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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 09:16 PM Mar 2018

WAPO ****BREAKING**** President Trump has decided to remove H.R. McMaster







President Trump has decided to remove H.R. McMaster as his national security adviser and is actively discussing potential replacements, according to five people with knowledge of the plans, preparing to deliver yet another jolt to the senior ranks of his administration.

Trump is now comfortable with ousting McMaster, with whom he never personally gelled, but is willing to take time executing the move because he wants to ensure both that the three-star Army general is not humiliated and that there is a strong successor lined up, these people said.

The turbulence is part of a broader potential shake-up under consideration by Trump that is likely to include senior officials at the White House, where staffers are gripped by fear and un­certainty as they await the next move from an impulsive president who enjoys stoking conflict.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-decides-to-remove-national-security-adviser-and-others-may-follow/2018/03/15/fea2ebae-285c-11e8-bc72-077aa4dab9ef_story.html?utm_term=.b9a3a4a78336



This is like the Night Of The Long Knives
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WAPO ****BREAKING**** President Trump has decided to remove H.R. McMaster (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 OP
another one ? lunasun Mar 2018 #1
...bites the dust? dchill Mar 2018 #6
Someone needs to tell Rachel Dem2 Mar 2018 #2
Shes on it Auggie Mar 2018 #12
yeah Dem2 Mar 2018 #16
I came here because she was all over it. lunatica Mar 2018 #19
it's all a matter of timing... Dem2 Mar 2018 #25
Goddamn Matthew28 Mar 2018 #3
Don't even refer bdamomma Mar 2018 #22
Yes. He's a fucking traitor to the U.S. and he MUST be prosecuted to the fullest! Bastard!! C Moon Mar 2018 #40
the last semi sane man obamanut2012 Mar 2018 #4
I was willing to give him a bit of a pass, being active duty and all, but he clearly swallowed niyad Mar 2018 #46
Oh God, does that mean bolton?????? spanone Mar 2018 #5
Probably MissB Mar 2018 #8
Can you imagine how much cheaper they would have been 18 months ago?? dameatball Mar 2018 #10
Evidently Trump is considering Bolton. lunatica Mar 2018 #21
Bolton. I see war on the horizon Wwcd Mar 2018 #29
impeachment requires the House Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2018 #34
Thanks. Yes it would require a change in majority to impeach. Wwcd Mar 2018 #37
the Constitution Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2018 #38
Nothing about impeachment during wartime then. Wwcd Mar 2018 #41
not that I can find Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2018 #43
Sigh. As I posted elsewhere, McMaster is not out YET, and stories he'll be out soon have been highplainsdem Mar 2018 #7
He'll be gone by Easter. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #9
Could be as early as tomorrow maybe Kelly too lunasun Mar 2018 #18
Which is April Fools Day this year MiniMe Mar 2018 #23
The Wash Post says the Moron just told Kelly BigmanPigman Mar 2018 #35
That's exactly what I said earlier. It's like a bloodless night of the long knives but smirkymonkey Mar 2018 #11
When I read that McMaster was a friend of Jimmy Carter I knew he was sane/ DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #15
Twitler is on a rampage workinclasszero Mar 2018 #13
The subject doesnt match the story Renew Deal Mar 2018 #14
The subject line's been corrected now. highplainsdem Mar 2018 #20
Three National Security Advisors in a little over a year. Yavin4 Mar 2018 #17
The US had a good run of it while it lasted. RKP5637 Mar 2018 #24
good catrose Mar 2018 #26
He wants an echo chamber. OnlinePoker Mar 2018 #27
From the article Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2018 #28
Good Lord! Tatiana Mar 2018 #30
Sarah H just tweeted otherwise- He is safe. poboy2 Mar 2018 #31
He' going to War. If he can. zentrum Mar 2018 #32
McMaster not sufficiently subservient and boot-licking. Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #33
Anyone who might quakerboy Mar 2018 #36
I wonder how many of the employees fired by Trump will write tell-all books? Sophia4 Mar 2018 #39
Rearranging the Deck Chairs on the Titantic McKim Mar 2018 #42
Let's guess the replacement... Hassler Mar 2018 #44
Whatever happened to all MY generals? kskiska Mar 2018 #45

dchill

(38,472 posts)
6. ...bites the dust?
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 09:23 PM
Mar 2018

Steve walks warily down the street with the brim pulled way down low
Ain't no sound but the sound of his feet, machine gun's ready to go
Are you ready? Hey, are you ready for this?
Are you hanging on the edge of your seat?
Out of the doorway the bullets rip to the sound of the beat, Yeah

Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
And another one gone
And another one gone
Another one bites the dust
Hey, I'm gonna get you too
Another one bites the dust

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
25. it's all a matter of timing...
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 10:17 PM
Mar 2018

when it comes to breaking news I was watching her as I posted the 1st message...

bdamomma

(63,837 posts)
22. Don't even refer
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 09:54 PM
Mar 2018

to this jerk as pResident, he has made a mockery out of the title and put us on a very unpredictable path.

niyad

(113,265 posts)
46. I was willing to give him a bit of a pass, being active duty and all, but he clearly swallowed
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 01:56 PM
Mar 2018

the kool-ade, so I have no pity for him.

dameatball

(7,397 posts)
10. Can you imagine how much cheaper they would have been 18 months ago??
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 09:29 PM
Mar 2018

I never buy at the right time....dammitt.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
29. Bolton. I see war on the horizon
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 10:26 PM
Mar 2018

Can a sitting President be removed during wartime?
Anyone know the law on this?

