We are about to witness the Detrumpification of America.

[shockey80]

It was Inevitable from day one. Every reason trump voters gave for voting for Trump were completely worthless. A Trump presidency could never work or survive. It was in plain site during the campaign. Thats why we can call Trump voters stupid. They ignored reality. It is the truth.

Behind the scenes, Many Republicans in congress have turned on Trump. They know we have a big problem and they know whats coming. They can't say in public yet. That will change as the election draws near and the investigation intensifies. Things are going to get a lot worse for Trump. The Republicans are going to get their asses kicked in November.

The only Republicans in congress that will stick with Trump are the Tea Party nut bags. They have no choice because they are in gerrymandered districts.

It is too late to stop the investigation, any attempt now would be an obvious obstruction of justice. Trump will have to talk to mueller. Trump will not survive this investigation. In case you have not noticed, top law firms are refusing to represent Trump. Whats that tell you.

In time, the Trump base will begin to fracture. Many will deny they voted for Trump. Some will be embarrassed. The extremists will crawl back into their sewers. We are about to witness history. Lets hope this ends without to much damage to our country and the people.

[bdamomma]

1. let's hold on

it's going to be a bumpy ride. Protests this weekend are going to be abound throughout the US and even abroad.

[MBS]

30. Seat belts secured. n/t

[Mountain Mule]

2. K&R! nt

[katmondoo]

3. I can only hope this is true.

Thanks for giving me this hope

[trotsky]

4. "Many will deny they voted for Trump. Some will be embarrassed."

I noticed a shift in a lot of comments several months ago. The shift was one away from being pro-Trump to being anti-Hillary/Obama. "Well if the Democrats hadn't nominated the most corrupt candidate ever...." - i.e., they were justifying their vote as being a rejection of one candidate rather than an approval of the other.

[Kurt V.]

17. I have many republican friends n family.

but amazingly not one voted for trump. err.

[Joediss]

37. Same here

Most of repugs in my family didn't vote for trump, but wouldn't vote for Hillary either down here in deep red Texas

[not fooled]

58. Didn't vote for

or won't ADMIT to voting for?

Over time many dumpsters will disavow their former support of the goon.

[Kurt V.]

67. some of them are lying for sure.

i just can't tell which ones..?

[cannabis_flower]

18. I noticed recently that ...

when I post things about Trump on Facebook, I hardly ever get any response from Trump people. All the last one could say was "Fake news". To which I replied "Fake response - is that all you have?"

[ailsagirl]

21. Good one!!

[Taraman]

23. I've deactivated Facebook account. I'm done.

[DBoon]

27. I would have responded with, "How is the weather in Saint Petersburg?"

nt

[flibbitygiblets]

55. "have another vodka, comrade" is another reply I'm fond of

Usually shuts them down.

[pangaia]

74. Hey now. Don't knock St Petersburg. It's one of my favorite cities.

One of the great art and music centers of the world..and a beautiful place..

At the hour of trump's inauguration i was sitting in the Marinsky Theater watching an operatic version of THE IDIOT. Hows that for timing?

[jazzcat23]

76. Most excellent reply!

[erronis]

38. trump? who?

[Bromwell]

48. I HAVE noticed less pro-tRump but more anti-Obama trash lately....

The disgruntled rube-plorables for even their squishy minds must be starting to wrap around the reality that the guy is a complete and utter buffoon, and worse.

So they may be retreating to their safe places....Hillary hate, Obama hate, Pelosi hate....all that.

[certainot]

77. that's what the radio's been blasting - that's the 'deep state' limbaugh and sons have been

spewing all over the country since inauguration

[dameatball]

5. Sounds nice, but if Trump survives Mueller I disgree with your conclusion

Sure, there are Republicans who have turned on Trump "behind the scenes." I think that becomes an epidemic if Trump is forced to leave office. However, if he survives, the Republican Party will have to support him. If they do not and he decides to run as a third party, he will suck away enough votes to throw virtually every election to the Democrats. His base will follow him for the most part.
I don't think the Repubs will be willing to split the party like that as long as Trump is still a politically viable candidate.
Having said that, I hope you are correct and I am not. For that to happen he has to be removed or at least thoroughly discredited. And that may happen.

