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babylonsister

(171,057 posts)
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 05:06 PM Mar 2018

Charles P. Pierce: Trump's New Lawyer Is Someone I Remember Well

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a19494233/joseph-digenova-trump/

Trump's New Lawyer Is Someone I Remember Well
A visit from the ghost of presidential impeachments past.
By Charles P. Pierce
Mar 20, 2018


For those of us who were amazed and (ultimately) appalled as the Great Penis Hunt unfolded in the years 1997 and 1998, seeing Joseph diGenova back on the national stage, this time as a mouthpiece supporting a president being dogged by a special prosecutor, is proof enough that, whatever else we may think of Her, God has a deft hand for the plot twist.

Back 20 years ago, diGenova and his wife, a lawyer named Victoria Toensing, were regulars on the then-nascent political gab circuit. (This was when people like Geraldo Rivera and Charles Grodin had shows, and when Chris Matthews was going completely bananas over the wandering presidential priapus, and when Kellyanne Conway was Kellyanne Fitzpatrick, and when you and I were young, mother.) But diGenova was an all-purpose opinion grinder.

For example, back in 1997, he thought the only salvation for the Republic was to have Ken Starr indict Bill Clinton for lying about several blowjobs, and for obstructing justice in the case of several blowjobs. In The Wall Street Journal, diGenova wrote:

"Can the president of the United States be indicted? The question is of more than academic concern now. Every day brings fresh revelations of potentially criminal conduct by Bill Clinton, Al Gore and their aides, in matters ranging from Whitewater to Filegate."


For those of you who may have joined American politics already in progress, both Whitewater and Filegate were nothingburgers; even Ken Starr admitted this to the House Judiciary Committee. Now, of course, diGenova is the newest recruit to a legal team that believes that indicting a sitting president is contrary to the rules of the Constitution, the criminal code, and cricket. And, besides, diGenova has bigger fish to fry. From Real Clear Politics:

Everything we have seen from these texts, and from all the facts developing, shows that the FBI and senior DOJ officials conspired to violate the law, and deny Donald Trump his civil rights. The motive would be that they didn't like Donald Trump, they didn't think that he was fit to be president, and they were going to do everything within their power to exonerate Hillary Clinton, and if she lost to frame Donald Trump with a false crime, because they didn't think he should be president.


He is not, as you can plainly see, a crank.

Meanwhile, diGenova’s wife, the aforementioned Ms. Toensing, is working these days at laying a few more whacks into the dead horse that is Uranium One. In the pairs competition, they earlier promoted the notion that the Obama administration was threatening witnesses in the endless Benghazi investigation. You have to give Republicans credit. They are better than a summer music-shed tour at getting the band back together again.

Fifteen years ago, partly at the urging of people whose public careers should have been ended with their involvement in the Iran-Contra scandal, President George W. Bush launched his invasion of Iraq, which remains at the top of the list of foreign-policy debacles in American history. Now we have the Whitewater Undead staggering out of the ancient crypts of cable news and back abroad in our politics again. Somebody should ring the green rooms with garlic.
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Charles P. Pierce: Trump's New Lawyer Is Someone I Remember Well (Original Post) babylonsister Mar 2018 OP
I sent this to the Greatest page flotsam Mar 2018 #1
that was a pretty good visual description flibbitygiblets Mar 2018 #6
Kick and Rec orangecrush Mar 2018 #2
These people always come back with the Rs mcar Mar 2018 #3
When they run out of ideas they regurgitate their own vomit and spew out the old lies. BSdetect Mar 2018 #4
Too good malaise Mar 2018 #5
Charlie Pierce is a god. K&R nt scarletwoman Mar 2018 #7
K&R! nt Mountain Mule Mar 2018 #8
I well remember diGenova and Toensing. DemoTex Mar 2018 #9
thank you for that DemoTex onethatcares Mar 2018 #15
Ken Starr .. DemoTex Mar 2018 #21
Very interesting! Hekate Mar 2018 #16
Victoria Toensing mgardener Mar 2018 #10
Two revolting human beings PCIntern Mar 2018 #11
Bingo! DemoTex Mar 2018 #19
And a son following in slimy footsteps: GOP Lawyer Brady Toensing Stirs Up Vermont Politics erronis Mar 2018 #24
Oh yeah, and Kellyanne came on the scene same time as Laura Ingraham, Ann Coulter Solly Mack Mar 2018 #12
condi came out of her crypt onethatcares Mar 2018 #13
Ugh. Don't we have enough on our hands without these ms liberty Mar 2018 #14
just saw a clip of digenova and lou dobbs...both deranged. spanone Mar 2018 #17
Oh, he's THAT guy? FakeNoose Mar 2018 #18
Well written JohnnyRingo Mar 2018 #20
k&r bagimin Mar 2018 #22
. Achilleaze Mar 2018 #23

DemoTex

(25,394 posts)
9. I well remember diGenova and Toensing.
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 07:04 PM
Mar 2018

And their savior, Ken Starr, and his Clinton inquisition (which wasn't really about the blue dress, and all that). Ken Starr was payback for Bill Clinton's successful attack on Big Tobacco. During the inquisition, Ken Starr was riding around the USA - not in his Chevrolet - but in the Gulfstream III corporate jet of a company called Philip-Morris.
I had been a corporate pilot (flew for Ken Lay, pre-Enron, for a while) before I became an airline pilot. My old buds at Butler Aviation, the FBO at DCA (Washington National Airport), would keep me in the loop about the ramp intrigue with the real jet-setters. Thus the news feed on Ken Starr's comings and goings.

onethatcares

(16,166 posts)
15. thank you for that DemoTex
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 07:49 PM
Mar 2018

I wasn't aware of the tie in tween Big tobacco and the Clintons.

I just hadn't heard of it before. Now on to more searching

Thanks

mgardener

(1,816 posts)
10. Victoria Toensing
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 07:24 PM
Mar 2018

Lost her credibility whaen she outed Valerie Plame.
Remember she claimed she was not a covert CIA operative.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
24. And a son following in slimy footsteps: GOP Lawyer Brady Toensing Stirs Up Vermont Politics
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 04:44 PM
Mar 2018
https://www.sevendaysvt.com/vermont/sunlight-and-scandal-gop-lawyer-stirs-up-vermont-politics/Content?oid=6725773

Maybe it's genetic, or maybe they feed at the same trough. Maybe they don't know any better or probably they like the money and attention.

Solly Mack

(90,762 posts)
12. Oh yeah, and Kellyanne came on the scene same time as Laura Ingraham, Ann Coulter
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 07:34 PM
Mar 2018

known as Scaife's "Blonde Bimbos" (Richard Mellon Scaife /Arkansas Project/attacks against the Clintons)

As well as the now dead Barbara Olson.

I remember Victoria Toensing and diGenova. I remember them all.

onethatcares

(16,166 posts)
13. condi came out of her crypt
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 07:35 PM
Mar 2018

I'm eating popcorn and waiting for the Rumsfeld guy to be resurrected. CAUSE YOU KNOW IT'S GONNA HAPPEN!

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
20. Well written
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 08:05 PM
Mar 2018

and certainly a good overview of Trump's legal addition.

This shook loose a few memories from the Clinton years. I'm glad someone thought to write that stuff down. hahaha

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