Does anyone have FB friends or family Trump supporters who you argue with?...

[Locut0s]

I have a friend of a friend on FB who I've been off and on talking politics with. He's not 100% a trump supporter but is one of those baffling ones who doesn't like the guy but likes many of his "ideas". He's clearly right wing conservative. He is though at least willing to talk at length and seems to enjoy debating. But even with these types I find they get my anger up at times even when they are arguing very dispassionately. Largely because when you are arguing for no gun laws for example I find it hard not to get mad. The crazy thing is he's African American, or at least of mixed African American heritage. I have family too who are pretty far right. In my case all my family are in Canada. I have one wealthy uncle in particular who loves to rub his left wing brothers the wrong way with his politics.

Do you have friends or family you argue with in this way who you have NOT cut out entirely? What has been the result?

[HipChick]

1. Nope..because

I cut them off and don't speak to them...

[jrthin]

2. Same here. I have no desire to speak to them. nt

[trixie2]

19. I personally hate FB

I have cut down my "friends" to only family and a few very close friends. I have a rule, since I work in public service and serve all people, that any talk of politics or religion and you will be unfollowed.

Announcing a religious rite is allowed.

[Cosmocat]

31. I finally had enough two weeks ago

I had weed it out a few of the really bad ones, but mostly just stopped following a lot of them. There were some that I fell into arguing with when they replied to things my sane friends had posted.

But, I simply just had too much heartburn, and made a point 2 weeks ago of just unfriending pretty much all of them, particularly high school friends who I really have had no contact with through the years.

I know my feed is more insular, it's just basically people who are politically neutral and liberal now. It's sort of hurts my heart, most of the folks I've cut out or otherwise okay. But it just was too agitating, and I'm definitely a lot happier right now.

[safeinOhio]

3. Nope. No family

and few friends.

At least on FB.

[TomSlick]

4. I have a couple.

One has gotten to the point that he is an anti-Trump Republican.

The other, well, I mainly talk to him to learn what people who only watch Faux News are being told. He is appalled at the Stormy story.

[Tavarious Jackson]

5. One.

Gives up and says she can't follow as well as I do since she is too busy. That is her way of disputing facts...

[lkinwi]

6. A few Facebook friends, but theyre very quiet right now.

Their posts consist of sunsets and kittens. 😂 They completely ignore my political posts, but will chime in on neutral things.

[Croney]

7. Sure, about half my 40 FB friends.

All my FB friends are family members, split about evenly between intelligent people and Drumpf-humping evangelical morons. We have reached a state of uneasy detente and don't talk politics. But when we get rid of the orange jackass I'm going to gloat. At least a little.

[NRaleighLiberal]

8. No. Waste of breath.

[lastlib]

9. Most of my FB friends (and all family) are hard-core Dwumpers.

I only keep 'em because a) they're family, or b) I have other connections with them. I snark with a few, but I know I won't change 'em.

[pnwmom]

10. They are friends of friends on FB. And I do answer with facts, because some of the

onlookers in these conversations might be interested in the facts, even if the Fox-news fan isn't.

Also, a relative from a red state called the other day to argue about guns (based on something I'd posed on FB). We found that we could agree on banning guns like AR-15, raising the age to 21 for all firearms, and fixing the databases. So I think that discussion was worthwhile.

[Trust Buster]

11. Yes, I find that right wing males are very insecure people.

I have a right wing brother who has to provoke politically all the time in an effort to gain attention. I eventually wised up and refused to engage him. It is as if I am challenging his manhood by refusing to engage. He is what I like to call a “political Christian”. The politics is actually irrelevant. It is the attention and affirmation that they crave. The politics is merely the vehicle the poor insecure bastards use to that end. Don’t be fooled.

[gratuitous]

12. A couple of friends of friends, but I don't argue with them

I simply give them the benefit of the correct opinion and leave it at that. For some reason, they post a response, pretending they weren't just given the correct opinion, but I don't waste any more time posting to them.

[Kajun Gal]

13. Hell, my daughter won't speak to me.

[silverweb]

14. Nope.

Most of my relatives are trumpsters, with one or two hard-core Libertarians. We're not FB friends and I won't be dragged into political "discussion" with them in person or any other way; it never ends well.

Their standard response to anything they don't like relies on ad hominem attacks. Since our philosophies are almost completely opposite, we don't have much to talk about outside of family matters. It's awkward, but much better than engaging with them; that is a complete waste of time and energy.

Former conservative friends dropped off one by one over time, again because of opposing world views. The last one was a very liberal, free-spirited "best friend" in school, but has gone hateful RWNJ so radically that I wouldn't even want to know her if we met now for the first time.

It's a shame, but that's the way it is.

[raven mad]

15. No.

I will not have a friend who supports this asshole. And my family knows better.

[bettyellen]

16. One, and old childhood friend who is pretty respectful. He just found out about Trumps casinos

Going bust, and little by little he has turned against Trump. He’s a RWing guy who probably won’t change that, but will support impeachment when proof comes out about collusion. He follows too much RW news but basically doesn’t dispute reports from WaPo and the NYT, so I think he’s redeemable. Just has had a very narrow POV because of his move to the Orlando area.

[Abu Pepe]

17. No. I stopped arguing after the Charlottesville Nazi rampage

Then I quit using it altogether. Still have the account and havent logged in for weeks. Much less stress now.

