"If you keep fucking with Mr. Trump, we know where you live."

[pnwmom]

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jasonleopold/if-you-keep-fucking-with-mr-trump-we-know-where-you-live?utm_term=.dddKGXMg11#.md0GkmqrQQ

When Donald Trump’s casino business went bankrupt in 2009, a lawyer whose clients stood to lose more than a billion dollars told police and the FBI that he got a menacing phone call from a man with a thick New York accent who threatened his family.

“My name is Carmine. I don’t know why you’re fucking with Mr. Trump but if you keep fucking with Mr. Trump, we know where you live and we’re going to your house for your wife and kids,” the caller said, according to the account that the attorney, Kristopher Hansen, gave to the Holmdel police department in New Jersey. Hansen speculated that the caller was Trump’s bodyguard.

According to FBI case notes, the phone call to Hansen was made at 2:05 p.m. on Feb. 18, 2009, from a New York City telephone booth located across the street from the Ed Sullivan Theater, where Trump was a guest that day on The Late Show With David Letterman. Three former employees of the show told BuzzFeed News that guests were asked to arrive in advance of the 4:30 taping, though accounts differ on just how far in advance.

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A White House spokesperson also did not respond to phone calls and emails seeking comment, but Trump’s longtime personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, emailed a statement: "I am not personally aware of any individual who provided security to Mr. Trump with that name. I am also not aware of any inquiry made by the FBI, or any agency, regarding this matter. Factually, this scenario makes no sense at all. I would describe this as complete and utter nonsense."

BuzzFeed News obtained the police report, which states Hansen’s name, through an open records request. The FBI documents — both the original, heavily redacted versions and the second version, which included the transcript of the phone call — were released through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit, brought jointly with Ryan Shapiro, an MIT doctoral student. (Go here to read how BuzzFeed News analyzed the documents and pieced together what happened.)

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[dalton99a]

1. Carmine

The Trump Organization declined to comment on whether it ever employed a bodyguard named Carmine. (Trump’s personal bodyguard for the past 16 years is Keith Schiller. He did not respond to calls and emails seeking comment.)

[pnwmom]

3. Carmine was also a fictional boss in The Sopranos. n/t

[dalton99a]

4. Yep.

[Heartstrings]

7. First thing that came to mind. nt

[gratuitous]

8. Well, sure

If I ever made threatening phone call, the very first thing I'd do is say, "My name is gratuitous," you know, as a courtesy, before getting to the whole "kill you, kill your family, kill everything you love" part. It's the mark of a considerate death threat.

[Chemisse]

11. Good point.

To someone as stupid as Trump, thoughtfully introducing himself as Carmine would be enough to ensure nobody thought that HE made that phone call.

[calimary]

17. Carmine? Or maybe John Baron? Or John Miller?

Although, with the attitude I've seen displayed in public by Michael Cohen, I suspect him too.

[Squinch]

27. Carmine Dennison?

[dchill]

2. John Barron, aka "Carmine."

[DFW]

5. I was gonna say.......

Some paid gangster muscle is going to make a threatening phone call and use his real name? And do what, send a business card in the mail while he's at it?

[mr_lebowski]

6. For sure ... I lol'd when he said 'we don't employ anyone with that name', like that means SHIT

[triron]

10. Bottom line: Pretty laughable to believe anything that comes from the Trump org.

[Squinch]

29. I laughed at the idea of the death threatener introducing himself at all.

[Squinch]

28. First, introductions. Then, tea. Only then should you make the threat.

There are standards that MUST be met.

[BigmanPigman]

18. John Miller is another one of his aliases

from that time period. He used to call into talk radio and use John Miller or Barron. I wonder if that is why he called his kid Barron? He could blame the kid for phony phone calls in the future. He is so stupid that his voice, choice of words and distinctive phrases were so obviously his. He really is a fucking moron!

[dchill]

19. I think he just likes the name. Sounds like nobility.

He's so pretentious.

[BigmanPigman]

20. I know someone who legally changed his name from

something similar/common like "James Smith" to Barron Von (Something French?...I can't remember). He liked the regal sound of it.

[dchill]

21. Ha! What kind of toilet paper did he switch to?

[Cha]

22. I read that trump said that's

where he got his son's name..