The silver lining is that if Democrats get out and vote (and are allowed to), none of this will matter anyway.

[cungar2000]

20. Even if he survives Mueller

He's going to (or already has) step in some even deeper shit that will bring him down eventually. He's like an orange bull in a china shop on steroids a this point. He will eventually do something so obviously impeachable congress will have no choice.

[Kablooie]

6. I stilll think Trump will fire Mueller.

It doesn't matter whether legally he can or not, he will.
His base will rally around him massively so Republicans will sit and do nothing.
Their terror of Trumps base turning on them overwhelms every other consideration.
There will be no impeachment.

It will be chaos but until the election there will be no substantial action taken against Trump.

[Generic Brad]

19. They should fear those not in the base more

We are legion and overwhelmingly outnumber his rabid followers.

[Kablooie]

28. Yes but until after the election Republicans won't believe that.

They see Trump's base as the most important thing in the world for them.
More important that Justice.
More important than the Constitution.
More important than the future of the nation itself.

[erronis]

39. Sort of like how a few NRA leaders are able to influence policy?

Note I don't say NRA members, or even gun enthusiasts. Just the ones that are in it for profit and influence. (And they don't allow weapons in THEIR workplaces.)

Politicians are such a cowardly lot. Other than a few remnants that actually fought for this country, most of them are like the fakeDonny bone-spurs.

[Orsino]

60. Why would he not take the easy way out--again?

Bet on Trump to choose the course of minimal effort and the least exposure of his crimes.

[Eyeball_Kid]

79. Trumpy's fanboys are flailing for a fascist dictatorship. But it doesn't matter to them.

They want Trumpy to lead them to WHITENESS, unfettered by any Constitution or law. They see Trumpy as the strong leader who can crash through the Constitution and all of the laws supporting it. They see a revolution driven by rage.

"Facts matter"? Not so much. What matters to them is white America, where caucasians of a distinct variety dominate the cultural and economic landscape. The ugly side of their dream is that their definition of nonwhite America means that Semites (who are, by definition, caucasian), Hispanics (mostly of caucasian stock), and, of course, African Americans are objects of ridicule and hatred.

What they don't see is everything else. They've been told that any resistance to Trumpy is a conspiracy to pour water on their dreams, a conspiracy by ANYONE who can fit their need to alienate and vilify.

Notice that by most observations, Trumpy's base is driven by emotions: fear and rage. This is by design, as we now know from disclosures recently exposed regarding Cambridge Analytica. CA targeted voters who are driven by emotion, not by issues or by reasoning ability. These voters generally have fewer intellectual resources to effectively use critical thinking skills: an ability that is anathema to CA's microtargeting tactics. And let's be honest. Half of the nation's citizens have BELOW AVERAGE INTELLIGENCE, and those citizens generally rely on emotional charges to make decisions (such as who they favor in elections) because they have, by definition, fewer internal resources to rationally discriminate. They are the low hanging fruit being picked by Cambridge Analytica.

So, the entire Trumpy movement is driven by big-money data miners (the Kochs, the Mercers, etc.) who duped and manipulated a "white" population generally occupying the lower end of the intellectual spectrum.

[blake2012]

7. Let us hope so

[Kirk Lover]

8. I agree is this is why I sleep pretty well at night and why I always have alcohol on hand

just a chilling in the fridge.

[DownriverDem]

12. pence will be a nightmare

pence is a rabid religious RWNJ repub. he even stated that abortion will be banned in the country about a month ago. he will push the repub brand of Christianity which is what many repubs want for the country.

