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Stinky The Clown

(67,786 posts)
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 09:05 AM Mar 2018

Zuckerberg . . . . .

. . . . is in the Russian/Cambridge Analytica FuckingAmerica plot UP TO HIS EYEBALLS.

Facebook has been compromised and weaponized to the harm of the United States.

I think they were willingly used as a tool, not as the plot hatchers.

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Zuckerberg . . . . . (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Mar 2018 OP
Facebook personnel worked with CA Johnny2X2X Mar 2018 #1
where is he? eShirl Mar 2018 #2
This mess is further proof that capitalist greed and democracy malaise Mar 2018 #3
Ok, I seem to have missed your post Farmer-Rick Mar 2018 #9
THIS Add white supremacy to the toxic mix... OneGrassRoot Mar 2018 #18
Thanks malaise Mar 2018 #21
Thank you for linking to this prior post. volstork Mar 2018 #34
Thank you for reading it. :) n/t OneGrassRoot Mar 2018 #36
They focus grouped Nazism, literally Johnny2X2X Mar 2018 #4
And here are the details on that RandomAccess Mar 2018 #43
They were just trying to make a profit by any means necessary Farmer-Rick Mar 2018 #5
LOL - I saw yours malaise Mar 2018 #11
So, what do I do about.. I have been using FB for maybe 10 years pangaia Mar 2018 #33
Remember all that talk a while back about Zuckerberg running for President? Stinky The Clown Mar 2018 #6
No, it wasn't idle chatter dalton99a Mar 2018 #7
I have access to the page of one of the useful idiots who fell for the ploy. Baitball Blogger Mar 2018 #8
I fell for some of their crap Farmer-Rick Mar 2018 #10
It is good you post this. Very honest and important. poboy2 Mar 2018 #14
Thanks...it took a lot of soul searching to admit that I was manipulated. Farmer-Rick Mar 2018 #37
+1 Baitball Blogger Mar 2018 #38
You describe a lot of progressive leaning people. Blue_true Mar 2018 #23
Well, I never thought Hillary was the monster Trump was Farmer-Rick Mar 2018 #39
What I dont understand - 2 billion users who claim to not know that they dont own their FB data and Kashkakat v.2.0 Mar 2018 #12
Lots of people today just don't think. Blue_true Mar 2018 #25
You dont have to fill out a survey Johnny2X2X Mar 2018 #32
I don't use FB but my kids do Farmer-Rick Mar 2018 #42
The platform to launch a Psychological Operation/ information war.-nt poboy2 Mar 2018 #13
Ms. Theresa Hong of the digital operations part of the Trump campaign bragged about .... Botany Mar 2018 #15
Holy crap! PatSeg Mar 2018 #17
The amount of information is staggering. Botany Mar 2018 #19
I have a great imagination, PatSeg Mar 2018 #24
K&R! nt Mountain Mule Mar 2018 #16
I disagree. Blue_true Mar 2018 #20
disband FB CelticWinter Mar 2018 #22
Facebook knew what was going on..........guilty Angry Dragon Mar 2018 #26
EXACTLY THIS!!! LovingA2andMI Mar 2018 #27
Dump Fb. Let it become 100% Freeperville. Then it will dissolve into nothing. ffr Mar 2018 #28
He started out violating people's privacy with FaceMash, but Harvard dropped the charges. MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #29
Follow the tax breaks.....I'm sure he benefited greatly. AJT Mar 2018 #30
The slimeball sold a bunch of stock recently 🤔 we can do it Mar 2018 #31
I cannot now or have I ever been able to stand the corrupt, lying, efhmc Mar 2018 #35
Oh please. People post all kinds of personal shit online, and are surprised jmg257 Mar 2018 #40
Funny that you term it "stupid outrage" Stinky The Clown Mar 2018 #44
Facebook is a weaponized tool for nazism workinclasszero Mar 2018 #41
Like I said facebook is a un-American company. You are going to get all kinds of facebook apologists rockfordfile Mar 2018 #45

Johnny2X2X

(19,024 posts)
1. Facebook personnel worked with CA
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 09:17 AM
Mar 2018

This was a joint effort with FB employees embedded with CA the whole process.

