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ACLU: The CIA must declassify and release every aspect of Haspel's torture record... (Original Post) herding cats Mar 2018 OP
If Haspel participated in "torture" ...then this person cannot be allowed to be anything.. Stuart G Mar 2018 #1
That should happen, brer cat Mar 2018 #2
It has been published and available to all...from Mother Jones... Stuart G Mar 2018 #3
Was that under her command? brer cat Mar 2018 #4
Good Question. That is why the ACLU is demanding to know if this was under her command. Stuart G Mar 2018 #5
I started digging around after I asked the question. brer cat Mar 2018 #6
I've read she was directly involved in kidnapping Hortensis Mar 2018 #8
And I'm old enough to know about Hogan's Heroes, brer cat Mar 2018 #7

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
1. If Haspel participated in "torture" ...then this person cannot be allowed to be anything..
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 06:24 PM
Mar 2018
Torture is against the law...which law?....The Constitution....Bill of Rights, 8th Ammendment

The Eighth Amendment (Amendment VIII) of the United States Constitution prohibits the federal government from imposing excessive bail, excessive fines, or cruel and unusual punishments.

exact words.......Eighth Amendment...

"Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"


First 10 Amendments were ratified December 15, 1791, and form what is known as the "Bill of Rights."

brer cat

(24,544 posts)
2. That should happen,
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:01 PM
Mar 2018

but I think the odds are overwhelmingly against it. The CIA isn't going to admit torture.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
3. It has been published and available to all...from Mother Jones...
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:05 PM
Mar 2018
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/12/cia-torture-report-abuses-rectal-feeding/

This link is also up in "Editorials & Other Articles." WARNING:very descriptive and awful..yes, if you read all of this, it will make you sick to believe that the U.S.A. was responsible for this under Bush Jr.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
5. Good Question. That is why the ACLU is demanding to know if this was under her command.
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:24 PM
Mar 2018

Stuart G does not know.
...As was said before by Sgt Shultz in "Hogan's Heroes". a 60s TV show......."I know nothing"

Here is info on "Hogan's Heroes"...yes, I am old enough to have seen it in the late 60s..Yes, it is somewhat funny and enjoyable....
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Hogan's Heroes is an American television sitcom set in a German prisoner of war (POW) camp during World War II. It ran for 168 episodes from September 17, 1965, to April 4, 1971, on the CBS network.

brer cat

(24,544 posts)
6. I started digging around after I asked the question.
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:54 PM
Mar 2018

This article is pretty informative on her role:

Haspel’s identity and role in the CIA’s torture program was previously concealed by its classification regime. However, when Haspel was designated deputy director of the agency in February 2017, her role in the program became more clear.

Specifically, Haspel was in charge of the CIA’s “Cat’s Eye,” a secret prison located in Thailand. Haspel allegedly oversaw the daily torture of detained individuals at Cat’s Eye. According to media accounts and the memoirs of former CIA personnel, Haspel was personally involved in the torture of one Zayn Al-Abidin Muhammad Husayn, also known as Abu Zubaydah.


It's interesting that prosecutors in Munich are reviewing a request for an arrest warrant for her. That might put a damper on any enthusiasm to approve her appointment, or it might make them more gung-ho depending on how they feel about torture.

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/prosecutors-reviewing-request-to-issue-arrest-warrant-for-trumps-new-cia-director/

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. I've read she was directly involved in kidnapping
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:57 PM
Mar 2018

people without even a pretense of due process and delivering them to prisons in countries where they could be and were held and tortured, and no doubt murdered, at will.

brer cat

(24,544 posts)
7. And I'm old enough to know about Hogan's Heroes,
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:56 PM
Mar 2018

although it was a favorite of my parents, not mine. I'm an avid reader and never watched much TV.

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