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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow can anyone not see that something really sinister is going on?
Tillerson fired after crictizing Russian poisoning and Devin Nunes shuts down the House Russia investigation.
I know people are stupid, but Jesus Christ: Wake Up!
dchill
(38,434 posts)dameatball
(7,392 posts)ThoughtCriminal
(14,046 posts)is much brighter than Trump's supporters. Which also answers the OP.
ProfessorGAC
(64,830 posts)That's ESPECIALLY true for those who voted for "it" in Nov '16, and still support him. The others who have had second thoughts, less so.
Maggiemayhem
(807 posts)poboy2
(2,078 posts)30% will support it. This whole western democracy thing could be over soon.
bdamomma
(63,791 posts)get in the streets and stop this shit now. I hope Theresa May kicks Russia to the curb about the poisoning/s. Putin has small man syndrome.
Wednesdays
(17,308 posts)Torches and pitchforks aren't really effective against tanks and tactical nukes.
bdamomma
(63,791 posts)to say this but tanks and nukes??? to confront the people??? That would be a humanitarian crisis. You have to remember people mobilized together at airports to let those people come into the country during tRump's immature ban.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,102 posts)If EVERY SINGLE PERSON on DU hit the streets tomorrow with signs, it probably wouldn't even make HL News.
dalton99a
(81,391 posts)kairos12
(12,841 posts)uponit7771
(90,301 posts)Skittles
(153,111 posts)orangecrush
(19,400 posts)unblock
(52,115 posts)other than that there's a lot of generally pro-russia and pro-autocratic things going on, so of course they're going to line up from time to time.
but i think donnie's been actively looking for a replacement for state for at least a couple weeks and it seem fairly clear donnie had decided to fire him well before that comment about russia and the poisoning.
and nunes shutting down the "investigation" was part of the plan from day one, it was always a sham. they wanted the illusion of oversight, and those damn democrats took the opportunity to do some actual digging and leaking of at least some of the findings. so they had to shut it down, it had long outlived its propaganda usefulness and had become merely a danger to their cover-up.
iluvtennis
(19,832 posts)Any employee/staff member deserves the respect of being told in person by the person they report to that they are being let go.
Trump disrespected Tillerson by tweeting it. Just like he disrespected Comey with Comey finding out about it on TV.
What an ass. Karma (in the name of Mueller) is coming to take care of him though.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)we here knew this was coming. Malignant Narcissist's w. hen cornered lash out. Trump has decided that no matter what,it is going to be my way or the highway .
Folks,it is all about the money,and Donnie is going to take as much as he can.
TNLib
(1,819 posts)Policy from the white house and the GOP is more designed to help Russia and China. Scary times we are living in.
Loubee
(165 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I'm not going to confuse an incompetent narcissist with a sinister plan.
Barney Fife is more sinister than idiot Trump; but also a class act, a Rhodes Scholar and man of letters compared to idiot Trump.
brush
(53,738 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Putin may or may not be an evil genius playing Trump for a fool, but that concept runs counter to the prevailing sentiment I'm reading on this thread that Trump himself is an evil genius.
Maybe he is a mastermind... Wiley E. Coyote was a Super-Genius, and nothing he ever did back-fired on him.
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)Poiuyt
(18,112 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)And Wiley E. Coyote placed a butt-load of orders from Acme. And his plans were super-genius on paper. Trump will be fooled by a painting of a door he walks into. And the painting is close to finish.
fierywoman
(7,668 posts)nini
(16,672 posts)They've bought the 'fake news' crap hook, line and sinker.
I'm not sure some of them will ever accept the fact they've been railroaded.
DownriverDem
(6,226 posts)but what can we do? The voters gave it all to trump and the repubs. The Dems are the minority party. They have no power even though many folks think they do.
camelfan
(130 posts)the electoral college gave the executive branch to Trump. The voters gave it to Hillary.
triron
(21,984 posts)gave it to Trump.
Thirty by 30
(34 posts)Like the twice-a-year switch to and from Daylight Saving Time. WHY is this still a thing????
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"Like the twice-a-year switch to and from Daylight Saving Time. ..."
Or telling time itself. Or national borders. Imaginary shams... all of em, I tells ya!
olegramps
(8,200 posts)The Federalist Papers that were authored by Madison, Hamilton and Jay were published in newspapers to basically support the voted for the Constriction explored this. It was a compromise to gain support for the ratification. The attempts amend this procedure have been met at nearly every election by the losing party, who have won the popular vote, but lost the election. The party that wins can't go against what put them in office creating an impossible Catch 22 situation. It appears that the only way would be for the citizens to massively protest and demand the election by be determined by vote count.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)marching on Washington...
nadine_mn
(3,702 posts)And more evidence of how popular he is
Honestly I'm starting to feel like nothing matters...Congress will do whatever they need to in order to keep their idiot in office.