[notKeith]

13. maybe not

Pence is also up to his eyeballs in this treason - as is Ryan, McConnell, Nunes.. probably everyone on Trump's cabinet, actually.
I think - if the Dems take back the house, we could see a President Pelosi. Whether you like that scenario or not, it's a far cry better than President ChristianMisogynistLyingSackOfShit.

[onetexan]

78. Agree, I think the whole cabal will be implicated and taken down once Mueller is done

with his investigation. All of them are so deep in the crap it will need house cleaning to rid congress of the stench.

[7962]

81. They've been saying abortion was going to be banned for about 40 yrs now.

Same ol same ol

[cilla4progress]

9. I did notice that trump signs no longer up

on my cross-state drive last week....

[BillyBobBrilliant]

10. Yes, and it may cost us dearly

In the loss of life and expense of a war action entered to distract, and punish Amerika.

[DownriverDem]

11. What about pence?

pence is being protected and it stinks.

[Grammy23]

15. Not so sure about that.

Everything that tRump touches or even comes close to him gets tainted with his stench. So I am not sure they can completely isolate Pense from the toxicity of tRump. I do notice that Pense is really staying low key these days and even in photo ops with tRump, he appears to be trying to blend in with the curtains. But the foul stench of tRump taints everything around or near it, so without a hazmat suit, Pense is doomed. Couldn't Happen to a more deserving fella.

[sprinkleeninow]

54. "....blend in with the curtains." 🤣

[dameatball]

16. I am not convinced that the Repubs will hang their hats on Pence (2020) if Trump is gone

McConnell, Ryan, et al, will realize that while Pence was a decent VP pick to attract evangelicals, his overall "base" is too narrow to win nationally. That is assuming we have a fair election......big assumption at this point.

[CottonBear]

26. Pence was in Savannah, GA on Mar 17

I wonder if he met with former congressman and current GOP spokesperson, Jack Kingston, who is from the Savannah area.

Why would Pence go to Savannah during the St. Patrick’s Day festivities? It wasn’t to drink and party. So, why did he go and who did he meet with?

[dameatball]

33. Oh, Pence will run, I just am not sure he will be unopposed or nominated. But just speculating.

[not fooled]

62. If the media does its job

and fully covers punce's nutjobbery, he will be dead in the water.

My hopes are not high. Because he is a kook brothers bot the corporate media will soft-pedal the religious extremism and prop him up in order to make him look presidential.

The real payoff for the billionaire owners of the corporate media is that with punce they get a total corporate tool. The tax cuts and deregulation can continue! And, screwing the rest of us.

The American people should see through the nonsense and turn their backs on mikey.

[dameatball]

65. I never knew much about him, but from what I have read his popularity in Hoosierland had waned.

[Danascot]

75. Compared to Trump anyone looks presidential.

>>Because he is a kook brothers bot the corporate media will soft-pedal the religious extremism and prop him up in order to make him look presidential. <<

[Blue_true]

14. One thing that I see about Trump voters is that many think they are rational.

They believe guns protect them even when they live in places where the most serious crime is throwing down a Cigarrette butt. They are not necessarily racist, but they downplay openly racist politicking as being just in your face talk that is not likely to become policy, they vote for anti-choice candidates even though they support their teen daughter getting an abortion instead of giving up a chance at a more financially secure life.

[Progressive dog]

22. Too early to claim victory

especially since most Republicans seem to want to continue getting Russian help. The Republican talk is cheap and the "leaks" about private talks are cheaper.

[poboy2]

25. Yes, this is like turning you back on the killer

just after you think you killed him. Watch out!

[FakeNoose]

51. We must protect Robert Mueller

Mueller is the key. Oddly, some Republicans are starting to see that.

[NCTraveler]

24. K&R nt

[Locrian]

29. i hope you're right...

he just gave the rich TRILLIONS in tax cuts.

If they want him still installed in power, it will be a battle.

[Mr.Bill]

35. The thing is, those trillions

are why they wanted him in power. They could easily think mission accomplished.

