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sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 08:12 AM Mar 2018

Everything the US right claimed to stand for, except for one thing, turned out to be a lie.

Just to belabor the obvious: everything the US right claimed to stand for, except for one thing, turns out to have been a lie. The party of “patriotism” is OK with foreign powers intervening in US elections, as long as they benefit. 1/

The party of God, personal responsibility, and family values is OK with presidents who pay off porn stars (and House speakers who molest teenage boys) 2/


The party of “fiscal responsibility” is fine with running deficits that are unprecedented in an economy neither in a war or a recession 3/


Only one thing remains as an unchanging, never-to-be-violated principle: tax cuts for the rich. And they will do anything, literally anything, to achieve that goal 4/



And the capper:

Not just no collusion: they won't even admit Russia favored Trump. The GOP is now officially the party that thinks treason in the pursuit of tax cuts is no vice



Shout this from the rooftops. This is what the GOP is and why they are willing to destroy everything America was built on. This is what we are fighting against.



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Everything the US right claimed to stand for, except for one thing, turned out to be a lie. (Original Post) sharedvalues Mar 2018 OP
That and malaise Mar 2018 #1
Yup workinclasszero Mar 2018 #9
They aren't Racist! Stryst Mar 2018 #26
THIS MyOwnPeace Mar 2018 #2
We should hang this around their necks for 5 decades. sharedvalues Mar 2018 #3
And hanging........ MyOwnPeace Mar 2018 #4
When When they go down (finally) it will be unrecoverable. Volaris Mar 2018 #25
I love truth bombs. ffr Mar 2018 #5
"Treason in the pursuit of tax cuts" should be our theme.... KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2018 #6
Did you hear Rand Paul True Blue American Mar 2018 #14
No, I have not but thanks and I will dig it up on YouTube. KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2018 #19
Now, now, don't be silly. I still stand for everything I joined Hortensis Mar 2018 #7
We stand for fairness, for equality, for our melting pot sharedvalues Mar 2018 #16
Yes. +10,000. Hortensis Mar 2018 #21
GOTV. Turnout. Vote. Organize! sharedvalues Mar 2018 #23
The Con is touting a second round of tax cuts. CrispyQ Mar 2018 #8
Now get a Democrat to run on this? NOT. Weak Dems will bonniebgood Mar 2018 #10
they won't even admit Russia favored Trump. - treason in the pursuit of tax cuts poboy2 Mar 2018 #11
I would add that they stand for something else: lastlib Mar 2018 #12
K&R uponit7771 Mar 2018 #13
K&R Scurrilous Mar 2018 #15
Kick dalton99a Mar 2018 #17
Actually, they also never lied about cannabis_flower Mar 2018 #18
Only if it was a room full of... KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2018 #20
How about 26 dead in a church shooting in Texas with lots of dead white Christian Republican ladies. hedda_foil Mar 2018 #31
How quickly we forget... KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2018 #32
I'll (charitably) give them half a point for sincerity on health care, too Jim Lane Mar 2018 #22
Even that centers on tax cuts sharedvalues Mar 2018 #24
They hated the Soviets less for their human rights abuses Abu Pepe Mar 2018 #27
Paul Krugman is wonderful. longship Mar 2018 #28
He is one of the most eloquent writers out there today DFW Mar 2018 #30
K&R! dchill Mar 2018 #29
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
9. Yup
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 09:52 AM
Mar 2018

Tax cuts for the rich and a deep hatred of PoC.

The bedrock only thing the republican party believes in!

They sold us out to the Russians in a blink of an eye to achieve these goals!

Stryst

(714 posts)
26. They aren't Racist!
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 10:26 PM
Mar 2018

They paid that one sleepy black guy to take pictures with them, now they aren't.
That's how it works.

Volaris

(10,266 posts)
25. When When they go down (finally) it will be unrecoverable.
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 08:49 PM
Mar 2018

They will go the way of the Whigs.
(Yes I know, we keep saying it, but eventually, it WILL happen. Time and demographics are against them, and they know it.)

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
6. "Treason in the pursuit of tax cuts" should be our theme....
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 09:13 AM
Mar 2018

to use against Repugs in the upcoming elections. It applies to every damn one of them, as they have been complicit or dead silent on both Russian interference and the deadly long-term effects of their tax cut bill.

And, my senator ( ) the turtle is the king of the cricket chorus.



Thanks, Paul K. for the excellent perspective!