TheBlackAdder
(28,165 posts)yonder
(9,656 posts)It makes sense and November's election is bearing down on us. Many folks here have posted he's been looking to force a boost to the GOP's chances by doing that very thing. Damn, I hope you're wrong.
2left4u
(186 posts)You would have to be a complete fucking idiot (or just a Republican) to not ask yourself how and why did we elected Putin into the Whitehouse.
tavernier
(12,368 posts)and pound that GONG so hard that it breaks in half.
Dread Pirate Roberts
(1,896 posts)You gotta have your priorities. All this confusing Russia stuff. But did you hear that guy sing?
lancelyons
(988 posts)Nothing we can do about it now.
GOP is strong arming it.. They dont care and may be successful at pushing through their changes... Democrats are not able to do anything about it. Nothing until new voting is done in November.
If we dont take that house / senate there wont be any changes to this for another 2 years.
If GOP where smart they would force drastic changes.
National Voter ID. Voter clearances through the Government (GOP)
Changing the constitution to allow only republicans tv stations freedom of press..
Getting ownership of all media outlets and then they set the narrative..
etc, etc
They have done this before by changing the powers of the Democrat governor in NC.. They are ruthless and dont care if they kick a democrat around or out of the country.
You better get your asstothe voting booth and vote.
wendyb-NC
(3,300 posts)From very early on. I don't think he has done one thing, to uphold the Constitution. He is a danger to the U.S.
He is not, never was my president.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)I will fulfill my Marine Corps oath to protect this country against all foes foreign and domestic!
Who is with me?!
cwydro
(51,308 posts)You just catching on?
kentuck
(111,051 posts)D23MIURG23
(2,845 posts)but that's become an untenable position. Now I wonder how often they are communicating with him, and whether those communications might be vulnerable to interception.
Clarity2
(1,009 posts)Intercepts. I hope they have a lot of them. I suspect thats why we only found out about trumps meetings with russia spies in oval office and the pompeo/coates meeting with them through russia. They didnt give a heads up and kept it all quiet. Probably to avoid being surveillanced.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,559 posts)...and then there is willfully stupid. Millions of them KNOW, they just can't admit it, even to themselves.
Amaryllis
(9,524 posts)the one we live in. Based on the alternative version of reality they are presented with, they think we are the ones who can't see that something sinister is going on (deep state.) I know someone on that camp; she married a Faux watcher and now lives in the alternative reality universe.
CousinIT
(9,218 posts)That's all, IMO.
1. Discredit Russia investigation any way possible
2. Ditch Tillerson and put a raging warhawk in his place just weeks before meeting w/ N. Korea leader
3. Gin up Nuke War w/ N. Korea
4. Meet w/ Kim Jong Un
5. NUKE the planet (and SUDDENLY NOBODY'S TALKING ABOUT TRUMP/RUSSIA ANYMORE!)
And SHitler is SAVED (while the rest of us and the planet are nuked to ashes)
Think he's above that?
I DON'T. I could be wrong - but I don't put A N Y T H I N G past SHitler.
duforsure
(11,884 posts)... Putin's after trump now, trying to squeeze him into lifting sanctions, or like the other day with Putin's bombing display targeting Florida, or his poisoning people around the world lately, and now turned to threats because he's tired of trump's excuses, he wants the sanctions lifted. I think Putin doesn't want to be further exposed by the Mueller investigation too, so trump will fire Mueller soon I think, for Putin and himself. Tillerson was to buy time maybe, and he blamed him . Trump also has a habit of stop paying his creditors, so is he stiffing his Russian creditors now too? There's a lot more to this then what we know, but with trump expect the worse, and its probably more likely possible.
Clarity2
(1,009 posts)Ive said it many times, but money talks. Economic boycott. It doesnt have to be as extreme as walking out on your jobs, but stopping all discretionary spending until there is a response isnt so hard, when it comes to saving our country.
Wheres the red line? I feel like a frog in a pot slowly having the heat turned up. I think we all do.
We are inundated with news cycling that we cant even keep track of, and even DIGEST before the next story comes out! Things are being done under our noses that we dont even know. Probably the same corruption that occurs with Putin. I mean, basically the tax cut was a money grab by the american oligarchs. Raiding the govt till and giving it to them.
MFM008
(19,803 posts)If I see it.
I KNOW Mueller and his team see it.