[Locrian]

36. yes absoultely - some of the goldman rats have already deserted the ship! / nt

[Enoki33]

31. The greatest danger we face now is the legitimacy of our elections.

It is obvious that the GOP leadership is aware that the Russians have achieved a level of sophisticated interference that favors their traitorous hold on power. They go to a ball game at a stadium and solemnly stand with their hand over their hearts for the national anthem, then go to work ignoring their constitutional responsibilities. Until we secure the legitimacy of our votes the blue wave this November will have to be a tsunami. Then we can rid ourselves of the spies that now govern. Should Mueller be fired, how we as a nation respond will define us.

[erronis]

40. Excellent post. "how we as a nation respond will define us."

Also:

They go to a ball game at a stadium and solemnly stand with their hand over their hearts for the national anthem, then go to work ignoring their constitutional responsibilities.

Well, I guess I've just excerpted most of your reply...

[DallasNE]

32. Once Damaged You Can't Put Humpty-Dumpty Back Together Again

But a new normal can/will be forged. New leadership will emerge - they may not be on the radar yet. Vet then embrace the new leadership. Now is the time to set in place those building blocks. It starts with the elimination of Citizens United and dark money so Mercer can't pour $15 million into CA and turn that into $100 million in benefits, all under the radar.

[2left4u]

34. I'm not buying into anything

yet, because last time when everyone said Hillary was winning, no chance of Trump coming back blah blah blah it clearly didn't workout like I was told.

We keep focused, keep registering voters, and reaching out to past Dem candidate voters.

I'm done buying into anything until the day after the election

[Initech]

47. That's because last time, there was a mass concentrated effort to steal the election.

This time around the pin is being pulled from the crooks who stole it. And it won't be pretty when that happens.

[2left4u]

52. Let's hope so

[Initech]

53. I have a feeling that they were all in on it.

And I think the probe into Cambridge Analytica is going to make that fact public.

[FailureToCommunicate]

41. Your hopeful stance is refreshing. Unfortunately the 'damage to our country' is

well underway. The reason Republicans still are only whispering against Trump, in the shadows, is because he still is their useful idiot, signing anything they set before his pen. He -they- have already ruined so much of our government agencies, tax laws, immigration rights, and our standing in the world, that it will take ages to mend, even if he were to disappear tomorrow.

[LudwigPastorius]

42. Just because it was so well said the first time:

...you will take your rightful place as a disgraced demagogue in the dustbin of history.

[SpankMe]

43. Yours is a hopeful message

But, I'm pessimistic. Republicans are, as we speak, solidifying their own deep state starting with the judiciary and extending through permanent damage being done by the executive departments. They're continuing with their relentless Gerrymandering and kid gloves with the Russian hacking enterprise. It's a disaster.

I'd have more hope if liberals actually voted. Things may be bad enough now to get out enough non-conservative votes to change things up in '18 and '20. But, when Dems fix things and everything calms down and returns to normal, liberals will get comfortable and will stay home for subsequent elections and all this will start over again.

The root of all this is too large of a "just-don't-give-a-shit" middle who won't go out and reliably vote for all elections. Fuck anyone who doesn't vote.

[TygrBright]

44. I want some of what you're smoking/drinking/eating... n/t

[diva77]

45. We need dekochification too!!

[BoneyardDem]

46. There is no doubt in my mind......

....that many elected Republicans would like to see Trump fail in a passive move to save the country. They won't be a party to another Nixonian moment, but they also want to put an end to it all. I can see the little cogs and wheels turning, "better to lose a couple of election cycles than to try and live down Nixon reruns with Trump as the newest header"

[raven mad]

49. I think both he and his sycophants are mentally certifiable.

But of course, I thought that before the election and still cannot understand why anyone (the minority, granted) voted for him.

[Cosmocat]

50. I disagree

Trump is not the cause, he's a symptom of the overall problem.

