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Ashamed Fox commentator quits: (Original Post) Kingofalldems Mar 2018 OP
boom- poboy2 Mar 2018 #1
"much-needed outlet for conservative voices ... mere propaganda machine" FiveGoodMen Mar 2018 #20
Well said!! diva77 Mar 2018 #23
He has the same credibility as Manson. Phony zero. olegramps Mar 2018 #52
To us, perhaps. You should see him as a potential weapon that is turned against poboy2 Mar 2018 #53
What took you so long? njhoneybadger Mar 2018 #2
Yup! n/t phylny Mar 2018 #5
Wonder what pushed him over the edge. Squinch Mar 2018 #3
Russia coverup. more- poboy2 Mar 2018 #4
Thank you. He's just realizing this. A little slow on the uptake, that one. Squinch Mar 2018 #10
he was a repuke who was fine swimming in FOX NEWS shit for DECADES Skittles Mar 2018 #47
Yep. They created the monster and now they don't want to be associated with it. Squinch Mar 2018 #50
Fox (R) is now harming America Achilleaze Mar 2018 #18
THEY HAVE BEEN HARMING AMERICA SINCE THEY STARTED Skittles Mar 2018 #48
...and yet he still couldn't resist taking a jab at PRESIDENT OBAMA. /nt sdfernando Mar 2018 #29
I noticed that. Assholes gotta be assholes. Squinch Mar 2018 #30
Yeah, fuck him. n/t rzemanfl Mar 2018 #31
I respect him GWC58 Mar 2018 #42
Yeah, he lost me there. LisaM Mar 2018 #33
These people suffer from 2 afflictions. sdfernando Mar 2018 #34
Could be an attempt to try and get the average Fox News viewers attention. Oneironaut Mar 2018 #35
Good post...appreciate your perspective... Docreed2003 Mar 2018 #51
His grandkids called him a white wing racist Archie Bunker, Hoyt Mar 2018 #26
Maybe he had spiritual moment bdamomma Mar 2018 #27
Fox fans will just say he was a closet liberal the whole time.... mreilly Mar 2018 #6
... DonViejo Mar 2018 #7
Thanks Gen. Barry McCaffrey. Generals... Colonels... do your patriotic duty! Tatiana Mar 2018 #8
His full letter at buzzfeed is worth the time to read. (yes, I know he was a nasty Obama critic) hlthe2b Mar 2018 #9
As an intelligence professional, I can tell you that the Steele dossier rings true--that's how the R underpants Mar 2018 #11
sure takes some a long time to wake up Angry Dragon Mar 2018 #12
Sokath! His eyes open gratuitous Mar 2018 #13
Shep announced he was taking a vacation after the heated exchange w/Hannity & Ingrham poboy2 Mar 2018 #14
Sorry, Col. Fox has always been a propaganda machine and for some reason you stayed with them. politicaljunkie41910 Mar 2018 #15
Over a decade? malaise Mar 2018 #16
Yes. A day late and dollar short "Lt. Col." Boomerproud Mar 2018 #19
Unless hes dead GWC58 Mar 2018 #44
and handmade34 Mar 2018 #17
In other words, "I have made enough money, so my morals have kicked in." dameatball Mar 2018 #21
That's an oxymoron "ashamed Fox News..." BigmanPigman Mar 2018 #22
Hahaha now?? Ya think? awesomerwb1 Mar 2018 #24
Only took 10 years? progressoid Mar 2018 #25
I hear they have openings at MSNBC infullview Mar 2018 #28
Maybe he will go to GWC58 Mar 2018 #45
Another example of how weird the world has become PJMcK Mar 2018 #32
A breath of fresh air. Would that there were more. nt LAS14 Mar 2018 #36
about a decade too long there sherlock...weren't you paying attention before... Thomas Hurt Mar 2018 #37
What took so fucking long, asshole? I only ask because I'd really like to know. Why so long, Col? marble falls Mar 2018 #38
This guy figured out that he was just not QUITE... dchill Mar 2018 #39
Ashamed. More like Asshat. Sparko55 Mar 2018 #40
If you were EVER proud to be with that "association".....FUCK YOU!! Ferrets are Cool Mar 2018 #41
At what point does Fox and CA and the Mercers become part of the criminal conspiracy? pecosbob Mar 2018 #43
Take this Fox job and shove it. oasis Mar 2018 #46
Better late than never nt backtoblue Mar 2018 #49
 

poboy2

(2,078 posts)
1. boom-
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 04:29 PM
Mar 2018

"Fox has degenerated from providing a legitimate and much-needed outlet for conservative voices to a mere propaganda machine for a destructive and ethically ruinous administration," wrote Peters, a Fox News "strategic analyst."

 

poboy2

(2,078 posts)
53. To us, perhaps. You should see him as a potential weapon that is turned against
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 02:42 PM
Mar 2018

its maker. Encourage him to seek and destroy all Trump loyalists.