Don't let Facebook or the Trump campaign try to scapegoat CA and then pretend they weren't all working together. The Trump Campaign was Cambridge Analytics, and Facebook was on their team as paid consultants.

It's no wonder Zuckerberg has lied about this so many times, his people were working for the Trump Campaign to facilitate all of this.

malaise

(268,885 posts)
3. This mess is further proof that capitalist greed and democracy
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 09:20 AM
Mar 2018

are incompatible. Zuckerberg real agenda was making money by any means necessary - without a fucking care about democracy.

Farmer-Rick

(10,151 posts)
9. Ok, I seem to have missed your post
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 09:52 AM
Mar 2018

Because I say the same thing down stream.

Great minds think alike.

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
18. THIS Add white supremacy to the toxic mix...
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 11:06 AM
Mar 2018

and, voila, it's obvious why the Internet, as a whole, is a cesspool. (I love the Internet and social media; there's sooooo much potential for good, but it's hard to deny the systems of oppression deeply baked into it as they are in all of our systems.)

I wrote something here in 2015 that I'm going to update in light of Zuckerberg, the Alt-Right/Nazis, Trump, Putin/Dugin, etc., because white supremacy, patriarchy/authoritarianism and exploitative/colonialist greed continue to be at the heart of it all, imo.

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/10027092022

volstork

(5,399 posts)
34. Thank you for linking to this prior post.
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 12:13 PM
Mar 2018

You made some compelling and, now more than ever, salient points. As a woman, I appreciate your emphasizing this perspective. We can think about the internet now in much the same way as many thought of television in its early days: a tool for tremendous good or enormous evil. The truth, of course, lies somewhere in the middle for both platforms, and, indeed, for almost everything we all encounter every day.

Johnny2X2X

(19,024 posts)
4. They focus grouped Nazism, literally
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 09:25 AM
Mar 2018

Zuckerberg's employees were inside CA helping Bannon develop the propaganda from their data. Zuckerberg's guys were literally helping Bannon and Trump present Nazi propaganda to focus groups and it scored well enough for them to use it to affect the election.

Zuckerberg is nothing more than a greedy twerp who's been a crook from the start, he robbed his business partners at the start of Facebook, he's a crook.

Farmer-Rick

(10,151 posts)
5. They were just trying to make a profit by any means necessary
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 09:27 AM
Mar 2018

And that my friends, is the problem with capitalism.

malaise

(268,885 posts)
11. LOL - I saw yours
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 10:30 AM
Mar 2018

and chuckled - it's that simple. It is also the reason I never signed up - when young punks with no understanding or interest in anything but accumulating wealth assume they can own my information, I stay away.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
33. So, what do I do about.. I have been using FB for maybe 10 years
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 12:09 PM
Mar 2018

to stay in touch, not so much friends, but professional friends, acquaintances, contacts, goings on in my portion of the classical music world, happenings, concerts, careers developments, buying/selling used instruments, tours---

I have posted here on DU that I never make or read political posts, oh the occasional friend will post something but even then always very progressive.. I read. click on no ads( the few that show up) Don;t see any of the crap that others here do.

I do not want to delete FB....


