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Franklin Graham: Trump Stopped Sinning When He Became President (Original Post) Quixote1818 Mar 2018 OP
How does he know? C_U_L8R Mar 2018 #1
yes eShirl Mar 2018 #28
Yes, and "Thou shalt not bear false witness", is a big sin he commits avg. 20x a day. The Wielding Truth Mar 2018 #29
Being president is the new absolution then? Unless one is black, of course... flibbitygiblets Mar 2018 #2
...or a Democrat. J_William_Ryan Mar 2018 #38
Someone just rolled over. Sneederbunk Mar 2018 #3
"In Him there is no sin." - 1 John 3:5 dalton99a Mar 2018 #4
It's God-Emperor, u dirty blasphemous heathen. Volaris Mar 2018 #65
If he was around, Jesus would not recognize his followers. IluvPitties Mar 2018 #5
If Jesus were around today... PJMcK Mar 2018 #52
Graham, Osteen, and those like them are the face of hypocrisy. ooky Mar 2018 #61
that is simply sick. as in scary, dangerously sick. Gross! NRaleighLiberal Mar 2018 #6
Yep, fucked up on an epic level. These fundy assholes are so fucking corrupt! nt Quixote1818 Mar 2018 #9
Divine right of kings Lars39 Mar 2018 #40
Now that is damn funny CatMor Mar 2018 #7
Since when is lying not a sin? Grammy23 Mar 2018 #8
He's just a tad foggy flotsam Mar 2018 #11
White Evangelicals are Sticking with Their "Prince of Lies" dalton99a Mar 2018 #12
LMFAO!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #32
Franklin Graham is a heretic njhoneybadger Mar 2018 #10
I guess Franklin hasn't gotten to chapter 5 of Isaiah yet gratuitous Mar 2018 #13
+1 CentralMass Mar 2018 #35
+1000 Tatiana Mar 2018 #37
That's your basic Dirty Donny* republican stance - pissing on the Bible Achilleaze Mar 2018 #47
Burn this fuktard MFM008 Mar 2018 #14
I think he's got Trump confused with the Pope. Renew Deal Mar 2018 #15
Even Catholics don't believe the pope is without sin dalton99a Mar 2018 #44
We accept him, we accept him. One of us, one of us. What a scary freak show. Freethinker65 Mar 2018 #16
Because, to paraphrase Richard Nixon: Mister Ed Mar 2018 #17
Gee, and here I thought all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. classof56 Mar 2018 #18
Trump is good at one thing. Exposing these people Thrill Mar 2018 #19
Says the jackass that grew up in a gated mansion. tonyt53 Mar 2018 #20
fuck you graham... spanone Mar 2018 #21
Frankie's followers are even dumber than Trumps. Whodathunkit? oasis Mar 2018 #22
Franklyn Graham is a fraud. madaboutharry Mar 2018 #23
Hmmm, Seems graham has a direct batphone to god.............. Old Vet Mar 2018 #39
Big time fraud/con man just like his tin god Trump workinclasszero Mar 2018 #48
I just tweeted to ellie Mar 2018 #24
Wait, What? "A maturing of the president"? Such BS. trump is 71,... brush Mar 2018 #25
May have started sinning worse.... sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #26
delusional eShirl Mar 2018 #27
Oh FFS Blue Owl Mar 2018 #30
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha *holds breath* ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!! Initech Mar 2018 #31
He's horrible.... Upthevibe Mar 2018 #33
OK, let's see... The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #34
STFU-tool for evile Cha Mar 2018 #36
I thought only Jesus would be capable of not sinning at all... ExciteBike66 Mar 2018 #41
Is he kidding? Trump breaks at least one Commandment a day when no_hypocrisy Mar 2018 #42
He bears more false witness in a single tweet than most folks do in a week! eom Maeve Mar 2018 #46
face palm Dorian Gray Mar 2018 #43
Shorter white evangelicals: JHB Mar 2018 #45
Exactly this Docreed2003 Mar 2018 #58
As if we needed any further proof that Graham is a nutjob! PA Democrat Mar 2018 #49
It's not possible for a president to sin? Wow. ck4829 Mar 2018 #50
Man I cannot find that passage in my Bible, Franklin Graham workinclasszero Mar 2018 #55
I believe that's in the same book where Jesus said... ck4829 Mar 2018 #56
That's it! workinclasszero Mar 2018 #57
Somebody get ken starr on the phone...that motherfucker owes us an apology. Volaris Mar 2018 #66
Franklin is kooky. Owl Mar 2018 #51
and Don asks... handmade34 Mar 2018 #53
Got to keep that money rolling in Butterflylady Mar 2018 #54
The good reverend must have forgot Proverbs 6 : 16-19 DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #59
That guy is on crack? Autumn Mar 2018 #60
This doesn't add up caraher Mar 2018 #62
Facts? We dont need no stinkin facts! Shrike47 Mar 2018 #63
Lying, cheating and stealing are still sins jmowreader Mar 2018 #64
this guy is a fricin nut CelticWinter Mar 2018 #67
too much religion bdamomma Mar 2018 #68
+50,000 Angry Dragon Mar 2018 #71
The GOP should just start wearing t-shirts reading.... mreilly Mar 2018 #69
Invisible Man NOMOGOP Mar 2018 #70
Franklin is still a sinner and follow the money Angry Dragon Mar 2018 #72

