Why I just CAN. NOT. eat meat. (WARNING: GRAPHIC - TRIGGER - don't watch if sensitive)

[CousinIT]

THIS is what humans to do the most sensitive and intelligent animals on our planet. I just can't.

I HATE THIS.

Link to tweet

[MineralMan]

1. Why post this here?

Really!

[CousinIT]

3. People need to be aware. n/t

[MoonRiver]

29. Why not? This is REALITY.

[USALiberal]

35. Hide it then! Wow! Nt

[pandr32]

2. We all need to become aware

[brooklynite]

4. I assume you also can't eat vegetables?

Have you considered the life of migrant farm workers, particularly those picking produce outside the US?

[LanternWaste]

5. I love your false equivalency pretending to be a valid point.

I love your false equivalency pretending to be a valid point.

[brooklynite]

7. But then, I don't post "I don't (blank) and neither should you" messages.

[a kennedy]

6. Punishment for that person.....the same technique done on him.

it just makes me

[LSFL]

8. i have worked in a slaughterhouse

This does not accurately reflect the process that I remember. The animals were never alive that far into processing.
But anyway....meat or veggies coated in feces. I can hardly decide.

[bitterross]

9. I never understand the outrage over treatment of food.

It confounds me to understand why people get so upset over the treatment of something who's whole existence is to end in being killed for food. There is an irony there I don't think people get.

Unless you are a completely organic, vegan you really don't have a lot of room to complain.

[Codeine]

11. Because its a living being? It feels pain

and fear and confusion and bewildering terror?

That “food” is as intelligent as a human child. I can’t understand how anyone - especially a progress liberal - could be so callous as to pretend that causing pain is a value-free decision. My wife eats meat but even she isn’t so ridiculous as to act surprised that someone would be concerned with animal welfare.

[Major Nikon]

17. Not even then

Regardless of what you eat you have a profound impact on other living things. Soy farming in South America wipes out massive levels of the ecosystem and drastically affects native species which arguably should have more “rights” to exist compared to non-native domesticated animals. So-called vegan high demand for plant based protein is largely to blame. Pretty much all types of modern agriculture displaced native habitats and native creatures most certainly aren’t allowed to eat people food crops at will. The “organic” method of rodent control is feeding them bait laced with concrete that sets up in their digestive system. I suppose there’s not to much demand for self righteous to watch videos of those animals dying horrible deaths.

[Codeine]

20. Only 6% of soy is turned into food.

The vast majority of soy is fed to animals.

[Major Nikon]

22. Its closer to 25%

The 6% figure you are quoting is only for the amount that is directly turned into food products like soy based drinks and tofu. Considerably more is turned into other human edibles made from soy meal and soy oil and other soy by-products. Not to mention this is very much a growth industry.

[Codeine]

23. Assuming you are correct

and my numbers are out of date (it happens) if seven-tenths of the soy grown is used to feed livestock then it’s a bit disingenuous to blame the bulk of the problem on vegan food products, no?

[Major Nikon]

25. Thats not how it works

Most soy that is used for animal feed is the by-product of soy that’s processed for oil. So while the fiber left over from oil production is the bulk in quantity, it’s not even close to being the most profitable. Even if zero soy was used for animal feed, there would still be vast quantities grown for human consumption and energy uses. There’s no getting around the fact that new human consumption of soy is driving new demand for more global farmland.

[unblock]

26. i'm not personally bother by meat eating, but your logic is quite lacking.

one could argue that humans are worm food. would that justify inhumane treatment of humans?

the idea that an animal exists only to be eaten is an entirely self-serving construct and completely ignores the entire life or perspective of that animal.

beyond that, it's completely unnecessary. it's entirely possible to treat animals humanely throughout their lifetime even if they are being raised for slaughter. the fact that they're slated to end up on a dinner plate in no way justifies a lifetime of abuse and maltreatment.

[Major Nikon]

32. Theres something to be said for that

The behavior exhibited in the video is illegal in all 50 states, so it’s not really a question of whether it was wrong or not for most. Some people do go way overboard and equate animals to humans which can’t be logically supported ethically, psychologically, or physically.

[Demovictory9]

33. omg are you serious!

[bitterross]

38. Yes, I'm Serious. They are bred to be killed and you don't find that cruel.

The animal is bred, born, and raised to be killed eaten. Period. That is the whole point of it being born in the first place. So I have a hard time getting upset over the treatment of the walking dead.

Frankly, I think the absurdity is with the people who get all up in arms over the treatment.

Yes, it is sad and disgusting that there are sadists out there who feel it necessary to take out their psychosis on animals. Those people exist in every walk of life though. To lesser or greater degrees.