Stinky The Clown

(67,786 posts)
6. Remember all that talk a while back about Zuckerberg running for President?
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 09:31 AM
Mar 2018

In hindsight, I don't think that was idle chatter.

dalton99a

(81,432 posts)
7. No, it wasn't idle chatter
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 09:36 AM
Mar 2018

Last edited Wed Mar 21, 2018, 10:18 AM - Edit history (1)

https://www.thenation.com/article/a-mark-zuckerberg-presidency-isnt-ridiculous-its-terrifying/
A Mark Zuckerberg Presidency Isn’t Ridiculous—It’s Terrifying
The Facebook CEO destroyed privacy as we know it. Imagine what he’d do in the White House.
By Jake Bittle
August 18, 2017

Mark Zuckerberg is probably going to run for president. Speculation about the Facebook CEO’s political ambitions has been swirling ever since he embarked on a highly publicized “personal” tour in January to meet Facebook users all over the country. Later that month, he hired former campaign managers for George W. Bush and Barack Obama and soon after released a perplexing manifesto about “building the world we all want.” The recent news that he has brought on pollster Joel Benenson to pursue vague philanthropic “research” sparked another flurry of “Zuckerberg for President?” articles, ranging from musings on his potential platform to advice on his path to the White House.


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http://www.businessinsider.com/mark-zuckerberg-almost-didnt-do-facebook-2016-8
“I love Rome so much, that when my wife and I got married, We came to Rome on our honeymoon. I made us go to all of these different historical and classical places. So much so, that when we got back and we were looking through the photos, my wife was making fun of me, saying she thought there were three people on the honeymoon: me, her and Augustus. All the photos were different sculptures of Augustus.”


https://techcrunch.com/2017/08/28/mark-zuckerberg-and-priscilla-chan-welcome-their-second-daughter-august-into-the-world/amp/
Mark Zuckerberg and Priscilla Chan have welcomed their second daughter into the world, and her name is August. Before you ask, it’s unclear if she was named August because she was born in August. (But I highly doubt it.)




Baitball Blogger

(46,698 posts)
8. I have access to the page of one of the useful idiots who fell for the ploy.
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 09:42 AM
Mar 2018

He has become a self-perpetuating propaganda machine. How do we re-educate these people? They really do believe that everyone else is to blame for all the bad that has occurred to America, including their bad moods.

Farmer-Rick

(10,151 posts)
10. I fell for some of their crap
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 10:20 AM
Mar 2018

I must admit to a short time where I fell for, kind of was pushed towards, the propaganda. I was to the point of thinking maybe Trump wont be as awful as he appeared. What with Hillary and Obama saying how dangerous Trump was while kindly and gently stepping aside to let Hitler2.0 rob them of the presidency. I just thought that since they were so willing to give up their obvious win then maybe Trump wont be the horror show I expected it to be. Maybe all the Democratic angst over Trump was hyperbole and merely campaign rhetoric.

But I came to my senses in a couple of months. Actually in a couple of weeks, I was starting to wonder what horror is this. But it took me awhile to extract myself from the reinforced circle of lies. To quit visiting sites that were filled with Russian trolls and Trumpsters....though milder and less racist versions.

So, I have some sympathy for these manipulated souls who have not found their way out of the seductive labyrinth of lies. It requires you to admit you have made a mistake in judgement. You have to be humbled and consider your own falability. And that seems to be very difficult for authoritarian types and lazy thinkers.

 

poboy2

(2,078 posts)
14. It is good you post this. Very honest and important.
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 10:41 AM
Mar 2018

I am not going to bash you for not seeing through the conman right away.
Obvious to me the guy is a monster trying to kill democracy, but maybe back then one couldn't conceive how fascist his tendencies are.
The R's were supposed to hold him in check too. WTF happened there. There is NO CHECK.

In any event, your story is important to be considered.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
23. You describe a lot of progressive leaning people.
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 11:19 AM
Mar 2018

Who bought into the concept that Hillary was just as bad and dishonest as Trump, eventhough Hillary's and Trump's life stories said otherwise.

