidates
ETA: Just to be clear, I think the candidate should release their tax returns during the primaries. Voters need to know from the start who they are voting for.
Sophia4
(3,515 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Mike Nelson
(9,953 posts)...and, after Trump, no serious candidate will win without releasing their tax statements.
Salviati
(6,008 posts)I think all the candidates up for the nomination should release their tax returns right from the start, before the first primary.
Cha
(297,154 posts)Democratic candidate for POTUS turned it.. who got CHEATED out by the Russians and all their GD enablers.
calimary
(81,220 posts)That's how they got bush/cheney into the White House, too.
Cha
(297,154 posts)We can't even have another!
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)If you want transparency in the government then you need to be transparent yourself. I have no clue why any politician that seeks the office of the Presidency would withhold that information. Voters need to know. That is a fact.
After trump. I think Congress needs a whole new set of vetting rules for the highest office in the land. What we got with trump is a man that uses the treasury as his personal piggy bank.
Never again.
shanny
(6,709 posts)Is that what you meant?
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)getagrip_already
(14,721 posts)People need to know who they are voting for.
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)Exactly.
We need to know a candidates standing. I do not want to vote blindly.
calimary
(81,220 posts)I thought that was such a great comment that I wrote it down to make sure I wouldn't forget it.
Kinda bottom-lines it, 'eh?
Cha
(297,154 posts)on!
Mahalo!
The attorney for Stormy Daniels, Michael Avenatti, summed it up perfectly the other day.
"People who have nothing to hide - hide nothing."
Progressive dog
(6,900 posts)They should make their tax returns available before any delegates are chosen.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,233 posts)Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)Exotica
(1,461 posts)DonViejo
(60,536 posts)thinking about running.
jrthin
(4,835 posts)RB TexLa
(17,003 posts)I'm not above using it against trump but I don't believe anyone has to if they don't want.
George II
(67,782 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)At least no logical reason. I lost an audit with the IRS and had to pay back taxes and penalties. But both me and the IRS treated my mistake as an honest mistake. If I ran for office (after falling and hitting my head), I would have no issue releasing my taxes and explaining them.
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)period.
SCantiGOP
(13,869 posts)Maven
(10,533 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)There should be nothing in them worth hiding.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)As it is not a legal requirement and ONLY if they choose too.
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)They want to run then they are transparent to the American people they wish to represent. trump is a perfect example of why we need transparency. trumpo has proven to America why this needs to happen. He is using the US Treasury and taxpayers monies as his personal piggy bank and has prove to be a grifter. You want this to happen again? Are you alright with what Don and his family is doing.
I want to see his taxes and others that seek office every Fugging year just like the IRS requires. Show us the money.
Cha
(297,154 posts)sneaky shite like trump.. wth do we care, eh?
The attorney for Stormy Daniels, Michael Avenatti, summed it up perfectly the other day.
"People who have nothing to hide - hide nothing."
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=10340117
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)We now know that corruption, both political and monetary, has grown ferociously. Russia exports corruption with specific intent to undermine other nations. A quadrupling of planetary wealth has been used to institutionalize corruption through our own laws, which we MUST get under control.
And if we don't make it a legal requirement, shouldn't the financial backgrounds of all candidates be open for scrutiny anyway and refusal to disclose at very least cause frowns and long, cool looks from the electorate?
Just for perspective: 30 years of Hillary Clinton's returns are released for public information. Bizarre or what that it's HER name that's been smeared as synonymous with corruption while others hide their pasts?
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Anyone who does NOT should not get a SINGLE vote from anyone claiming to be a liberal.
american_ideals
(613 posts)Cha
(297,154 posts)american_ideals
(613 posts)Vote!
Cha
(297,154 posts)mwooldri
(10,303 posts)I can't cite sources right now but I think California and maybe New Jersey were trying to make it a requirement for a Presidential candidate to have released tax returns to be on the ballot. After all, it is a state thing.
summer_in_TX
(2,735 posts)Oregon and Maryland are two of them.
http://katu.com/news/politics/bills-in-oregon-17-others-require-public-tax-returns-for-presidential-candidates
vkkv
(3,384 posts)If it's earned honestly, I want to know!
If it's married money, I want to know!
leanforward
(1,076 posts)pecosbob
(7,537 posts)The other party has that gig all wrapped up. Dems are supposed to be the party of the working stiff. Rich people tend to big defenders of the status quo in my experience. Tax avoidance by off-shoring corporate funds in a tax shelter is so common that a corporation repatriating money becomes a news story. Rich people are for some reason lothe to have their finances examined in public. May have something to do with most of them being having little or no ethics, scruples or morals...and the fact that most of them are likely to be cheating on their taxes. So this time around let's not annoint another rich white corporate-friendly candidate...'kay? That's a shot across the Democratic Party's bow if you didn't catch it...stop ratfucking progressive candidates in favor of more of the same rich a**holes that think it's okay to drop a cruise missile on an Afghani goat herder or for Monsanto to force-feed us all Round-Up.
Cha
(297,154 posts)doing it, like trump does NOT.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)"So this time around let's not annoint(sic) another rich white corporate-friendly candidate...'kay?
but this point right here essentially implies that the party should buck the choice of a majority of its voters next time. In 2016, one candidate did overwhelmingly better with appealing to non-White Democrats, and ultimately won by over 3M votes fair-and-square.
brer cat
(24,560 posts)If you went back in time, you would be eliminating some fine Democratic Presidents. No thank you for your very bigoted opinion.
Cha
(297,154 posts)that exactly assbackwards.
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)I'd also like to see the FEC institute mandatory disclosure of the source of all campaign donations, including small dollar donations. What's to stop multiple Russian bots from funneling money to friendly Republicans by clicking on a $10 donation button 24/7 for days or weeks at a time? I'm sure that honest candidates (unlike Trump) and the electorate at large would want to be aware if foreign operatives were attempting to circumvent American election laws.
We need full disclosure of all donations and multiple years of full tax returns released if we are to truly be informed about who our candidates might really be representing.
american_ideals
(613 posts)Of anything political should need to disclose all donors. Down to the person, not just down to some shell LLC.
George II
(67,782 posts)....if the same person gives another $50 it also doesn't have to be itemized.
A couple of more $50 contributions gets that person to the level where it has to be itemized, but since each was only $50 they could all be hidden. How does anyone know that there were enough "small" contributions from a single person to equal the level to itemize if each was under $200?
In fact, a single person or entity can contribute as much as $10 million and not be detected as long as that huge amount is broken down into less than $200 each.
stonecutter357
(12,695 posts)Master_Monstruwacan
(71 posts)The very next second after the GOP candidate shows his.
PatrickforO
(14,570 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,647 posts)Including Bernie, if he runs again. He let us down last time.
KTM
(1,823 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)N/T
SHRED
(28,136 posts)cstanleytech
(26,284 posts)stops lying about being audited and releases his.
Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Susan Calvin
(1,646 posts)SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)mcar
(42,302 posts)ooky
(8,922 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)And not wait until after the election to come clean.
murielm99
(30,735 posts)I think it will be done state by state.
I worry that some repiggie will take it to court, all the way to the SC. If 45 gets his way and has the conservative court he wants, then such a law could be overturned. They will find a way. We need to find a way to counter this.
Yes, by all means, show us your taxes.
Cha
(297,154 posts)process when anyone runs for office.
This is from calimary..
"The attorney for Stormy Daniels, Michael Avenatti, summed it up perfectly the other day."
"People who have nothing to hide - hide nothing."