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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDavid Corn, Mother Jones, Oct. 19, 2016: "Donald Trump Is Completely Obsessed With Revenge"
The debate tonight could be all about payback.
DAVID CORN OCT. 19, 2016 12:48 PM
At the second presidential debate, GOP nominee Donald Trump went where no major candidate has gone: He vowed that if elected he would prosecute and imprison his opponent. This promise was a pure act of vengeance and drew much scorn. But Trumps supporters, who have long rallied around the lock her up meme, embraced his declaration. Days later, Trump expanded on his pledge: He said he would also throw Clintons lawyers into the hoosegow. And after the New York Times and other media published the accounts of women who said they had been groped, grabbed, and kissed against their will by Trump, the former reality television star threatened payback against his accusers and the press. Next he attacked GOP House Speaker Paul Ryan after the top Republican dared to suggest that the US electoral system worked fine while Trump was claiming it was rigged against him.
Revengeits a big part of Trumps life. Following the first presidential debate, he spent days of valuable campaign time (and hours of valuable sleep time) slamming Alicia Machado, the former Miss Universe. At other times during this contest, he could not let go of his feud with Rosie ODonnell. He tried to smear Judge Gonzalo Curiel, the American-born federal judge hearing a fraud case against Trump University, as a Mexican unqualified to preside over this litigation. For days, he derided Khizr and Ghazala Khan, the parents of an Army captain killed in Iraq, after Khizr criticized him during a speech at the Democratic convention. He launched misogynistic attacks against Carly Fiorina and Megyn Kelly. Rather than attempt to unify his party after a divisive primary fight, he threatened to finance future campaigns against GOP rivals, most notably Ohio Gov. John Kasich. He encouraged violence against protesters at his rallies. And there were the mean and nasty nicknames: Lyin Ted, Little Marco. Why all the insults, bullying, and grudge matches? There is a reason. Trump fervently believes in retaliation. How do we know? Because he has said numerous times that he is driven by revenge and that it is a basic tool to use in business. He is obsessed with payback.
In speeches and public talks, Trump has repeatedly expressed his fondness for retribution. In 2011, he addressed the National Achievers Congress in Sydney, Australia, to explain how he had achieved his success. He noted there were a couple of lessons not taught in business school that successful people must know. At the top of the list was this piece of advice: Get even with people. If they screw you, screw them back 10 times as hard. I really believe it.
This get even bit was a key part of his shtick when Trump spoke before crowds of people about the keys to his success. In a 2012 speech, he offered a longer version of this riff:
One of the things you should do in terms of success: If somebody hits you, youve got to hit em back five times harder than they ever thought possible. Youve got to get even. Get even. And the reason, the reason you do, is so important The reason you do, you have to do it, because if they do that to you, you have to leave a telltale sign that they just cant take advantage of you. Its not so much for the person, which does make you feel good, to be honest with you, Ive done it many times. But other people watch and you know they say, Well, lets leave Trump alone, or Lets leave this one, or Doris, lets leave her alone. They fight too hard. I say it, and its so important. You have to, you have to hit back. You have to hit back.
Submariner
(12,503 posts)lead to a Tim Russert-like collapse where he goes into an unsurvivable coronary lock up. Wouldnt that be a damn shame.
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)Trump needs to learn what a danger he is to our country and how the majority of the country hates him. If he has a "coronary lock-up" he won't have the lesson. Remember, we're never too old to learn and this guy needs the lesson in the worst way.
TNNurse
(6,926 posts)True Blue American
(17,984 posts)salin
(48,955 posts)and a year later (Oct 17) he shared a scathing letter he received from Trump in 2004.
Yes, Trump is obsessive in his vengefulness.
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)From your link:
What concerns me most, based upon my personal experiences with Donald Trump, is his vindictive streak, which could be so dangerous if he got into the White House. For somebody who is running to be the leader of the free world to be so wrapped up in himself, rather than concerned with global issues, is very worrying.
Very worrying indeed, although apparently not worrying enough for millions of Americans to pretend that what was right before their eyes was somehow the exact opposite.
I'm slowly joining the many who feel the only answer to this is a "blue wave" in November. I observe the progress with Mueller and Daniels daily, but as long as Ryan and McConnell are in positions of power, the only way we will see any action taken is if their own personal interests and political futures are in jeopardy.
In a Democratic-controlled House and Senate, Trump will be blocked at every turn, and his response will be to veto every piece of legislation that hits his desk. Then it goes back to Congress for a 2/3 majority vote. That will be the endless cycle until 2020.
I don't have a crystal ball. I don't know if the "course correction" will come from Mueller, Daniels. the "blue wave," or some combination of all three. As long as it comes, it doesn't really matter.
In the wake of the McCabe firing, pundits are predicting Trump's "Saturday Night Massacre." Sessions fired McCabe, so what does that say about the odds of his continuing tenure? He goes down, Trump installs a "loyalist" who fires Mueller, boom..."constitutional crisis."
Things are positioned to get much worse before they get "better."
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)Trump is getting very desperate and cannot control himself from doing crazy, stupid things to try to avoid the inevitable.
We need to stay united and focused, letting TPTB know we will not abide by any of this crap!
djacq
(1,633 posts)global1
(25,241 posts)the hairline fracture to her wrist? Where will his revenge take him next?
annabanana
(52,791 posts)His pettiness has no bounds
Cha
(297,154 posts)on trump is going to be oh so SWEET!
Revenge of the People! Make a Great Flick!
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)There is no happiness for him. He is all about hate and vengeance. Nobody who lives like that can be at peace.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)This is an appropriate time for us all to review that.
Btw, I think I'm seeing something of a parallel in The Donald's mean, malicious firings, bending over backwards to be as insulting as possible, and Putin's public poisonings of people he feels betrayed him.
Both take what their power allows them to do to its max, and both draw out their malicious, vicious enjoyment by making their victims wait and worry about what's going to happen.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)And when the American people hit back, it will be with the force of liberty and democracy, which measures a helluva more than "five times" the initial punch.
Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)Then it's 'thank you sir may I have another'.
dchill
(38,472 posts)dalton99a
(81,455 posts)if you haven't seen it