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pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:06 PM Mar 2018

Puppy dies on United after flight attendant insists on him being kept in overhead bin.

What a horrific story. Passengers on the flight could hear the small dog barking in the bin -- till he died.

http://people.com/pets/dog-dies-on-united-flight-overhead-bin/

“The flight attendant told the passenger that her bag was blocking part of the aisle. I could not see it, as I was already in my seat, but it sounded like it was somehow not completely fitting beneath the seat in front of her,” Gremminger says of the encounter. “After the flight attendant asked her to move it above, the woman adamantly refused, communicating her dog was in the bag. There was some back and forth before finally the flight attendant convinced her to move the carrier to the bin above.”

After watching the woman stow her dog, Gremminger says she talked with her seat partner about how “stunned” they were to see a pet be placed in the overhead bin. At this point, Gremminger started to look up information online about whether overhead bins were safe for pets, but was unable to find any information before she had to turn off her phone for takeoff.

While the situation seemed off to Gremminger, she can understand why the owner ultimately decided to follow the flight attendant’s instruction.

“My only thought is that if it had been me, it would have been a hard scenario. The flight attendant is the authority figure, who should be trusted. I was thinking ‘maybe there is an improved ventilation system’ or something of the sorts,” Gremminger says. “Also, the owner had an infant and other daughter. Causing a scene before flight could risk being kicked off the flight. I can only imagine she felt stuck in her decision to comply.”

What Gremminger says haunts her the most about this experience was hearing the canine call out from the overhead bin, once while the plane was taking off and again during several moments of turbulence about thirty minutes into the flight. After this the dog was silent.



https://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/travel/2018/03/13/puppy-dies-after-flight-attendant-insists-stored-overhead-bin/VTwUr1mhDgu7dUkNbwAscL/story.html

“I witnessed a United flight attendant instruct a woman to put her dog carrier with live dog in an overhead bin,” Gremminger said in a Twitter post. “The passenger adamantly pushed back, sharing verbally that her dog was in the bag. The flight attendant continued to ask the passenger to do it, and she eventually complied.”

She said the dog was in a TSA-approved carrier, but the flight attendant still insisted the carrier be placed in the bin.

“There was no sound as we landed and opened his kennel,” another passenger, June Lara, wrote in a Facebook post. “There was no movement as his family called his name. I held her baby as the mother attempted to resuscitate their 10 month old puppy.”

The dog’s owner was left in tears. Lara’s post said the puppy’s name was Papacito.

“I assumed there must be ventilation [in the overhead bin] as surely the flight attendant wouldn’t have instructed this otherwise,” Gremminger wrote. “I heard the dog barking a little and we didn’t know it was a cry for help.”

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Puppy dies on United after flight attendant insists on him being kept in overhead bin. (Original Post) pnwmom Mar 2018 OP
Sorry I dont buy it Beaverhausen Mar 2018 #1
United Airlines issued a statement, according to the article: pnwmom Mar 2018 #2
The Points Guy Beaverhausen Mar 2018 #5
Hes got he most popular blog w advice for frequent flyers. bettyellen Mar 2018 #13
Sorry. The Boston Globe also reported that this happened. pnwmom Mar 2018 #3
Read more and get back to us. n/t USALiberal Mar 2018 #4
The details in the Boston Globe story are even worse. n/t pnwmom Mar 2018 #7
Why would anyone agree to that? utopian Mar 2018 #6
Read the Boston Globe story. It's even worse than the Fox. n/t pnwmom Mar 2018 #8
The way they've shrunk the seats to get more in, maybe even TSA approved won't fit? SharonAnn Mar 2018 #17
Heartbreaking. I have no words... just anger and tears. NurseJackie Mar 2018 #9
I brought my little dog on the plane with me to France from San Diego. BigmanPigman Mar 2018 #10
I'm not sure which is more appalling Raven123 Mar 2018 #11
I would NEVER take one of my dogs MurrayDelph Mar 2018 #12
Poor puppy lunamagica Mar 2018 #14
And the traumatized family -- especially the little girl. pnwmom Mar 2018 #15
The thing is that...OK, I haven't flown for decades, and when I did I was a kid and lunamagica Mar 2018 #16
That mom was also traveling with an infant and an 8 year old. She finally made the fatal mistake pnwmom Mar 2018 #18
Mine too. Flying alone with a child, an infant and a dog? lunamagica Mar 2018 #19

Beaverhausen

(24,470 posts)
1. Sorry I dont buy it
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:09 PM
Mar 2018

No way a flight attendant did this.

