Without Cambridge Analytica, tRUmp was unelectable.

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[DonaldsRump]

1. Devil's advocate

Don't get me wrong - I believe there are huge criminal actions that have been involved.

I have one question - I was speaking to a wingnut recently, and the attitude that this person had is that "how is this any different than any commercial on US TV....all companies use this kind of marketing."

Hillary said it best, as far as I am aware - the key issue is how did the Russian trolls know where and to whom to place their ads. That could only have come from the Trump campaign. And that is the essence of collusion.

However, for day-to-day purposes in dealing with the dark side, is there anything else?

As I said, this is TOTALLY corrupt. However, we all know what the wingnuts will say, and I want to be able to respond to them!

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2. Facts and truth does not work with... wing-nuts....

So if you want to get thru to a winger....play to their fears....

[DonaldsRump]

3. Yup...totally agree.

I think that HRC's comment recently that the real issue is that how did the Russian trolls (aka the Russian government) know which voter in which precinct to target is the key to the collusion issue.

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5. If Hillary said that...link please...

[DonaldsRump]

7. Here is a recent example

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/20/hillary-clinton-questions-whether-cambridge-analytica-helped/

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8. Ok, thanks for the link...next...

If this....The real question is how did the Russians know how to target their messages so precisely to undecided voters in Wisconsin or Michigan or Pennsylvania – that is really the nub of the question. ....is answered, then it is conspiracy and potentially treason.

[LishaD35]

4. National tv or news paper ads

Need a “paid for” by line. This ad was paid for by the National Republican party, etc. Everything done on the internet doesn’t require that identification.

No one now knows where their info is coming from. Then they insert links to blogs and other “news” articles that back up what they already think. This “news” is directed at people that are already leaning that way and it backs up what they are already thinking.

“See, everybody is saying it!”

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26. This is nothing like commercials on TV. Watch Christopher Wylie's interviews.

They had former military psy ops people on the project. They took all the archived information in a given FB user's account and made a psychological profile that allowed them, according to Wylie, to know the user better than the user could know him or herself.

When they profiled, the were specifically looking for the areas of greatest neurosis, anxiety, and paranoia. They found such areas where people might not even know they held them, but the profiles could pinpoint where these fears and anxieties were.

They also looked for how the user best accepted new information, whether from blogs or established sites, or referrals from friends or whatever. They created bogus versions of these things.

With all that in place, they fed false information to each user based on his or her greatest areas of fear. They fed the information to the users in the form that was preferred by the user, from the sources that were most trusted by the user. As they continued to feed the information to the user, they ratcheted up the message so the user would not notice that they were going farther and farther down the rabbit hole.

This is nothing like commercials on TV.

[Tatiana]

6. Where is Jeb Bush?

He ought to be expressing some outrage.

Likewise Lil Marco Rubio and Lyin Ted... Where are these guys?

[MrsCoffee]

12. Lyin Ted is under fire himself.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/107838528

[Initech]

9. This is check mate. All cards are on the table.

Your move, republicans.

[Cha]

10. K!

[poboy2]

11. Exposed: Undercover secrets of Trumps data firm

Executives claimed they “ran all the digital campaign, the television campaign and our data informed all the strategy” for President Trump.

In the third part of a Channel 4 News investigation into Cambridge Analytica, bosses also talked about:

The full scale of their pivotal work in Trump’s election win
How they avoid Congressional investigations into their foreign clients
Setting up proxy organisations to feed untraceable messages onto social media
Using a secret email system where messages self-destruct and leave no trace
Cambridge Analytica’s involvement in the “Defeat Crooked Hilary” brand of attack ads

[GeorgeHayduke]

13. Who is @countercheckist?

I'm all for common support, but the skeptic in me wants to validate the words being spoon-fed to me.

I legit have no problem being uncomfortable by not burying me head in the sand listening to pretty words spoken by people invested in garnering my attention.

For all I know @counterchecist is the home shopping network with something marketable to liberals.

Also, if this is legit, sorry in advance, I dont tweet. Im indeed naive to a great many things social media (gladly).

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14. The facts remain the same....the messenger is a student of Cambridge Analytica

[GeorgeHayduke]

15. A beyond cryptic message

that obfuscates a legit response to my question. Cloak-and-dagger tradecraft opinions render real transparency to appear as though one should be fitting a tinfoil hat.

Unless, that is, one really enjoys the texture of Alcoa aluminum upon their brow.

This is meaningless bullshit and a bit of fanciful masturbation unless it can be verified.

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16. ...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142019408

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https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/17/data-war-whistleblower-christopher-wylie-faceook-nix-bannon-trump

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[GeorgeHayduke]

17. Both saw it and read the transcripts.

My question was not about CA but, rather, quite clearly, "who is @countercheckist"

It seems as though I am a keen goose and you're hungry for foi gras.

I simply want to be convinced, thus far @countercheckist is a crap account pushing radical, unsubstantiated hyperbole. I'm not saying theyre either right or wrong, just that there is no groundwork for me to give them any credibility.

Who are they? Why should I I listen? Im not asking for peer review, but insiders don't post on relatively obscure liberal forums with arcane info just to remain obscure in their identity. I just want to know the bona fides of someone claiming to be in-the-know.

I think that's beyond responsible.

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18. Here....

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[GeorgeHayduke]

19. Cool.

@TheRickWilson and @TheFactsStated are not totally convincing. Mostly because even I could register such usernames.

Sorry, you haven't passed the test. You've attempted to get me to buy-in, but you haven't answered my question; frankly, you've actively endeavored to avoid it. Who is the genuine author of the claims?


I retired at the age of 38. It wasn't by virtue of investing in bullshit.

Im calling it.

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20. No, Liberals Are Not Falling for Conspiracy Theories Just Like Conservatives Do

https://newrepublic.com/article/142828/no-liberals-not-falling-conspiracy-theories-just-like-conservatives

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21. And here...

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/953325739671261191.html

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22. And here...

http://tweetstalker.com/counterchekist

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23. And here....

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24. And here....

You have officially been designated

Persona non grata...in my world

Goodbye....

[GeorgeHayduke]

25. I beat ya to it, but it doesn't change the fact

that you still haven't anwered my question.

Post for posterity.

[mythology]

27. Of course they haven't answered the question, because it's a functionally unprovable claim

It sounds good, but there isn't direct data that can be pointed to. Unlike say for example the concrete drop in opinion polls after the second Comey announcement which cost Clinton nationally up to 4 points (ie the election). If she hadn't had the server (and I've never heard a convincing rationale for having it), she would almost certainly be president. For whatever psyops the Russians did, for however poorly the media covered the campaign, for whatever role sexism played in the race, you can't really link any of those things directly to the outcome as compared to polling. Some of that is because those had longer range impact and some of it may be that those were overstated.

[GeorgeHayduke]

29. I simply requested the identity of

the author and recieved a plethora of hyperbole and attempted rhetorical slight-of-hand. Don't post bullshit and argue flimsy crap without expecting to be called-out as a troll.

If I wanted to live in fairy-land I'd go have my palm read.

[enid602]

28. CA

Not just tRump. They also are responsible for Macri, Brexit and others.