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Eko

(7,272 posts)
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 02:26 PM Mar 2018

Mark Anthony Conditt's blog. (austin bomber)

Pretty much exactly what you would expect from a conservative.
"There are a couple things wrong with your argument that I would like to correct. First, falling in love is a choice. When you "fall in love" you become infatuated with your significant other, and you will eventually fall out of love.

Second, yes, the government shouldn't tell them whom they can and cannot marry, but we shouldn't even have this problem! Homosexuality is not natural. Just look at the male and female bodies. They are obviously designed to couple. The natural design is apparent. It is not natural to couple male with male and female with female. It would be like trying to fit two screws together and to nuts together and then say, "See, it’s natural for them to go together."

In addition, political protection of a sexual practice is ludicrous. I do not believe it is proper to pass laws stating that homosexuals have 'rights.' What about pedophilia or bestiality? These are sexual practices. Should they also be protected by law? If homosexuality is protected by law, why not those as well? "
http://definingmystance.blogspot.com/?m=1

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Hassin Bin Sober

(26,319 posts)
1. Typical
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 02:30 PM
Mar 2018

Hates gay marriage and abortion. Wants to outlaw them.

But wants to do away with sex offender registrations.

Hmm.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
2. So often these young men hate love
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 02:31 PM
Mar 2018

It's probably an indication that they are quite emotionally immature, and yet are trying to sound cynical.

He also seems to think that it's okay to prohibit sexual practice by law-- just not to "allow' it by law.

Oh, well, no wonder he became a bomber. Like all these types, frankly, he's not very bright at all, but thinks he's smarter than anyone else and can't understand why no one obeys him.

lapfog_1

(29,198 posts)
3. not surprised
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 02:34 PM
Mar 2018

there will be more about race and religion and other topics

the question will be how did he pick the targets? People he knew personally or picked at random or just because they fit one of his "bad people" categories... did he switch to a different triggering and delivery mechanism just to throw off the police?

MissB

(15,805 posts)
4. He was - what- 17? when he wrote that. And homeschooled.
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 02:38 PM
Mar 2018

He may well have been a hateful person- his apparent actions bear out that. But- I read those words through the eyes of a homeschooled 17 year old and I get that he didn’t have much of a chance.

No excuse for his actions. Plenty of folks grow up in those situations and end up fine citizens.

Glad he took the final action he did.

MissB

(15,805 posts)
6. I can assume that.
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 02:44 PM
Mar 2018

I don’t know. He clearly wasn’t all puppies and rainbows. His photo from that timeframe showed a perfectly normal kid, not at all different looking than my oldest child. I can’t possibly understand what causes someone to blow people up. Wish he would’ve started with him.

No manifesto yet?

MissB

(15,805 posts)
8. Nah. I hate several people, but I dont blow them up.
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 02:48 PM
Mar 2018

Clearly it’s more than that. If hate makes people blow others up then the entire world would be a wasteland.

As usual, if only he’d started with himself.

MissB

(15,805 posts)
16. People have different opinions.
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 03:42 PM
Mar 2018

You’ve chosen hate as the answer. I’m not saying thats wrong, I’m just doubtful that hate is the only thing that turned him.

Folks come up with answers like mental illness or evil or disagreement with government. It’s pretty unknowable what drove him unless we have a manifesto that reveals his thoughts.

MissB

(15,805 posts)
19. I believe strongly that folks have different opinions about a variety of topics.
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 04:21 PM
Mar 2018

You’ll have to be more specific about your question - what do you think I’m doubting and what is “this” you refer to. If you’re asking why I doubt it was hate that was the only driver, I can reiterate the above posts that you’ve probably read already.

I get that you’re disgusted that he killed people. News flash: so am I. I don’t have answers as to why he did- I’m merely pointing out that a simple black/white answer isn’t going to cover his probable many issues. None of his issues is an excuse for what he did. I just disagree that it’s so simple as to say “hate” is why he did it.

Eko

(7,272 posts)
20. There are two problems with what you are saying.
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 05:50 PM
Mar 2018

First, no one here has stated that it was hate that was the only driver, just the main one. Second, from all the evidence we have now, and I know it is small, there are no reports that he had a mental illness, none from his family, school or co-workers. There is no evidence that he disagreed with the government enough to do this and if so why not bomb the government? Here is a quote from him on his blog, " The reasons I am taking this class is because I want to understand the US government, and I hope that it will help me clarify my stance, and then defend it.". As for evil, evil is another word for hate. Whom did he attack? Diverse people. Who did he attack in his blog? Diverse people. Its entirely possible all of this is wrong, but we can only go on what information we have now to come to a conclusion, if you said it is too early to come to a conclusion I would agree with you, but you didn't do that, you said "Clearly it’s more than that.". Clearly its not. There is no information available that supports that conclusion at all. If you do have information to support that then feel free to share it. I have no problem being wrong, but telling me that because you believe it when all available evidence points away from that is clearly not right. I appreciate the conversation, and if I am coming across as a jerk then I apologize.
Thanks,
Eko.

MissB

(15,805 posts)
21. You are arguing something completely different
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 06:29 PM
Mar 2018

And I’m not sure why. I’m arguing it isn’t black and white and you are arguing the various possibilities and trying to discard them. That’s fine- again, we have a different opinion. I didn’t read but a few sentences of your post above this one because it’s clear that you are trying to argue something vastly different than what I’m trying to convey. Since it’s clear we don’t agree, how about we just amicably agree to disagree what his motives are. You think they are clear and I do not.

Not my hill to die on.

Ilsa

(61,691 posts)
11. I wish that would be preserved for law enforcement,
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 03:08 PM
Mar 2018

in case they want it for some reason, and then removed from access on the internet. That family is grieving, and they don't need to be tempted to look at what's online about their son.

Eko

(7,272 posts)
12. I can see where you are coming from,
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 03:18 PM
Mar 2018

But I think the people of Austin who were afraid to open packages that he terrorized and most especially the ones who were bombed and their families should be able to look it up on the net at any time they want. Not to mention the millions of Americans who wondered if their package was a bomb. He was a terrorist.

misanthrope

(7,411 posts)
13. The first paragraph excerpted isn't entirely wrong
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 03:26 PM
Mar 2018

There is an amount of willingness that certainly is a component of infatuation, sometimes recognized, other times subconscious. To deny that is willful ignorance. It's also beside the point.

However, that shouldn't be an excuse to hate someone else for their motivations and actions when it comes to their personal life and romantic existence. Not when it involves consenting adults and that stops when you attempt to conflate homosexuality/bisexuality with pedophilia or bestiality.

Eko

(7,272 posts)
15. I cant believe some of the posts I am getting here.
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 03:36 PM
Mar 2018

The dude killed people, quit making excuses. He was a terrorist. WTF? I am disgusted.

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