Ok ok give me a break. I just find it hard to believe. For one thing hard to believe the flight attendant did that, and hard to believe the passenger side. And hard to believe the owner would’ve done that.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
2. United Airlines issued a statement, according to the article:
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:11 PM
Mar 2018

A United Airlines spokesperson sent a statement to The Points Guy:

“This was a tragic accident that should never have occurred, as pets should never be placed in the overhead bin. We assume full responsibility for this tragedy and express our deepest condolences to the family and are committed to supporting them.

We are thoroughly investigating what occurred to prevent this from ever happening again.”

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
3. Sorry. The Boston Globe also reported that this happened.
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:13 PM
Mar 2018
https://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/travel/2018/03/13/puppy-dies-after-flight-attendant-insists-stored-overhead-bin/VTwUr1mhDgu7dUkNbwAscL/story.html

“I witnessed a United flight attendant instruct a woman to put her dog carrier with live dog in an overhead bin,” Gremminger said in a Twitter post. “The passenger adamantly pushed back, sharing verbally that her dog was in the bag. The flight attendant continued to ask the passenger to do it, and she eventually complied.”

She said the dog was in a TSA-approved carrier, but the flight attendant still insisted the carrier be placed in the bin.

“There was no sound as we landed and opened his kennel,” another passenger, June Lara, wrote in a Facebook post. “There was no movement as his family called his name. I held her baby as the mother attempted to resuscitate their 10 month old puppy.”

The dog’s owner was left in tears. Lara’s post said the puppy’s name was Papacito.

“I assumed there must be ventilation [in the overhead bin] as surely the flight attendant wouldn’t have instructed this otherwise,” Gremminger wrote. “I heard the dog barking a little and we didn’t know it was a cry for help.”

utopian

(1,093 posts)
6. Why would anyone agree to that?
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:15 PM
Mar 2018

There has to be more to this story. If it were my dog, I'd have pitched a fit. Plus, there are carriers designed to fit under the seat. I'll be interested to see how this pans out.

BigmanPigman

(51,585 posts)
10. I brought my little dog on the plane with me to France from San Diego.
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:20 PM
Mar 2018

There was a 4 hour wait on the tarmac at JFK and no reason for it. I couldn't get off the plane as planned and barely made it to my connecting flight. This was in 2005 before a law was written that you can not do this to passengers. My dog unzipped the bag on the floor from inside the bag when I finally had to use the bathroom on the plane and a fellow passenger had to keep her from getting out. I ran to the connecting flight and took her out on my lap since she was terrified (I hadn't given her the sleep meds since we couldn't get off the plane). The attendant saw her on my lap (7 pounds and asleep) and told me she was disrupting the passengers (who were also sleeping) and to put her in her bag or she would be "red flagged" and put under the plane. We were over the ocean so what the hell was she talking about? A nice older lady was next to me and kept an eye out for the mean attendant while my dog slept on my lap all covered and hidden. On the way back from France 5 weeks later guess who was the flight attendant?!?!? What are the odds? Yes, the same person. Fortunately I had another dog lover, older woman next to me who kept an eye out for the entire trip home.

If that person doesn't file a law suit I bet a lot of animal rights activists will be on their ass in a heartbeat! If she is the same person I encountered twice I would happily testify against her.

Raven123

(4,829 posts)
11. I'm not sure which is more appalling
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:31 PM
Mar 2018

The inhumane idea if placing that poor defenseless animal in an an overhead bin or the ignorance necessary to believe it was adequately ventilated.

I cannot believe there are no protocols in place that would address this situation.

MurrayDelph

(5,294 posts)
12. I would NEVER take one of my dogs
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:48 PM
Mar 2018

on an airline (Hell, I don't like to put me on one anymore).

I regularly commute between Portland, Oregon and Los Angeles, and often take one or more of my dogs. We drive. We stay at LaQuinta. If I am driving by myself (as opposed to with my wife), I keep a list of the PetCo/PetSmart locations, so if I have to make a pit stop I can take them in with me.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
15. And the traumatized family -- especially the little girl.
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 08:58 PM
Mar 2018

Even other passengers were traumatized, because they're kicking themselves for not sticking up for the family. Everyone knew it was wrong.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
16. The thing is that...OK, I haven't flown for decades, and when I did I was a kid and
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:07 PM
Mar 2018

didn't pay attention to the overhead bins. I think I would have thought the puppy would be safe there, especially if a flight attendant told me it was OK.

But to hear the poor little creature crying and do nothing? The thought of how long the puppy suffered, and how he cried...that kills me.

If I was the owner, I couldn't forgive myself, and those cries would haunt me.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
18. That mom was also traveling with an infant and an 8 year old. She finally made the fatal mistake
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:17 PM
Mar 2018

of trusting that the flight attendant knew more than she did.

My heart goes out to her and her daughter.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
19. Mine too. Flying alone with a child, an infant and a dog?
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:53 PM
Mar 2018

Sounds like a nightmare. Yes, I feel for them.

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