 

poboy2

(2,078 posts)
4. Russia coverup. more-
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 04:31 PM
Mar 2018

In my view, Fox has degenerated from providing a legitimate and much-needed outlet for conservative voices to a mere propaganda machine for a destructive and ethically ruinous administration. When prime-time hosts--who have never served our country in any capacity--dismiss facts and empirical reality to launch profoundly dishonest assaults on the FBI, the Justice Department, the courts, the intelligence community (in which I served) and, not least, a model public servant and genuine war hero such as Robert Mueller--all the while scaremongering with lurid warnings of "deep-state" machinations-- I cannot be part of the same organization, even at a remove. To me, Fox News is now wittingly harming our system of government for profit.
As a Russia analyst for many years, it also has appalled me that hosts who made their reputations as super-patriots and who, justifiably, savaged President Obama for his duplicitous folly with Putin, now advance Putin's agenda by making light of Russian penetration of our elections and the Trump campaign. Despite increasingly pathetic denials, it turns out that the "nothing-burger" has been covered with Russian dressing all along. And by the way: As an intelligence professional, I can tell you that the Steele dossier rings true--that's how the Russians do things.. The result is that we have an American president who is terrified of his counterpart in Moscow.
I do not apply the above criticisms in full to Fox Business, where numerous hosts retain a respect for facts and maintain a measure of integrity (nor is every host at Fox News a propaganda mouthpiece--some have shown courage). I have enjoyed and valued my relationship with Fox Business, and I will miss a number of hosts and staff members. You're the grown-ups.
Also, I deeply respect the hard-news reporters at Fox, who continue to do their best as talented professionals in a poisoned environment. These are some of the best men and women in the business..
So, to all of you: Thanks, and, as our president's favorite world leader would say, "Das vidanya."

Skittles

(153,150 posts)
47. he was a repuke who was fine swimming in FOX NEWS shit for DECADES
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 01:03 AM
Mar 2018

now he's afraid of drowning in it? FUCK HIM.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
50. Yep. They created the monster and now they don't want to be associated with it.
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 07:54 AM
Mar 2018

Golem Owning Party.

Skittles

(153,150 posts)
48. THEY HAVE BEEN HARMING AMERICA SINCE THEY STARTED
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 01:04 AM
Mar 2018

Last edited Wed Mar 21, 2018, 08:40 PM - Edit history (1)

they have ALWAYS been repuke propaganda

GWC58

(2,678 posts)
42. I respect him
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 07:46 PM
Mar 2018

even less. This was not, repeat, not a “Profiles in Courage.” Yes, fuck him, indeed!! Here’s my salute 🖕🏻to this tepid POS!

LisaM

(27,801 posts)
33. Yeah, he lost me there.
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 06:07 PM
Mar 2018

I didn't realize Obama had duplicitous behavior with Putin. What's he implying, exactly?

sdfernando

(4,930 posts)
34. These people suffer from 2 afflictions.
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 06:09 PM
Mar 2018

CDS & ODS..






















Clinton derangement syndrome...and its counterpart Obama derangement syndrome.

Oneironaut

(5,492 posts)
35. Could be an attempt to try and get the average Fox News viewers attention.
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 06:10 PM
Mar 2018

They will probably do this anyways, but most Fox News viewers will see this and go, “Fake News! Another Obama suck-up and Libtard!” Politics is binary in their mind - it’s either people like them, or the enemy.

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
51. Good post...appreciate your perspective...
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 08:05 AM
Mar 2018

We can disagree on your take on Obama's actions but the brunt of your argument is spot on. Thanks for sharing your insight.

bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
27. Maybe he had spiritual moment
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 05:53 PM
Mar 2018

remember when John Boehner met the Pope and then resigned. You never know.

 

mreilly

(2,120 posts)
6. Fox fans will just say he was a closet liberal the whole time....
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 04:32 PM
Mar 2018

... these people don't DO "reflecting our our mistakes and learning from the past."

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
8. Thanks Gen. Barry McCaffrey. Generals... Colonels... do your patriotic duty!
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 04:34 PM
Mar 2018

McCaffrey led the way with his condemnation and I think many retired (and perhaps active duty) military are listening.

Fight for your country!

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
9. His full letter at buzzfeed is worth the time to read. (yes, I know he was a nasty Obama critic)
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 04:34 PM
Mar 2018

but still. He doesn't leave anything on the table vis-a-vis Fox.

underpants

(182,769 posts)
11. As an intelligence professional, I can tell you that the Steele dossier rings true--that's how the R
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 04:36 PM
Mar 2018

As an intelligence professional, I can tell you that the Steele dossier rings true--that's how the Russians do things.

 

poboy2

(2,078 posts)
14. Shep announced he was taking a vacation after the heated exchange w/Hannity & Ingrham
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 04:52 PM
Mar 2018

Could this be a hat tip to Shep?

Also, I deeply respect the hard-news reporters at Fox, who continue to do their best as talented professionals in a poisoned environment.