The Wielding Truth

(11,415 posts)
29. Yes, and "Thou shalt not bear false witness", is a big sin he commits avg. 20x a day.
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 12:55 AM
Mar 2018

“Thou shalt not bear false witness” forbids: “1. Speaking falsely in any matter, lying, equivocating, and any way devising and designing to deceive our neighbor. 2. Speaking unjustly against our neighbor, to the prejudice of his reputation; and (which involves the guilty of both).

https://www.google.com/search?q=Thou+shalt+not+bare+false+witness&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b

That's the one that is the most blatant.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
2. Being president is the new absolution then? Unless one is black, of course...
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 12:04 AM
Mar 2018

That stupid, stupid man is in for quite an awakening.

PJMcK

(22,029 posts)
52. If Jesus were around today...
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 08:16 AM
Mar 2018

...his "followers" would be the ones to crucify him.

Jesus' teachings weren't an issue for the Roman Empire and Pontius Pilate didn't even want to deal with Jesus. He found no fault in Jesus. But Pilate was forced to "wash his hands" by the religious establishment, the Sanhedrin, a group of Jewish leaders who perceived Jesus as a threat.

Jesus said things that totally threatened the power and wealth of the Sanhedrin. If Jesus were teaching today, would Franklin Graham, Rick Warren or Joel Osteen represent his message? Would they embrace Jesus who opposed their type of behavior during his lifetime? Or would they act like the Sanhedrin?

ooky

(8,922 posts)
61. Graham, Osteen, and those like them are the face of hypocrisy.
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 11:15 AM
Mar 2018

There is nothing remotely biblical about their ideology or their lavish lifestyles. They are stench to the teachings and example of Jesus provided in the New Testament. They represent the false teachers Jesus warned about following. Their misguided followers behave as modern day Pharisees when they go to the polls and vote for politicians that promote greed and hate.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
8. Since when is lying not a sin?
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 12:11 AM
Mar 2018

tRump is the king of the liars and if he is not a sinner, there will be a lot of other folks relieved to hear that.

dalton99a

(81,443 posts)
12. White Evangelicals are Sticking with Their "Prince of Lies"
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 12:15 AM
Mar 2018
http://www.newsweek.com/2017/10/13/donald-trump-white-evangelicals-support-god-677587.html
Does God Believe in Trump? White Evangelicals are Sticking with Their "Prince of Lies"
By Nina Burleigh On 10/5/17 at 8:00 AM

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
13. I guess Franklin hasn't gotten to chapter 5 of Isaiah yet
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 12:17 AM
Mar 2018

Verse 20: "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!"

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
47. That's your basic Dirty Donny* republican stance - pissing on the Bible
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 07:28 AM
Mar 2018
* aka republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief

dalton99a

(81,443 posts)
44. Even Catholics don't believe the pope is without sin
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 07:17 AM
Mar 2018

"Whoever says he is without sin is a liar or is blind" - Pope Francis

Papal infallibility, in Roman Catholic theology, the doctrine that the pope, acting as supreme teacher and under certain conditions, cannot err when he teaches in matters of faith or morals.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/papal-infallibility




Freethinker65

(10,009 posts)
16. We accept him, we accept him. One of us, one of us. What a scary freak show.
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 12:21 AM
Mar 2018

Trump and Graham deserve each other.

classof56

(5,376 posts)
18. Gee, and here I thought all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 12:24 AM
Mar 2018