Farmer-Rick

(10,151 posts)
39. Well, I never thought Hillary was the monster Trump was
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 02:27 PM
Mar 2018

I always thought Hillary would win, I wanted her to win. But I wanted her to be more liberal. I didn't realize how much worse it could be.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
12. What I dont understand - 2 billion users who claim to not know that they dont own their FB data and
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 10:34 AM
Mar 2018

content - FB does! Not exactly a secret - ?? As someone on NPR stated yesterday, the "product" is not the Facebook platform, its the users and their data - that's where the profit is derived. How exactly were y'all "misled"? I mean this has all been discussed since the very earliest days of FB

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
25. Lots of people today just don't think.
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 11:23 AM
Mar 2018

Anytime you fill out surveys with things like income, political party preferences, product preferences, you are giving away data on yourself. Gatherers of that data use all types of underhanded, BUT legal means to collect that data.

Johnny2X2X

(19,024 posts)
32. You dont have to fill out a survey
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 11:58 AM
Mar 2018

Your profile and web browser history tell them as much as they need.

Farmer-Rick

(10,151 posts)
42. I don't use FB but my kids do
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 02:40 PM
Mar 2018

They say that they knew they made FB the hot product it was. But they didn't know they and all their friends, without their permission, would be used and targeted like this. Oh they knew ads and commercialization of their data would be common. They didn't think they would be manipulated and fed lies for political purposes.

Though I must say my kids are smarter than the average bear and did realize politicalization was common. They just didn't buy into the ads and crap they got fed. One closed their account and another only uses it for business.

Anyway, I noticed CA maintained that secrecy was paramount. That if people knew they were being manipulated, it would NOT have worked. They do NOT have the right to do this in secret. That is where it is a crime.

Botany

(70,483 posts)
15. Ms. Theresa Hong of the digital operations part of the Trump campaign bragged about ....
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 10:56 AM
Mar 2018

..... Facebook employees working full time inside the Trump campaign HQ.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029566031

Botany

(70,483 posts)
19. The amount of information is staggering.
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 11:07 AM
Mar 2018

But always remember that Facebook cashed the checks from Trump/Russia/Cambridge
Analytica/and good chance the NRA and they had their employees working for Trump @
Trump's HQ.


America and much of Europe is up against the largest full on organized crime network in
history .... Trump is just a small part of it.

PatSeg

(47,370 posts)
24. I have a great imagination,
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 11:21 AM
Mar 2018

but I could never have imagined how vast and pervasive this all would become. I suppose that when too many people with no real principles gain power, they could bring down everything it took decades to build, especially if the average person is apathetic.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
20. I disagree.
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 11:11 AM
Mar 2018

Zuckerberg and Sarah Sandberg are perfect examples of cases where a desire to be viewed as successful override principles. Their histories indicate that they are socially liberal, but their business required that they not deeply examine some organizations that were using their platform.

CelticWinter

(1,399 posts)
22. disband FB
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 11:12 AM
Mar 2018

and don't allow ZuckFuck access to the internet ever, he is not trust worthy, he is an enemy of America.
Celtic

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
29. He started out violating people's privacy with FaceMash, but Harvard dropped the charges.
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 11:38 AM
Mar 2018

Maybe if he hadn't gotten away with it then he would have been discouraged from building a career based on invading people's privacy.

efhmc

(14,725 posts)
35. I cannot now or have I ever been able to stand the corrupt, lying,
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 12:19 PM
Mar 2018

stealing little weasel. I have preached repeatedly that it is too invasive and that our county Dems should not use it. Didn't listen, of course.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
40. Oh please. People post all kinds of personal shit online, and are surprised
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 02:28 PM
Mar 2018

when companies mine for their data?

Stupid "outrage".

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
41. Facebook is a weaponized tool for nazism
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 02:31 PM
Mar 2018

to take over the USA and the world!

No way in hell that Zuckerberg did not know this was happening!

I just want to know how active and hands on he was in this nazi/republican plot.

rockfordfile

(8,701 posts)
45. Like I said facebook is a un-American company. You are going to get all kinds of facebook apologists
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 05:18 PM
Mar 2018

If you are a facebook apologists, then you are a trump supporter and hate our country.

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