Maybe you are correct.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
15. Sorry, Col. Fox has always been a propaganda machine and for some reason you stayed with them.
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 04:54 PM
Mar 2018

Better late than never, but don't fool yourself into believing that was NEWS you were listening to all this time. My guess is it was the women's flesh that kept you coming back. It was designed to do just that. What other NEWS station has such scantily dressed women like that with all that flesh showing, to report the NEWS? It was designed to lure middle aged men, such as your yourself, to their porn machine, and you kept coming back because your liked it. Say Hello to the Reverend for me on Sunday.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
17. and
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 04:55 PM
Mar 2018

wise Republicans are leaving the Party...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/former-congressman-from-hawaii-quits-gop-citing-trump/2018/03/19/f1075854-2bd1-11e8-8dc9-3b51e028b845_story.html?utm_term=.1687314eef97

“I can no longer stand with a Republican Party that is led by a man I firmly believe is taking the party of Lincoln in a direction I fundamentally disagree with, and a party that is unwilling to stand up to him,” Djou wrote.
Djou said he’s most disappointed by the failure of the GOP to clearly and consistently condemn Trump’s “childish behavior.”
“Sadly today, too many Republicans either applaud Trump’s tirades or greet them with silent acceptance,” Djou said. “This leads to an implicit ratification by the GOP of Trump’s undisciplined, uninformed and unfocused leadership as a core part of the Republican Party.”


PJMcK

(22,031 posts)
32. Another example of how weird the world has become
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 06:05 PM
Mar 2018

Thanks, Trump.

Ralph Peters has been a hard-right hawk for decades. He writes a column for Murdoch's NY Post and it's syndicated around the country. I've read his columns for years as a primer on the opposition's views. He's intelligent but crazy. He writes well but his views are extreme.

Yet now, he and I are in agreement regarding Fox News even though I hold the extreme opposite views that he has. This is one of the crazy results of Trump's disruption of the American Life. It's disconcerting to be in agreement with a man I've disagreed with since the 1908s!

His decision to leave Fox causes me to have some respect for him. The cognitive dissonance is freaking me out!

Time to find an inebriant.

dchill

(38,472 posts)
39. This guy figured out that he was just not QUITE...
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 06:51 PM
Mar 2018

a big enough asshole to be on Fox. Not QUITE. He's ALMOST qualified to be a FoxNews AssHole. He detects a tiny, glowing cinder of reality in the center of his conbrain.

 

Sparko55

(52 posts)
40. Ashamed. More like Asshat.
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 06:53 PM
Mar 2018

What is it with old white men that have taken the country down the road to perdition, that try to salvage their souls after having sold out for so long. They did what they did, and do what they do, because they enjoyed the "perks" of the job - let's see:
Bimbo land in the Fox Studios
Muy macho he-man of the universe colleagues - like Sean, Billo, and others,
Swell guys to work for like Roger, and most importantly,
A paycheck from the top dog Rupert.

And now they stare into the abyss of their errant ways and lives and seek some last minute absolution.

How many times do these fellows have to go through their un-examined lives on the TV on The FOX.

Live with it buddy. It's all yours and those you lead in the cheering chorus of 15 years of unmitigated disasters brought to the USA and the world by your fellow travelers, Dubya, Dick "5 Draft Deferments" Cheney, and now Lt. Bone Spurs Trump. Have at it with your Swift Boat buddies who denigrated first John Kerry and then President Obama. You only have your Medicare and Veterans Benefits because the aforementioned Kerry and Obama worked their asses off so you dumbasses would not be shorn of your benefits by Paulie "Ayn Rand Jr." Ryan, or Mitch "the Turtle" McConnell, whose attitude is "thanks for your service, we don't believe you earned any benefits."

WAKE UP DUMB F and SMELL THE COFFEE.

Oh yeah, and get ready for the hot time you'll have with your "buds" in the hereafter.

pecosbob

(7,537 posts)
43. At what point does Fox and CA and the Mercers become part of the criminal conspiracy?
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 07:47 PM
Mar 2018

There was a criminal conspiracy to interfere with the elections in this country. The conspiracy included Trump and his family, the Mercers, the Russian government, members of Congress and active members of the FBI, as well as a wide web of witting and unwitting participants across multiple continents. At some point, the witting participants on our side of the water (the Mercers and their 'tools' Cambridge Analytica and Fox News) all became witting participants in a conspiracy to harm the Unites States of America. If the Russians that we just levied sanctions against are charged with a criminal conspiracy, why are their accomplices here not also being indicted? If there was a criminal conspiracy and that effort was aided by American citizens then they are also guilty of conspiracy. It may not currently be illegal for Americans to blatantly manipulate the electoral process as was done, but to do so with awareness of the involvement of foreign participants, it becomes a felony. Like the man said in the article above...these corporations are actively seeking to harm our electoral process, our government and it's ability to function and to harm our nation. At what point do they become enemies of the people?

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