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May 25, 2016 - Less than two weeks after denying that he ever pretended to be a publicist named John Miller or John Barron in promoting his business affairs with reporters, Trump admitted on ... He added “I used the name Barron” and explained that was the inspiration for the name of his youngest son, Barron Trump.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/26/donald-trump-publicist-alias-jimmy-kimmel-live

It sounds like barren to me.

Another article says.. ".. he's been obsessed with using the aliases John miller and john barron since 1980.. his early foray into media manipulation"

[BigmanPigman]

24. Oh my god...He did use it for his kid after all!

I just has a scary thought...am I starting to think like him?!?! I will have to go jump off of a bridge if that is true. I am actually starting to feel sorry for the son Barron. How do you get rid of tainted DNA?

That was from early in 2016...why didn't people realize then that this guy is an insane fucking moron?

[Cha]

25. No.. you are not starting to

think like him.. you just know how fucked up he is.

The US media tried to normalize trump at every turn while Demonizing Hillary.. that with all the Russian interference and their enablers.. here we are.

Many of us did realize it.. that's why we went into extreme shock on the so called "election" night.

And, why we hang on to every word that looks like there a chance to take him down.

Conor Lamb!

[ProudLib72]

30. In elementary school, there was a girl in my class named Orphie

She lived next door to me. She was adopted. Being so young, I didn't think much of it. So what, she had a sort of strange name, big deal. Evidently, my parents were friends with her parents (again, something I was not really aware of). Years later, my mother told me how, as soon as Orphie turned 18, she legally changed her name to Michelle. My mother said that the name "Orphie" always bothered her because it sounded a lot like "orphan" and there was the fact that she was adopted.

The point is that, if he turns out semi-normal, Barron can legally change his name to "Todd" or "Steve" or something other than what his loathsome father picked.

[BigmanPigman]

32. I taught elementary school from the 90s

until a few years ago and I substituted in literally hundreds of classes before I got a contract and the current names are impossible to pronounce. When I had to get my own substitute teachers I had special name tags for each student that phonetically "spelled" their names to help the subs out. In all of those classes I never had a single Susan, Karen or Lisa. They were common names when I grew up. Now parents want to be "unique" so they invent names that are impossible to spell, write, pronounce or remember. And these are not kids from foreign countries and cultures but plain, old run of the mill kids whose parents I knew for years and names like "Szehimya" (no kidding) are the new norm. I think they get Scrabble tiles and toss them out to come up with a name regardless of the gender. It is either something that is supposed to be exotic or the other extreme of something that is simple and an object like "Tongue" or a verb like "Grow".

[ProudLib72]

33. Thanks for the laugh!

Scrabble tiles!!!

"Szehimya" is a triple word score using all the tiles!

[Leghorn21]

9. You maybe didnt intend to, but this is the funniest thread of the day, mom!!

XOXO, ❤️

“Carmine”

[getagrip_already]

12. Carmine Cohen....

Cohen has a thick new york accent, and loves to threaten people. That's your guy right there.......

[NastyRiffraff]

13. You could be right

but whoever it was, this is yet another example of the Trump crime family. Kinda reminds me of the Gambino family. And who put John Gotti of that crime family in prison? Bob Mueller.

[pangaia]

16. Mueller did that? Oh, my goodness gracious me.

[Cha]

23. Carmne's right up

Mueller's alley.

How cosmically cool.

Riff

[Liberalagogo]

14. Don't mess with the Big Ragu!

[First Speaker]

15. If it should be proved that Trump was "Carmine"...

...his supporters would think it was a huge joke, and wouldn't give a shit about it. The GOP would shrug. The media would mention it briefly, and move on to the next Fiasco of the Day. The fact that the President of the United States was literally making phone calls threatening somebody's life would be just another thing that happened in this Bizarro World we're all living in...

[C_U_L8R]

26. Nice country ya got there

Shame if something bad should befall it.

[ProudLib72]

31. I remember watching a show about the FBI listening in on mob calls

The mobsters were discussing what caliber gun should be used for a hit except, instead of "caliber", they referred to it as suit size. For instance, if someone said Johnny wore at 38 suit, it meant you should use a 38 caliber gun to make the hit.

It strikes me that Donny must wear a size 45 suit....

[Sedona]

34. "It's only a matter of time...

before a stripper ends up beaten to death in the parking lot of Bada Bing."

Stephanie Miller, 3/16/18