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SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 09:17 PM Mar 2018

Astronaut's DNA No Longer Matches His Identical Twin's After Year Spent in Space

http://ktla.com/2018/03/14/astronauts-dna-no-longer-matches-his-identical-twins-after-year-spent-in-space-nasa-finds/


Spending a year in space not only changes your outlook, it transforms your genes.

Preliminary results from NASA's Twins Study reveal that 7% of astronaut Scott Kelly's genes did not return to normal after his return to Earth two years ago.

The study looks at what happened to Kelly before, during and after he spent one year aboard the International Space Station through an extensive comparison with his identical twin, Mark, who remained on Earth.

NASA has learned that the formerly identical twins are no longer genetically the same.



Science is cool.

Sid
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Astronaut's DNA No Longer Matches His Identical Twin's After Year Spent in Space (Original Post) SidDithers Mar 2018 OP
Yes Science is cool, but changing one's DNA may not be so cool still_one Mar 2018 #1
I wonder KansasKali Mar 2018 #2
Has the DNA of which one changed? GeorgeHayduke Mar 2018 #10
Wow! How interesting rurallib Mar 2018 #3
It has been Duppers Mar 2018 #15
DNA changes all the time. cab67 Mar 2018 #18
aren't there other causes of gene 'change?' bigtree Mar 2018 #4
they said they tested him before, during, after, getagrip_already Mar 2018 #7
I guess my point bigtree Mar 2018 #8
Long-term exposure to radiation from cosmic rays is the most likely explanation (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Mar 2018 #12
That would be my guess as well Maynar Mar 2018 #24
As G.W. Bush said after 45's inauguration, "That's some weird shit." VOX Mar 2018 #5
His identical twin brother, Mark, husband to Gabrielle Giffords, spent 54 days in space, too Brother Buzz Mar 2018 #6
All of our biological processes evolved to operate at the bottom of a gravity well... forgotmylogin Mar 2018 #9
Thanks for all this! Might you be able to address my post #16? nt LAS14 Mar 2018 #20
I'm not a geneticist... forgotmylogin Mar 2018 #21
Aw, poor little spider. calimary Mar 2018 #22
Kind of weird. Wonder how that happens. mountain grammy Mar 2018 #11
It's cool and scary ellie Mar 2018 #13
Scary! IluvPitties Mar 2018 #14
OK. So a gene in one cell changes. Do the genes in 7% of the other cells... LAS14 Mar 2018 #16
A very good reason not to go into space. Nitram Mar 2018 #17
Folks will throw stones Duppers Mar 2018 #19
Wow iluvtennis Mar 2018 #23
Alien Evolution lame54 Mar 2018 #25
I wonder vicman Mar 2018 #26

KansasKali

(105 posts)
2. I wonder
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 09:30 PM
Mar 2018

I wonder if anyone has studied the children of astronauts who were conceived after they returned from space? Are their genes different?

GeorgeHayduke

(1,227 posts)
10. Has the DNA of which one changed?
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 09:58 PM
Mar 2018

The astronaut or the astronauts progeny?

You could measure change in the astronats genetic code, as has been done in this article, but not necessarily of their children. Homologous recombination at conception kind of messes that opportunity up with some other parents DNA.

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
3. Wow! How interesting
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 09:31 PM
Mar 2018

gives insights into the rigors of space travel and how it just isn't simple.

Am I wrong to think this could also be tied to understanding evolution? Actually seeing DNA change?

cab67

(2,992 posts)
18. DNA changes all the time.
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 10:20 PM
Mar 2018

The amount of difference in this case is striking, but unless the differences get passed on to future generations and spread through the population, it doesn’t really mean anything for evolution.

I haven’t read the paper yet, but my initial guess is that most of the changes to the astronaut’s DNA are selectively neutral.

bigtree

(85,986 posts)
4. aren't there other causes of gene 'change?'
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 09:37 PM
Mar 2018

...that may not be associated with space?

They mentioned 'nutrition.' That's something which could have triggered the change here on Earth, something such as a bacterial infection could alter results by these amounts.

getagrip_already

(14,708 posts)
7. they said they tested him before, during, after,
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 09:50 PM
Mar 2018

so presumably they know when the changes occurred. They likely tested his brother over the same time periods and know the degree of relative change between the samples.

bigtree

(85,986 posts)
8. I guess my point
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 09:53 PM
Mar 2018

...is that it's not something that just occurs in space, at least this level of gene change.

Is it 'space' or is it some other organic cause?

VOX

(22,976 posts)
5. As G.W. Bush said after 45's inauguration, "That's some weird shit."
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 09:37 PM
Mar 2018

DNA is getting pretty basic. Messing it up cannot be good.

forgotmylogin

(7,527 posts)
21. I'm not a geneticist...
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 10:29 PM
Mar 2018

but it kind of makes sense--if you think of how DNA chain structures are like a ladder that only fits together in certain ways. I can imagine it's possible that removing gravity might cause the chains to pull together randomly or in different ways than they would on Earth.

The metaphor I can come up with is trying to put together an IKEA bookcase in zero-G without the assistance of gravity holding everything in place where you set it down!

I wonder if it is only the DNA in new cells that were created during the year spent on the space station that are different? Over the course of seven years, every cell in your body is replaced, theoretically making you an entirely different person.

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
16. OK. So a gene in one cell changes. Do the genes in 7% of the other cells...
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 10:17 PM
Mar 2018

...change in exactly the same way???? How come????

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
19. Folks will throw stones
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 10:21 PM
Mar 2018

at me but why send people into space, exposing their bodies to certain unavoidable damage, when robots can do everything humans can and at huge substantial savings too.

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