[sarcasmo]

18. I use Twitter, left Facebook a couple years ago.

[GitRDun]

20. I have given up

On FB I either unfollow or un friend depending on what I see and what my relationship is with the person.

I have one very good friend who is an R I have told I cannot talk politics with him any more.

He doesn’t listen, lacks empathy for those he does not know and does to little reading outside the Fox bubble.

It’s the only way we can stay friends.

[Upthevibe]

21. I have several childhood friends who I've kept up with over the

years but we aren't close friends as adults because of distance- I live in California and they live in Texas (where I was born and raised). However, over the past 2 1/2 years we have gotten together because of high school reunions, us turning 60, and sibling deaths. All but one are Right-wingers and some are evangelicals. When we've actually been together, we don't speak politics. On FB, I've unfollowed them so I don't see what they post and they don't see what I post (although I don't think they even know I've unfollowed them (not defriended them). I refuse to argue with ANY BODY on FB. It's such a waste of time. All of my California friends are Dems. My only family left is my Sister in Chicago and she's very progressive. We have wonderful talks. Both of my Nephews (in Texas) are Liberals and one is even working on one of the districts to turn it blue....

[fescuerescue]

22. Arguing over facebook is waste of time

And only puts money in Facebooks pocket.

Facebook isn't a free product.

WE are the free product that Facebook sells

[VOX]

23. Mercifully, no.

I don’t think I could be friends with a 45 supporter. “Old-school” Republicans I can work with, but anyone who still supports him, by performance and association, would have to be:
-Woefully uninformed, viewing the world in the most simplistic manner
-Lacking in empathy, unconcerned about the pain and suffering of others, especially those who are less fortunate
-Carrying a malignant anger directed at women, LGBTs, African Americans, Latinos, Asians, South Asians
-Using religion as a weapon, and as a way to manipulate weaker individuals
-Having no respect for environment, okay with pursuing the extraction of fossil fuels
-Stating that climate change is a hoax, ignoring and dismissing science altogether
-Supporting the NRA

For these few reasons alone (and there are many more), I could never maintain a friendship with such a person. If they were family, I’d have to avoid seeing them, since these positions are non-negotiable. It’s hard enough being a decent and caring human being in a hostile and rapidly changing world.

[dembotoz]

24. Like playing slots .. sometimes it's just fun

[snpsmom]

26. I have one uncle

who thinks he knows everything and is a Trumpist. But I don't have to see that anymore because I deleted my Facebook account. He's in Colorado and I'm in Michigan. We only see each other a few times a year.

[democratisphere]

27. My entire family is a bunch of fox propaganda network watchers and

drumpf worshippers. I gave up on all of them long ago and no longer have anything to do with any of them. Why would anyone want to have anything to do with GOP drumpf supporters? They are the very core of what is wrong with our former democracy. They support a narcissistic psychopath who's entire purpose is to dismantle America and become an autocratic dictator. These so-called friends and family just aren't worth engaging with for any reason. Don't understand why anyone would want to continue or preserve a relationship with people that think like that. I now understand how creatures like Hitler are able to aquire absolute power and devout followers.

[secondwind]

28. I play Mah Jongg with a Trumpster. This past Friday, she coughed up a gem:

Conor Lamb won because Soros owns the voting machines in PA.

Imagine that.

[secondwind]

29. I play Mah Jongg with a Trumpster. This past Friday, she coughed up a gem:

Conor Lamb won because Soros owns the voting machines in PA.

Imagine that.

[RandiFan1290]

30. No, I don't associate with racists. nt

[Mike Nelson]

32. Yes...

... could have written your post - except for the Canada part! Some continue to argue or debate - some do not... not a single person has said they were wrong and moved from pro-Trump to anti-Trump. I think several have accepted negative characteristics about Trump are real, though...

For those who put down Facebook or give up, remember these people have FOX "News" on all day and have their own circle personal friends. They may have been watching it for years... Going on Facebook and looking at post from old friends and classmates is their way of seeing there is another reality out there... I think it's important for the brainwashed to see their "FOX Facts" are wrong (or disputed, at least).

[Jrsygrl96]

33. Yes.

I have a very devout Catholic friend who I thought was a mainstream Republican. BUT, she really thinks this guy is a messiah! She told me to stop listening to left wing propaganda while she ONLY watches Faux Noise. The p*!#$ grabbing tape was just locker room talk. The slut wife should be forgiven for her past. She says he doesn't really mean what he says. My friend believes the moron is going to overturn Roe v. Wade, and thinks he somehow cares about God. She cannot see he worships only himself and money. These cult 45ers are truly brainwashed and live in a completely different reality. Very frightening.

[beachbum bob]

34. a waste of time "arguing" with a conservative, or a republican or a trump supporter

best use of the effort in supporting those who will take back our country in November.

[sarah FAILIN]

35. I do but it is useless.

I am pretty sure 1 is a white supremacist and I only keep him around to correct his lies. It is useless though.. They are nuts.

[treestar]

36. Yes, I keep it to online people

rather than in person.

They are easy to stymie. They immediately resort to deflection.

[dameatball]

37. I discontinued Facebook for precisely this reason. Mostly in-laws spouting garbage 24/7.