It seems now both sides claim a closely lost election is rigged.

[elocs]

I don't know how we can have confidence in our elections anymore with that level of suspicion.
Apparently elections are only fair and honest if you win, and if you don't they were fixed.
Donald Trump certainly holds that philosophy.
In the end there is no substitute for getting your people out to vote, especially if you are in the minority. I am willing to bet there were voters on the Left who just stayed home because they figured Lamb was going to win anyways.
This is what gets me about elections in this county: when people in nations that get the right to vote for the first time they will often travel or walk miles to vote, sometimes putting themselves at risk even when they have little choice in candidates, but here people are put out if they need to go a mile to vote or wait for more than 15 minutes.

[GusBob]

1. Trump ass called it rigged before he won

Before he won he said it would not accept the results

Now he is still fixated on the 3 million votes he lost the general count by

GOTV is the best way to beat the Russians. Might be the only way

[FakeNoose]

9. He surely did, and most of us heard him say

Anybody who watched the 3rd debate heard Cheeto claim the election would be rigged.



Was this proof of collusion, before the fact?

[Stallion]

2. Yeah but the 2 Precincts Still Out 4 Hours Later are Republican

that breeds suspicion since all other votes have been in for an hour

[BannonsLiver]

4. EXTra Time needed to cook the results

[Igel]

8. No, the suspicion was there.

It's not breeding. It was merely dozing.

[ProudLib72]

3. There are ways to avoid suspicion but they refuse to make the necessary changes

What is so difficult about paper ballots and hand counts? Just that it takes a little more time? That is not justification when there is such a high level of suspicion. You would think they would say, "Gee, we want to make voters feel confident so we will do whatever it takes".

[radius777]

6. Exaclty. GOP does all it can to prevent election reform,

they are the ones who want suspicion in the system, to suppress votes.

False equivalency (spreading the narrative that both parties are the same), voter suppression and gerrymandering is the modern-day GOP's recipe for "success".

[mythology]

7. Except there is no level of suspicion other than for those who aren't going to believe evidence

Seriously there is exactly zero evidence of vote fraud. None. Not for the in person fraud Republicans claim is true and not for the mass scale hacking people here claim is true.

All the evidence points against it. So why should I believe that people who refuse to look at the actual factual evidence wouldn't just come up with some other unsubstantiated nonsense?

[Igel]

10. That would allay few fears.

Chicago was notorious for voter corruption.

It used paper ballots.

Vote early, vote often, and vote in pencil so we can correct your mistakes.

Russia uses paper ballots.

The elections in Crimea used paper ballots.

Kenya in the elections that were tossed by their supreme court used paper ballots.

Give us paper ballots and the suspicion will continue. But it'll be a win.

[ProudLib72]

11. Ok, you have a point

My main argument, however, is that they could do something, anything, but they refuse. Discussion closed (actually never begun). The thing is, though, that it is going to hurt the republicans more than Dems. If voter confidence fails, it is more likely that republicans will stay at home. As we have seen recently, turnout for Dems is a lot higher than it has been.

[LexVegas]

5. There is not equivalence between the two parties on this issue. nt