That's what Franklin's daddy usta preach. Then there's the verse about the wages of sin being death. Franklin needs to find a new line of work before he ends up in that lake o' fire.

madaboutharry

(40,205 posts)
23. Franklyn Graham is a fraud.
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 12:39 AM
Mar 2018

He is a film flam man. He is a huckster and a con man. These people who claim Jesus talks to them are full of shit. Anyone ever notice how Jesus doesn't talk to scientists, Nobel laureates, and people known to be sane? He only talks to people who make money from getting the sick, the elderly, the lonely, and the poor to give them money. Oh, and he talks to Mike Pence.

ellie

(6,929 posts)
24. I just tweeted to
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 12:40 AM
Mar 2018

at this asshole that he is in for a rude awakening when he meets God for God hates a hypocrite.

brush

(53,764 posts)
25. Wait, What? "A maturing of the president"? Such BS. trump is 71,...
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 12:43 AM
Mar 2018

long past the age of maturation, in his case, that of a 12-year-old.

Graham is as full of shit as trump.

Initech

(100,062 posts)
31. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha *holds breath* ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 01:02 AM
Mar 2018

Please! Trump is still the biggest asshole on the planet! Give me a break!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,669 posts)
34. OK, let's see...
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 01:30 AM
Mar 2018

Pride? "Only I can fix it!" "I have the best words." "I'm a very smart person."

Anger? What's the latest tweet?

Gluttony? Big Macs and KFC with beautiful chocolate cake and two scoops of ice cream.

Sloth? "Executive time" watching TV all morning; golf every weekend.

Lust? Stormy Daniels and others, and grabbing....

Envy? Barack Obama's inauguration crowd?

Greed? The Trump Organization and Russian money.

I think that covers all of them.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
55. Man I cannot find that passage in my Bible, Franklin Graham
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 08:21 AM
Mar 2018

It must be in the Holey Book of Rand, Evangelical Right Trump sellout edition!

ck4829

(35,043 posts)
56. I believe that's in the same book where Jesus said...
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 08:26 AM
Mar 2018

"Remember when I supposedly said 'It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to cross through the gates of Heaven'? Fake news. Never said that. Also, from now on, I'm going to need proof of insurance before I heal anyone."

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
57. That's it!
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 09:16 AM
Mar 2018

Fake Bible, fake preachers, fake gospel, fake Republican Jesus.

The evangelical right sold it's soul to the republican libertarian NRA devil in exchange for worldly political power and $$$ which is their true god.

They are massive frauds, period.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
59. The good reverend must have forgot Proverbs 6 : 16-19
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 09:34 AM
Mar 2018

There are six things the Lord hates,
seven that are detestable to him:
17 haughty eyes,
a lying tongue,
hands that shed innocent blood,
18 a heart that devises wicked schemes,
feet that are quick to rush into evil,
19 a false witness who pours out lies
and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.

Trump checks off at least six of the seven boxes.

caraher

(6,278 posts)
62. This doesn't add up
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 12:00 PM
Mar 2018

I watched the clip Josh Marshall posted and as much as I detest Franklin Graham, I heard nothing that sounds remotely like what Marshall is claiming. Graham just said that the sexual scandals (Stormy Daniels, etc.) all date to before Trump's days in office. He does say rather unconvincingly that Trump has changed, but at no point does he declare that Trump has never "sinned" as president. We have way too much genuine right wing bullshit to fight without making stuff up (which I believe characterizing Graham's words this way is).

CelticWinter

(1,399 posts)
67. this guy is a fricin nut
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 01:46 PM
Mar 2018

how does anyone in their right mind fall for this pile of crap. OOPS forgot their aren't in their right minds, damn idiots.
Celtic

 

mreilly

(2,120 posts)
69. The GOP should just start wearing t-shirts reading....
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 01:54 PM
Mar 2018

"OUR GUY CAN DO WHATEVER HE WANTS AND THAT'S JUST FINE" on the front.

"WE WILL SCREAM AND CRY LIKE INFANTS OVER EVERYTHING YOUR GUY DOES" on the back.

At least just be honest since that's their life's philosophy!

 

NOMOGOP

(87 posts)
70. Invisible Man
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 03:07 PM
Mar 2018

I guess when one can talk themselves into believing an invisible, old, bearded, white man that controls the universe, the rest is pretty easy.

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