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,328 posts)
34. impeachment requires the House
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 10:59 PM
Mar 2018

Since this House of Representatives has a majority comprised of co-conspirators, impeachment has next to no chance before 2019, and then only if we take back the House. The Senate likewise is majority co-conspirators, so there could be no conviction before we take that back as well.

This may be the beginning of the shit-storm I warned my children to expect after the 2016 "election".

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
37. Thanks. Yes it would require a change in majority to impeach.
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 11:14 PM
Mar 2018

But I wondered if the 2018 election brings that change & makes impeachment a definate & quick reality for Trump, woul he create a war to save himself.
I'm not sure on the law thay may state that a sitting President cannot be impeached during wartime.

I recall hearing about this sometime ago but don't eemember if it is a law trump would use to save himself or if it was more of an accepted protocol to prevent further chaos in the govt, in a time of war

Have I confused the simple question or made it clearer?
Lol..i can do that from time to time..
Thanks

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,328 posts)
38. the Constitution
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 11:34 PM
Mar 2018

The Constitution is the supreme law of the land and here's what it says:


The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleii


Note there is nothing said about when impeachment may be brought.


The House of Representatives shall choose their speaker and other officers; and shall have the sole power of impeachment.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articlei



The Senate shall have the sole power to try all impeachments. When sitting for that purpose, they shall be on oath or affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no person shall be convicted without the concurrence of two thirds of the members present.

Judgment in cases of impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States: but the party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to indictment, trial, judgment and punishment, according to law.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articlei


Hermit-The-Prog

(33,328 posts)
43. not that I can find
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 12:09 AM
Mar 2018

Best I can tell the House can vote for impeachment any time they want.

Let's just hope they want to do it before TrumPutin gets us into a war. (He can't declare one, but he could sure get us into one with some stupid move).

Every soldier has a duty to disobey unlawful orders, but that's not enough to save us from that spoiled brat.

highplainsdem

(48,970 posts)
7. Sigh. As I posted elsewhere, McMaster is not out YET, and stories he'll be out soon have been
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 09:24 PM
Mar 2018

circulating for quite a while. Along with stories that several other top officials will be out soon.

It's simply incorrect to say that McMaster is out, at this point.

As for Trump having "decided" to remove him -- how many times have we heard these stories about McMaster and Kelly and Sessions and other officials?

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
18. Could be as early as tomorrow maybe Kelly too
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 09:49 PM
Mar 2018

Times reports, “Mr. Trump could act as early as Friday to remove one or more of them, though the president is known to enjoy keeping people off kilter
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
11. That's exactly what I said earlier. It's like a bloodless night of the long knives but
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 09:31 PM
Mar 2018

I think the effects are going to be pretty much the same. He is going to replace the bad with the worse. And then the shit is really going to hit the fan.

Yavin4

(35,437 posts)
17. Three National Security Advisors in a little over a year.
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 09:42 PM
Mar 2018

Steinbrenner wasn't this bad with Yankee managers.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,922 posts)
28. From the article
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 10:23 PM
Mar 2018

"The president has complained that McMaster is too rigid and that his briefings go on too long and seem irrelevant."

Translated: He's to detailed for the Dotards short attention span.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
33. McMaster not sufficiently subservient and boot-licking.
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 10:57 PM
Mar 2018

It says "The turbulence is part of a broader potential shake-up under consideration by Trump that is likely to include senior officials at the White House...." There are some senior officials left?

This is a nightmare. He's just playing a game, like his reality show. Hire this one (with no aforethought or analysis), then fire him. Fire someone else...then hire someone else. Then fire someone else, but let her "resign." Then fire someone else.

A nightmare.

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
36. Anyone who might
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 11:11 PM
Mar 2018

Say "no, thats illegal, we will not do that, and there will be consequences if we do"

Trump will be our first president to end up in jail. Unless Putin decides to lower his exposure and send him some of his special tea first.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
42. Rearranging the Deck Chairs on the Titantic
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 12:06 AM
Mar 2018

This is rearranging the deck chairs on the Titantic. Trump is circling the drain in a whirlpool of chaos and insanity. Soon his mental illness will be too much for the country. The instability is really too dangerous for our economy and for our country. It is time to end this administration!

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