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SHRED

(28,136 posts)
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 01:10 PM Mar 2018

Let's call Cambridge Analytica what it is





Kaz Weida
@kazweida
Could we stop calling Cambridge Analytica a data company?

It’s funded by the Mercers and formerly run by Steve Bannon to exploit data illegally to swing elections for the GOP.

They also dabble in prostitutes, bribery & blackmail.

It’s more criminal enterprise than corporation.
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Let's call Cambridge Analytica what it is (Original Post) SHRED Mar 2018 OP
K&R... spanone Mar 2018 #1
Just like the Trump crime family, legit looking front YessirAtsaFact Mar 2018 #2
Ditto the republican party vlyons Mar 2018 #31
Spot-on. volstork Mar 2018 #3
1967 Mafia Boss said OhNo-Really Mar 2018 #4
That's exactly right. Those in media who portray this as just a political battle between a few wiggs Mar 2018 #8
And possible all-hands on deck before and after elections erronis Mar 2018 #11
post from Seth Abramson on Twitter: wiggs Mar 2018 #32
And yet that truth is not heard marlakay Mar 2018 #5
Obama used voter registration and visitors to his site bigbrother05 Mar 2018 #10
I know i just hate that what you said marlakay Mar 2018 #25
Trump never tried grassroots organizing, they just bought their way in bigbrother05 Mar 2018 #38
The whole damn GOP is a criminal enterprise at this point! Initech Mar 2018 #6
+1,000,000 THIS!!! diva77 Mar 2018 #27
Let's refer to them as a data mining and extortion syndicate. OregonBlue Mar 2018 #7
Corporation criminal enterprise potato potahto lame54 Mar 2018 #9
Yup, yup, yup Farmer-Rick Mar 2018 #36
It looks like SCL/CA might actually belong to the Russians neohippie Mar 2018 #12
Theres no way that Cambridge professor randomly gave the info away to CA - he had deep ties to bettyellen Mar 2018 #19
He got "grants" from the Russian government for research. Farmer-Rick Mar 2018 #37
I just saw hes coming out saying CA is scapegoating him and it didnt happen the way they say. bettyellen Mar 2018 #39
LOL Blue_Tires Mar 2018 #13
K&R orangecrush Mar 2018 #14
And they are propagandists jayschool2013 Mar 2018 #15
thank you, Shred saidsimplesimon Mar 2018 #16
You're welcome SHRED Mar 2018 #24
Yup, "more criminal enterprise than corporation." Nitram Mar 2018 #17
With their extensive use of former alphabet agency spies, its starting to look more like a private suffragette Mar 2018 #18
Which is really concerning since Trump has talked about privatizing or creating new agencies bettyellen Mar 2018 #20
It is remarkably the same template. Very good catch. suffragette Mar 2018 #22
Criminal Enterprise is A-okay with me peggysue2 Mar 2018 #21
Extortion Ring! Drahthaardogs Mar 2018 #23
Are we talking TREASON of the Trumpistas, Mercer's, GOP Senators and Reps that used CA Sparko55 Mar 2018 #26
Robert Mercer made his Fortune by gaming the markets Thunderbeast Mar 2018 #28
Good point FakeNoose Mar 2018 #33
At what point does the Mercers and CA and Fox become co-conspirators in this criminal conspiracy? pecosbob Mar 2018 #29
They won't be. Kablooie Mar 2018 #30
K! Cha Mar 2018 #34
Cambridge wants its name back. SunSeeker Mar 2018 #35

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
4. 1967 Mafia Boss said
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 01:19 PM
Mar 2018

"We will send our boys to Ivy League Colleges to legitimize the Business."

The Many Mob Bosses' kids did just that.

Now, we have a well-educated, global mob behind the curtains of politics, corporations, think tanks, non-profits, and poppy fields.

wiggs

(7,811 posts)
8. That's exactly right. Those in media who portray this as just a political battle between a few
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 02:06 PM
Mar 2018

power hungry, despotic republicans and some American democrats are missing the forest for the trees.