When we have no homeless people, no people without healthcare, no hunger, equality of pay and fair treatment of all races then, maybe I'll have time to get upset about the treatment of animals that are solely bred to be killed and eaten.

[BoneyardDem]

10. I heard a perfectly ripe tomato scream while being cut open.

and I think I heard the cucumber too...but I'm not sure on that one.

[Codeine]

12. One of the most effective and easily-undertaken

changes we can make for the environment is to stop eating meat. For a group of people who consider themselves environmentally aware (I assume most DUers feel that way) the hostility shown here toward a meat-free diet is confusing.

[MicaelS]

13. Not confusing at all.

Too many animal rights activists are like religious fundamentalists.

To wit:

Proclaiming how holy they and their beliefs are.

Pushing their beliefs on others, even when told others are not interested.

Proclaiming that others are going to hell or will suffer terrible karma or retribution because they eat or use animal based products.

Just like I don't want to be prosletized to by religious zealots, I do not want to be prosletized to to by animal rights zealots.

[Mariana]

14. The OP didn't do any of that. nt.

[Codeine]

18. None of that was done here.

A simple video of an animal being brutalized was posted.

[Major Nikon]

19. Post #12 wasnt referring to just this thread

There’s plenty of hostility to go around and DU most certainly isn’t immune. Just look at some of the replies to the original Twitter post.

[Adrahil]

16. I don't have a problem with people who choose a meat-free diet.

I DO have a problem with self-righteous prigs who want to lecture me about it.

[Bettie]

24. Yep, me too

I don't want to be preached to.

Not about religion, not about veganism, or how sugar is a "toxin" or about the latest "detox diet".

[crazycatlady]

30. this

And I don't eat meat.

[OnDoutside]

15. On the positive side, they contribute to these beauties ... mmmm

[milestogo]

21. Agree completely. And besides the cruelty, eating meat is bad for the planet and for your health.

And no, I don't miss bacon. The thought of it makes me sick.

[Adrahil]

27. More bacon for me!!! NT

[milestogo]

37. Because you don't care about the cruelty, the planet, or your health.

[handmade34]

28. unfortunately...

even many here on DU cannot graciously discuss the detrimental effect of excessive meat consumption... the food we eat is extremely personal and very emotional for most people... I have tried the discussion here on DU numerous times and many people are irrational and unreasonable... I would think that a group of people that supposedly favor more liberal ideas and more humane ways of thinking about life should be open to, and able to discuss the repercussions of our preferred diets???

I agree, knowing how many animals are treated either as they are growing or when they are slaughtered is important to be aware of... I finally quit eating meat years ago (after on again, off again for 20 years) when driving Route 50 coming into Dodge City, Kansas and for miles driving past feed lots with cows being readied to go to slaughter... the cows were filthy, the smell was awful and most were standing on piles and piles of manure...

I farmed most of my life and raised almost every kind of animals and butchered all the meat for family and community... my partner and 1/2 of my kids eat some meat...

I have never lectured, never preached, never criticized... I always try to provide information and hope that people will do what is best for the environment and the people around them... obviously individuals should be free to make choices about food but as a nation/community we all have responsibility for each other and the environment...

-animal agriculture is brutal for the environment
-most people do not need the excessive protein from meat and dairy (I acknlwledge that there are some, for health reasons, that do need the protein that meat provides)
-there is stress in slaughter houses... not all are as graphic as what you show, but it does happen at times
-studies have proven the connection between processed meats and illness
-optimum health can be obtained from a vegetarian/vegan diet http://www.businessinsider.com/elite-athletes-who-are-vegan-and-what-made-them-switch-their-diet-2017-10#venus-williams-tennis-player-1


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2367646/

[crazycatlady]

31. food's a sensitive subject

For many people food is tied to culture and memories. Like the turkey at Grandma's last Thanksgiving. Or if your family meals always consist of XYZ and not eating XYZ makes your extended family look at you like you have 5 heads. Nobody wants to break a beloved family tradition.

Diets are also one of those things that if you ask 10 people for advice, you're getting 10 different answers. For example, low-carb diets are very trendy now. But I know for me (personally) if I don't eat carbs, I end up feeling lightheaded and dizzy ('seeing stars') to the verge of passing out.

There's also the subject of taste. One man's yum is another man's yuck. This doesn't even touch with foods agreeing or not with you and food allergies. Go ahead and tell someone to drink almond milk, but if they have a nut allergy, it is potentially deadly.

[aikoaiko]

34. I Just CAN StILL eat meat.

Granted there is no call for cruelty.

[Demovictory9]

36. keep speaking up for beings who cant speak for themselves