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kentuck

(111,035 posts)
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 09:09 AM Mar 2018

Do you ever wonder if the international criminal network is stronger than established governments?

...including the United States?

That they have power and wealth that no government can compete with?

That they have the power to create their own foreign policy?

That the FBI and the US Congress do not have the power or authority to make them adhere to the general rules and laws of society?

That the only way to defeat them is for all the nations to work together?

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Do you ever wonder if the international criminal network is stronger than established governments? (Original Post) kentuck Mar 2018 OP
of course, because international criminal networks grow out of corporate power ProfessorPlum Mar 2018 #1
We have been infiltrated. Baitball Blogger Mar 2018 #2
It sounds like the natural evolution of corporations is toward fascism... kentuck Mar 2018 #3
Yup. Baitball Blogger Mar 2018 #4
They live in a different world. kentuck Mar 2018 #5
It was what you learned if you understand critical thinking. Baitball Blogger Mar 2018 #10
The biggest clue? BSdetect Mar 2018 #6
I don't wonder at all: I'm sure. shanny Mar 2018 #7
Except that now, they are taking over the democracies of the world... kentuck Mar 2018 #9
I agree shanny Mar 2018 #11
I just read a book on the money being made from refugees flowing into Greece and Turkey. leftyladyfrommo Mar 2018 #8
Yup. old guy Mar 2018 #12
I think that is a very legitimate question. kentuck Mar 2018 #13

ProfessorPlum

(11,253 posts)
1. of course, because international criminal networks grow out of corporate power
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 09:55 AM
Mar 2018

and corporations are definitely getting more powerful than national governments.

It's been the trend since the 70s, when corporate power starting prying money=speech and all the other nonsense out of our system.

Baitball Blogger

(46,655 posts)
2. We have been infiltrated.
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 09:57 AM
Mar 2018

There is no money in doing things right, so it wasn't difficult to corrupt the process that our forefathers put together to protect "We the People."

kentuck

(111,035 posts)
3. It sounds like the natural evolution of corporations is toward fascism...
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 09:59 AM
Mar 2018

....and criminality. Greed becomes the over-riding factor in everything.

Baitball Blogger

(46,655 posts)
4. Yup.
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 10:16 AM
Mar 2018

We need to wake everybody up. Not because we need to make them aware that this is happening, because they already know. Just that we aren't playing their game anymore. Those in leadership need to stop sitting on their laurels and be prepared to be called on their duplicity. Integrity, character and honesty are qualities that you need to earn every day.

kentuck

(111,035 posts)
5. They live in a different world.
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 10:19 AM
Mar 2018

Beyond rules and laws.

Beyond borders and treaties.

There are no rules. They do whatever they can get away with. They constantly push the envelope.

It is about who has the most money and the most toys.

Governments are created to assist them in their endeavors, nothing more.

Baitball Blogger

(46,655 posts)
10. It was what you learned if you understand critical thinking.
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 10:48 AM
Mar 2018

Question everything. Question the indoctrination that leads to a patriarchal society. Question the military discipline that teaches men and women that duty requires them to follow blindly. Or religious teachings where people are coaxed to use their church leaders as surrogate fathers.

It is disgusting when you see how much of what went off the rails is due to our own societal organizations.

BSdetect

(8,994 posts)
6. The biggest clue?
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 10:21 AM
Mar 2018

More money is exchanged each day than the entire world GDP for a whole year.

Now which government can monitor that fully?

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
7. I don't wonder at all: I'm sure.
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 10:22 AM
Mar 2018

Corporations and wealthy individuals can cross borders to hide their money, evade taxes and duck all consequences of their actions, and governments which try to rein them in are powerless--if they are interested at all.

tRump is a perfect example--he's been pulling this crap his whole life, working with the mob here and abroad, laundering money, etc. For him it is standard operating procedure, which is at least partly why he sees the investigation as a witch hunt -"what's the big deal?"

It is going to be very interesting to see just what kind of malfeasance is laid bare, and what if anything is done about it.

kentuck

(111,035 posts)
9. Except that now, they are taking over the democracies of the world...
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 10:26 AM
Mar 2018

including our own.

They were not happy with just their own world of crime and deceit, now they want to control whatever is left over.

Which is also, why it is such a gargantuan task for Robert Mueller to tackle. We would need a thousand Robert Muellers to get to the bottom of these criminal enterprises.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
11. I agree
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 10:58 AM
Mar 2018

except I think they have always been here, under the radar, and have been left to flourish.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,861 posts)
8. I just read a book on the money being made from refugees flowing into Greece and Turkey.
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 10:23 AM
Mar 2018

Those profiteers are controlling just about everything. They just pay off or kill people that try to get in the way.

I wonder how decent people are ever going to survive this onslaught of complete moral emptiness.

old guy

(3,283 posts)
12. Yup.
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 10:59 AM
Mar 2018

I have voiced this thought myself. I seriously wonder if our "justice" system is capable of handling the increasing assaults on our Republic.

kentuck

(111,035 posts)
13. I think that is a very legitimate question.
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 11:03 AM
Mar 2018

Trump and his associates are not afraid of suffering any consequences for their crimes.

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