Yes, This Is Going to Be Worse Than Watergate

[DonViejo]

In 1973, there were still some independent-minded lawmakers in the Grand Old Party. Today, not so much.

MICHAEL TOMASKY
03.20.18 5:13 AM ET

Something changed last weekend, did it not?

The firing of Andrew McCabe. The statement by Trump lawyer John Dowd to The Daily Beast’s Betsy Woodruff that Robert Mueller should end his probe soon. Donald Trump’s tweetstorm just after that, his first tweets mentioning Mueller by name along with promises by aides that more attacks are on the way. The amped-up speculation that Trump will fire Jeff Sessions and replace him with someone who hasn’t recused himself so that someone can fire Mueller.

Somewhere in there also came an official reassurance by Trump lawyer Ty Cobb that the president has no plans to fire Mueller. Right. That’s about as reassuring as the NCAA promising that all that cheating is a thing of the past.

The temperature’s rising. The New York Times’ Maggie Haberman reports that this president feels he really knows how to do this job now, and from here on in we’re going to see Trump unchained. So the Trump we’ve been seeing has been chained? God help us.

Where are we headed? If Trump fires Sessions and brings in whomever, and that person does fire Mueller, we will be in the midst of a major constitutional crisis. The standard line is “the worst since Watergate.” But this one is looking like it could be far worse than Watergate. Why?

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[samnsara]

1. i am viewing this as a historis time an im paying attention to oeverything...

.. i was in my early 20s with watergate.. i remember watching John Dean sit in front of his wife in the ct room. Her blond bun..every hair in place...i thought she looked so beautiful. Other than a quick glance at the tv i didnt pay much attn to it. Didnt know all the crap going on. This time..Im paying attention to it all.

How many times are the repugs going to do this to America?

[Dave Starsky]

2. It's already quite clear that this will make Watergate...

Look like a kid shoplifting a Snickers bar from the corner drug store.

[Progressive dog]

3. It is already worse than Watergate

Trump and his enablers are working to destroy the United States and loot the ashes. They are doing it openly, Trump brags about it on twitter.
They are working with a corrupt Russian leader to overthrow our Constitution.

[rurallib]

4. This time it really isn't just the president and his cohorts

it is every fucking republican in congress. Each and every one has a little piece and will do anything and everything they can to obstruct the investigation and outcome.

[ffr]

6. When they're in for a dime, they might as well be in for a dollar

It makes for good copy in the State TV media.

[ffr]

5. I love the dry humor

[imanamerican63]

7. Watergate was about a president and a few who thought they could get away with it!

Trump/Putingate involves counties, many GOP members & an idiot who keeps running his mouth! As the idiot stated "ITS HUGE"!

[heaven05]

8. I truly hope so

Yet I think...only ridding the Congress of trump enablers and showing the family of grifters running our country the door will start us on the road to rebuilding our seriously damaged governing apparatus, the limited racial harmony that preexisted trump and our quest for an all inclusive democratic society.

[Quemado]

9. The ongoing Civil War

Both Watergate and Russia's involvement in the 2016 election are part of the ongoing cold war that began with slavery.

The cold war portion started at least as early as early as 1773 with the Somerset v Stewart case in England, which reverberated in the North American colonies. The war went hot in 1861. The cold war continued after the Civil War ended.

It is very obvious that the GOP is fighting a cold Civil War through treason and racism and collusion with Russia.

We (U.S. citizens) and the media need to put an end to this, since a great deal of politicians at the Federal level have become so tainted by moneyed interests and cannot be counted upon to end this war.

[DownriverDem]

11. My Senators & Rep are fighting hard for us

What is it exactly that we the people can do?

[Tumbulu]

12. Agree 100%

It's a rough long road.

[FakeNoose]

10. I hope this is the end of the Republican Party

Seriously, how can that party continue after this?

[dchill]

13. All they have to do is end free and fair elections.

They're already working on that. Then they'll be in like Putin.

[LiberalLoner]

20. Yup.

[lark]

14. Watergate was petty criminality.

drumpf is in the big leagues when it comes to criminality - he actually conspired with a foreign country to change the results of an election and makes foreign policy on the basis of it's profitability to himself and kids. He is a money launderer, almost never tells the truth, cares nothing for the people or the laws of this country, hates women who aren't fluffing him, hates brown people and kids and pets, loves dictators who bribe him and wants to be one of them himself.

[randr]

15. By hiring a conspiracy totin lawyer

he is showing he is only preparing to build a grand lie for public consumption

[kentuck]

16. I followed Watergate...

But, maybe because I am much older now, this seems much more critical and threatening than Watergate ever did.

[dchill]

21. Well, this is certainly no third-rate burglary.

And John Dean and I agree with you - that makes three of us!

[jalan48]

17. Were fortunate we are heading into the midterms.

Trump’s unhinged behavior should help Democrats if we can put aside our own internal squabbles and unite. Also, some Americans will probably vote Democrat just to see what Trump is furiously trying to hide.

[Javaman]

18. oh that hurdle has been cleared a long time ago LOL nt

[wiggs]

19. Close call on whether this ends well for the country, or not. Either way, it's going to be

a giant, ugly, scary mess...a battle between forces that haven't yet fully formed.

It's currently not clear to me how all the players will align. We know some, of course. But the outcome will be determined by the players who are now silent and which side they choose to be on. Unfortunately, most of the key chess pieces up for grabs belong to the republicans...the non-freedom-caucus congressional republicans, the supreme court, oversight committees, DOJ, and even much of the media. Many, many billionaires world-wide.

The players who choose the Trump/GOP side will have the tools of: nearly unlimited wealth, the power of the presidency turned bad, the influence of interested foreign powers, the rabid enthusiasm of gun fanatics and anti-choice zealots, 90% of talk radio, GOPTV, hate, polarization, citizens united, voter suppression, and a willingness to lie/cheat/steal their way to their end goals.

The chess board was already set up to our disadvantage before Trump was elected. And this game is more than a test, more than a short term crisis, more than a tough spot, more than just a single chapter in the history books.

It's a fork in the road, and we'll all have to choose which path to take. Most of us could take the correct road but it wouldn't matter unless the key players choose wisely along with us.

[chia]

22. Well said... I would only add that Nixon didn't have the rabid base that Trump does,

who simply refuse to believe that he's doing anything wrong, and that doggedly believe that anything said or any action taken against Trump is a plot by the "deep state." That mentality wasn't there for Nixon but it is now and many of the alt-right talk openly about being ready for the coming civil war.

This is a deeply divided country.

[rocktivity]

23. "Every time there's a Mueller firing scare -- and this is not the first --

...(A) few Republicans, to their credit, do step forward and say he’d better not. Lindsey Graham. Jeff Flake. And this time around, Trey Gowdy. And now Bob Corker is talking tough, too.

Great. That’s four. Out of 289."

August 1973? I was just a mere babe the woods...okay, okay, I was just mere college freshman!




rocktivity