This is a global battle...and the oligarchs have already concentrated wealth and power to a degree that makes this an uphill battle for the 99.9%.

And those worldwide corporations, oligarchs, crime families, think tanks, RW owned media outlets will not sit on the sidelines while their fates are determined by minor mid-term elections in the US. They ARE NOT sitting on the sidelines and have been gearing up for this for a LONG time. So...it has to be all hands on deck for the mid-terms and beyond.

erronis

(15,217 posts)
11. And possible all-hands on deck before and after elections
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 02:32 PM
Mar 2018

Based on recent history it is totally conceivable that the elections will be rigged (like don's BFF country). It is also conceivable that there will be nation-changing actions happening outside of any "peaceful" transfer of power.

Don't place all of our faith in a fair ballot box.

wiggs

(7,811 posts)
32. post from Seth Abramson on Twitter:
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 08:57 PM
Mar 2018


I don't mind saying—only because this is certainly what historians will say 50 years on—that Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign was the largest and most far-ranging criminal enterprise to ever take on the guise of a political operation in the history of American politics.


Seth

marlakay

(11,446 posts)
5. And yet that truth is not heard
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 01:24 PM
Mar 2018

On mainstream. Listening to the girls on view arguing about it and Megan saying that Obama’s data mining was the same.

Sunny said it wasn’t but not for this reason just because they were sneaky in getting info with quizzes.

She also said Obama was doing it to spread his message not to spread fake news.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
10. Obama used voter registration and visitors to his site
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 02:27 PM
Mar 2018

to build lists to get volunteers to phone bank, etc. Those then gather info given from the people contacted with permission. They didn't use stolen data or push polls the way the GOP does routinely.

Cambridge used Facebook's ad sales apparatus to devise clickbait that then mined (stole) user data to expand beyond anything they paid for or had authority to use. This helped them refine their fake news & RF'ing to swing enough to elect Trump. They weren't paid enough by the Trump campaign to cover what they did ($6M vs. $100M estimated value), so who else was paying for their work?

Facebook didn't really care as long as they got their initial cut via sales tools and the extra dollars for clicks. It only became an issue for them when their users called them out.

marlakay

(11,446 posts)
25. I know i just hate that what you said
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 04:49 PM
Mar 2018

Isn’t what most people hear, they hear he did the same which like all other lies out there get believed and drives me nuts!

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
38. Trump never tried grassroots organizing, they just bought their way in
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 01:05 PM
Mar 2018

He didn't need the little people, except as a backdrop for his rallies and even then he couldn't fill the places.

Farmer-Rick

(10,151 posts)
36. Yup, yup, yup
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 08:26 AM
Mar 2018

Do folks really believe most corporations are not crooked?

Corporation or organized crime syndicate, one in the same.

neohippie

(1,142 posts)
12. It looks like SCL/CA might actually belong to the Russians
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 02:45 PM
Mar 2018

This thread seems to indicate a link between Alpha bank and SCL the parent company that started Cambridge Analytica

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210383859

I posted links in there with more information about CA that needs to be looked into

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
19. Theres no way that Cambridge professor randomly gave the info away to CA - he had deep ties to
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 04:00 PM
Mar 2018

Russia- including funding. No one gives that much data away.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
39. I just saw hes coming out saying CA is scapegoating him and it didnt happen the way they say.
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 02:17 PM
Mar 2018

But he’s playing super dumb. That he was told “everyone does it” and he’s such a silly happy go lucky guy that he’s the furthest thing from a spy you’d ever imagine! Oh man. That also didn’t ring true!

Nitram

(22,776 posts)
17. Yup, "more criminal enterprise than corporation."
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 03:52 PM
Mar 2018

Black ops, bribery, extortion, blackmail -whatever it takes. for money.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
18. With their extensive use of former alphabet agency spies, its starting to look more like a private
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 03:55 PM
Mar 2018

global CIA, MI5, etc operation that is targeted at ensuring the far right is heading governments and agendas.