True Blue American

(17,981 posts)
14. Did you hear Rand Paul
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 10:14 AM
Mar 2018

On CNN? Not crazy about him, but he is going to fight Pompeo and the woman. Will filibuster if he has to.

Both of them are war mongers and approved of torture.

Then Lindsey came on with his weak excuse that was the law then!

What a sniveling coward Graham is. Never served over seas. Wrote wills for those who did.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
19. No, I have not but thanks and I will dig it up on YouTube.
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 11:22 AM
Mar 2018

Don't care for Rand at all but he does have one slight redeeming quality of being anti-war, although that also comes with all the bullshit economics of Libertarianism and love for Ayn Rand.

From what I've read about Pompeo, if he fights against him and does not fold, I might send Rand some thoughts and prayers (that he loses his next election, LOL).

Rand does need to explain, too, why he never fought to have Shrub and Cheney brought up for war crimes. He and Lindsey always seem to fold when it comes time to vote for right-wing legislative fodder, although Rand has surprised me a few times.

Must agree about Graham - he's a flip-flopper and S.C. deserves better.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. Now, now, don't be silly. I still stand for everything I joined
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 09:26 AM
Mar 2018

the Democratic Party to further. We are the party whose ideals shaped the constitution, and we still work now for what we always have. We are the people of Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Quincy Adams, Lincoln, Roosevelt, Truman, Johnson and Obama, and others. Including Bill Clinton who, even during his most cooperative moments trying to hold power against a Republican congress, was ten times better than any Republican president since Eisenhower.

Just one little part among many of what we stand for:

BRING AMERICANS TOGETHER AND REMOVE BARRIERS TO OPPORTUNITIES

Ending Systemic Racism
Closing the Racial Wealth Gap
Reforming our Criminal Justice System
Fixing our Broken Immigration System
Guaranteeing Civil Rights
Guaranteeing Women’s Rights
Guaranteeing Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Rights
Guaranteeing Rights for People with Disabilities
Respecting Faith and Service
Investing in Rural America
Ending Poverty and Investing in Communities Left Behind
Building Strong Cities and Metro Areas
Promoting Arts and Culture
Honoring Indigenous Tribal Nations
Fighting for the People of Puerto Rico
Honoring the People of the Territories

“The enemy isn’t conservatism. The enemy isn’t liberalism. The enemy is bullshit." L-E Nelson


SharedValues, we will rescue our nation from what's happening to it. Blame all those who let us down so dreadfully, but don't blame the Democrats who worked and voted and are still fighting against it.

Itm, maybe look above and find a value that makes you want to fight for yourself? It's much too early to abandon all.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
16. We stand for fairness, for equality, for our melting pot
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 10:32 AM
Mar 2018

Democrats, and Americans, stand for fairness of opportunity, no matter who your parents are.
We stand for equality under the law and at the polls, and equality of education, and opportunity, and pay - for women and minorities and everyone who works hard.

We stand for hard work and the American Dream. Of getting paid fairly if you work hard and treat people well.

Those are some of our shared values as Democrats and Americans.

CrispyQ

(36,410 posts)
8. The Con is touting a second round of tax cuts.
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 09:51 AM
Mar 2018

Watch the GOP congress rush another one through before the midterms.

 

poboy2

(2,078 posts)
11. they won't even admit Russia favored Trump. - treason in the pursuit of tax cuts
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 10:11 AM
Mar 2018


@paulkrugman
Not just no collusion: they won't even admit Russia favored Trump. The GOP is now officially the party that thinks treason in the pursuit of tax cuts is no vice https://nyti.ms/2tD9mK6
7:36 AM - Mar 13, 2018


Krugman finally using the T word.


Dems should have BEEN using it. It was time when the traitor uttered it a few weeks ago.
The republicans sure as hell would be using it every other word. This is easy. CALL THEM TRAITORS.


lastlib

(23,117 posts)
12. I would add that they stand for something else:
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 10:13 AM
Mar 2018

Wealth for the wealthy, power for the powerful, poverty for the poor and sickness for the sick.

Oh, and gunz. Guns good. More gunz better.

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
18. Actually, they also never lied about
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 11:14 AM
Mar 2018

Supporting the 2nd Amendment. Over the lives of children even. What would it take to get them to do something, perhaps a gun attack on a room full of pregnant women?

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
20. Only if it was a room full of...
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 11:48 AM
Mar 2018

white Republican Christian women.....in a gated neighborhood church. Even then, they would just send extra boatloads of thoughts and prayers and suggest women arm themselves in church.