[raven mad]

56. I think both he and his sycophants are mentally certifiable.

But of course, I thought that before the election and still cannot understand why anyone (the minority, granted) voted for him.



I'm not just pissed off. I'm scared.

[misanthrope]

57. Yeah, right

I'll believe that when I see it. Trump is simply another manifestation of the American id.

[lame54]

61. I'm with you

[enid602]

59. Centers

Maybe we can turn Chic-Fill-A locations into detrumpification centers😂.

[enid602]

63. Wonders

And assign Michelle Bachman to lead the de trumpification effort. She's done wonders with her husband.

[Awsi Dooger]

64. This is the epitome of Happy Adjuster

Reality as you want it to be.

Here's how it actually breaks down: many Trump supporters repeat all of his lies and double down with more of their own. Other Trump supporters are content to remain quiet when news cycles are going poorly for him, but nothing has changed and they can't wait to vote for him again.

As Bob Corker properly described, the obsession is with Trump. Issues mean nothing. The Republican Party can't risk the wrath of Trump supporters, and the party big shots fully understand that. They won't do anything to him unless there is indisputable evidence and it would probably have to be video/audio supported, and not merely testimony.

Trump isn't going anywhere. Once the Mueller investigation finishes, Trump will declare witch hunt and supreme victory.

No matter what happens.

No matter what happens. That's what is being ignored here and on networks like CNN and MSNBC. Trump will loudly shout and tweet victory over Mueller and the system. His followers will rejoice. Then Trump will take the lies and atrocities to new level, even by his standards. It will make Roy Cohn look like a cotillion.

The only exception is if Trump is forced from office. The odds of that happening are so microscopically low that I stick with everything I posted above. I understand applied probability. Happy Adjusters are blatantly wrong and then use the same thought process to be wrong again.

[pansypoo53219]

66. they were punked by lies.

[TheFrenchRazor]

68. you're imagining that we live in some kind of rational, corruption-free world; nothing could be furt

further from the truth. evil triumphs all the time, unfortunately.

[Texin]

69. "Trump will have to talk to mueller". Not if he fires him from that job.

I want to believe this, shockey80, but shitler could fire Mueller at any moment and my thought is the odds would be way less than 40% that the rethugs would do anything about except shrug their shoulders and shuffle off.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

70. My most fervent wish is for the detrumpification of America.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

71. Sure do hope so.

Trump and his awful people have done damage to our country that will take a very long time to repair, so the sooner we get to it the better.

[TwistOneUp]

72. Sure hope you're right! nt

[sandensea]

73. Your words to God's ear - though we'll still need to be as vigilant as ever.

The fascist sentiment is still strong among many of our fellow Americans.

With Trump out of the way, when that happens, they'll quickly get busy on looking for their next Mussolini (or, God forbid, worse).

[Firestorm49]

80. Small Base

Trump’s support base of roughly 34% included many independent voters who simply wanted a non-politician running things. Those, the undecided, have realized the failure of that decision, as we will see in the upcoming elections, provided we are not compromised by a Republican party complicit in retaining their grasp of power at any cost. Trumps base is smaller and weaker than you think. Fox News, and I use the term loosely, is just good at spreading inflammatory propaganda, rarely based on any factual data, and feeding the hatred that is prevalent today. Blowhards like Lindbaugh, a dying breed, and Hannity, should be more regarded as terrorists than broadcasters, but our constitution has given them that right.

Our constitution affords us the right to free speech, and in the past, before the degradation of our civil discourse, our nation, as a well informed society, could handle dissent spread through media, speeches, internet, etc., but no longer. We live in an ever changing world. Blame can be assessed on how and what brought this animosity about, but as a nation, we must endure this nonsense as best we can and only hope that our constitution is stronger than the corruption that currently guides it, both Republican and Democratic.

Trump will wither away, money will continue to scream, and the next chapter in our history will begin. One can only hope that it will be for the better. Buckle up.