They are ranging far beyond Le Carre’s Fiction.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
20. Which is really concerning since Trump has talked about privatizing or creating new agencies
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 04:01 PM
Mar 2018

loyal to him only of course. Same template.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
22. It is remarkably the same template. Very good catch.
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 04:11 PM
Mar 2018

Thank goodness there are still string investigative news teams at places like The Guardian and Channel 4.
The stronger privacy laws in the UK mean we might learn more about all of this.

peggysue2

(10,826 posts)
21. Criminal Enterprise is A-okay with me
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 04:07 PM
Mar 2018

The shoe that fits. Particularly after hearing the admissions from Nix himself on the Channel 4 expose. Ukrainian women, compromising video and bribery with a capital "B". This is fraud and exploitation for all who can afford it.

The irony, of course, is that it's compromising video that has crumbled the enterprise's shell, marked it for what it is: a concerted assault on constitutional democracies around the world. For power and profit of obliging billionaires and mobsters.

One piece of the globalized Mafia is unravelling before our eyes.

There will be others.

 

Sparko55

(52 posts)
26. Are we talking TREASON of the Trumpistas, Mercer's, GOP Senators and Reps that used CA
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 07:07 PM
Mar 2018

Just wondering if all the check boxes of TREASON have been met.

Especially, the one about give aid and comfort to the enemy during times of War. Seems like we have been at war now for some 15+ years, and the GOP is damn happy to keep the spending going for their ultimate military adventurism started by Dubya. How's that working for ya now that everything hidden is being uncovered.

Seems the same with the Facebook.

If the Supreme Court in all it's wisdom, called Corporations "People", then we need to see Texas put some corps to death (as has been said many times)

Or at least strip them and Zuck of all their ill gotten gains.

As they say in Russian:

Za Vstrechu (To our meeting)

To their meeting(s) indeed.

Thunderbeast

(3,404 posts)
28. Robert Mercer made his Fortune by gaming the markets
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 07:47 PM
Mar 2018

As a hedge fund manager, Mercer developed algorithms that would place "stalking" trades and watch how others responded to them. By instantly seeing and analyzing these market moves, Mercer's firm would place bigger bets. When the markets shifted, the algorithms would make instantaneous transactions to maximize their gains.

The same technology was applied to political market segmentation so that messaging could be tailored to the folks with the most leverage on elections around the world. Posts made on social media would be placed, and Cambridge Analytica would closely monitor who and how many people responded and filter those results through their modeling tools. By precise targeting of emotional messages, and fueling a metastatic spread of these messages through social media, Cambridge Analytica has succeeded in changing leadership of nations, and begun a breakup of the European Union.

In overlaying blackmail operations through bribery and prostitutes, Cambridge Analytical became a "full service" elections corruption shop. The Mercers and Steve Bannon should be prosecuted under RICO statutes in the US, and privacy law violations in the UK where penalties are harsher.

FakeNoose

(32,613 posts)
33. Good point
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 09:23 PM
Mar 2018

I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out Robert Mercer wrote the proprietary code that was developed for CA. I'm sure he's more than just a financial backer, because this stuff is right up his alley. Maybe it will be enough to finally put this guy in jail. Save a cell for Rebekah too, just in case.



pecosbob

(7,534 posts)
29. At what point does the Mercers and CA and Fox become co-conspirators in this criminal conspiracy?
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 08:07 PM
Mar 2018

There was in fact a criminal conspiracy. It may not currently be illegal for the Mercers and Cambridge Analytica and Fox to intentionally manipulate the electoral process the way they did in 2016 (I'm betting it is, though), but prior knowledge of the involvement of foreign participants (said participation being a felony) makes all the above listed part of the criminal conspiracy right along with the Russian nationals.

Kablooie

(18,623 posts)
30. They won't be.
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 08:38 PM
Mar 2018

The Mercers have too many well paid connections in government to ever suffer any consequences.

They belong in prison but they will remain free to corrupt every election in the future.

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