IMO, Republican philosophy is driven in part by the rich man's fear of the "other" and the "lesser", so therefore they think they must be able to arm themselves with no limits to protect "theirs". It's all about fear, greed and authoritarianism.

hedda_foil

(16,370 posts)
31. How about 26 dead in a church shooting in Texas with lots of dead white Christian Republican ladies.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 11:18 AM
Mar 2018

Sutherland Springs, Texas, last November. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/church-shooting-texas/545018/



Twenty-six people were killed in a shooting attack on a rural church in Sutherland Springs, Texas, said Texas Governor Greg Abbott, who called it “the largest mass shooting in state history.”

The alleged gunman was identified by the Texas Department of Public Safety as Devin Patrick Kelley, a 26-year-old from New Braunfels, Texas, a suburb of San Antonio.

The attack comes in the wake of another church shooting, in September, outside of Nashville, Tennessee, where a 25-year-old man allegedly opened fire on Burnette Chapel Church of Christ at the end of its Sunday service, killing one woman and injuring seven others. Taken together with the deadly attacks in Las Vegas and New York City, the shooting at First Baptist Church in Texas is part of a disorienting wave of mass violence this fall.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
32. How quickly we forget...
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 12:32 PM
Mar 2018

I'm getting too old and there's been so many. Love-life revenge, if I recall.

We can bet nothing has changed in Texas other than the weather.


 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
22. I'll (charitably) give them half a point for sincerity on health care, too
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 03:09 PM
Mar 2018

They really did try to repeal the ACA. They would have done it, too, except for a handful of defections.

Their mantra was "Repeal and replace" and the "replace" part was bogus.

In defense of Krugman's position, one could argue that the attack on Medicaid expansion, premium subsidies, and other parts of the ACA was a consequence of the tax cut mania, as are spending cuts in other areas. The GOP is, however, ready to tolerate huge deficits as a consequence of tax cuts. Hence, they didn't absolutely have to attack the ACA, but they did it anyway.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
24. Even that centers on tax cuts
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 08:44 PM
Mar 2018

I hear what you're saying - the GOP used the obamacare fake attacks as a political brickbat, and wanted to at least try to deliver on their lies. But bigger than that was - you guessed it - tax cuts. The ACA repeal the GOP was pushing would have allowed deeper tax cuts through reconciliation, without the fiction of the expiring cuts on the working class at the backend. (Also, the ACA repeal would have rolled back new taxes on the 0.1% - the real GOP constituency).

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/06/opinion/sunday/the-house-health-care-disaster-is-really-about-taxes.html

It’s unclear what health policy problem this bill would solve. Even for an opponent of Obamacare, it is difficult to understand why House Republicans chose this path to revamping the nation’s health care system.

It’s difficult to understand, that is, if you think they were passing a health care bill. It makes more sense when you realize that isn’t what they were doing at all. They were passing a tax cut — one intended to pave the way for more tax cuts.

...

The flaws of the bill, then, can be understood as a symptom of the flaws of the Republican Party, which has for decades maintained a myopic focus on tax cuts at the expense of nearly all else. Too often, it is a party of people who seem to confuse governing with cutting taxes.


http://www.businessinsider.com/latest-stab-at-trumpcare-seeks-savings-with-which-to-cut-taxes-2017-9

When Republicans say healthcare reform they really mean tax cuts, predominantly for wealthy Americans and corporations.

That's the key takeaway from President Donald Trump and congressional Republicans' frantic, behind-closed-doors attempt to slash healthcare expenditures in a new bill that would deny health-insurance coverage to millions of Americans.


Abu Pepe

(637 posts)
27. They hated the Soviets less for their human rights abuses
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 11:08 PM
Mar 2018

but because of they were anti capitalists. That was clear from their support for evil fucks who were crony capitalists.

Now that the ruskis are crony capitalist, their authoritarianism is just peachy.

For the record the Soviets were undeniably more oppressive but I cant think of anything they did during the cold war (at least not successfully) as aggressive as what is described in the Mueller indictment, in terms of espionage against the US. The infiltration of our nuclear program would be the closest. Giving Stalin the bomb was an existential threat yet not one that would destroy our system of goverment without having to do the dangerous work of physically attacking us.

DFW

(54,255 posts)
30. He is one of the most eloquent writers out there today
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 03:26 AM
Mar 2018

A Nobel Prize winner in his field, he could write in incomprehensible academese if he wanted to. But he knows how to write so the masses can grasp his points, and follow his logic at the same time.

You can tell he's a Democrat: he uses reason and doesn't shout.

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