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First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 05:23 PM Mar 2018

If this were all a novel...who would be the author...?

...I think a collaboration between Dante, Shakespeare, Kafka, Philip K Dick, Hunter Thompson, and Harlan Ellison might--just *might*--be sufficient for the nightmare we're facing. Indeed, I often wonder if we *are* living in a peculiarly hellish fictional construct. That's almost a reassuring thought--because then, it wouldn't be true...

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If this were all a novel...who would be the author...? (Original Post) First Speaker Mar 2018 OP
Dostoevsky, maybe. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #1
I agree...Dostoevsky...I read one of his novels 50 years ago.. Stuart G Mar 2018 #34
Stephen King maveric Mar 2018 #2
Ditto OldHippieChick Mar 2018 #23
Ditto to your ditto StarryNite Mar 2018 #26
Yep, Stephen King. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2018 #64
Joseph Conrad malaise Mar 2018 #3
Dr. Seuss jberryhill Mar 2018 #4
You beat me to this one! imanamerican63 Mar 2018 #9
Kafka MFM008 Mar 2018 #5
Yep, that's my vote. Altho Dr. Seuss is a very close 2nd. RandomAccess Mar 2018 #76
some reject. too clunky, too obvious, too inartful, too implausible. unblock Mar 2018 #6
Yes, totally implausible PatSeg Mar 2018 #10
Kafka. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2018 #7
Ludlum, Grisham, and someone else unc70 Mar 2018 #8
Elmore Leonard? n/t rzemanfl Mar 2018 #11
Elmore Leonard certainly wrote tight stories back in his day Brother Buzz Mar 2018 #25
I have read every one of his books and actually met him at a book thing. rzemanfl Mar 2018 #27
A couple of us know him. Hell, we even have a DUer that goes by the name SergeStorms Brother Buzz Mar 2018 #38
Have you read Laurence Shames? Randy Wayne White? James W. Hall? rzemanfl Mar 2018 #40
Yes, yes, no Brother Buzz Mar 2018 #46
I recently read the entire Travis McGee series in order. rzemanfl Mar 2018 #48
Ed McBain, Matthew Hope series. Had to resort to computer to fix the senior moment. n/t rzemanfl Mar 2018 #51
I've read Ed McBain but never really connected with his writing Brother Buzz Mar 2018 #59
The Hope series is set in Florida and is a fairly short series. There is another short one. rzemanfl Mar 2018 #77
Short is good Brother Buzz Mar 2018 #81
It is a chilly 61 degrees here this morning. I may have gotten an author rzemanfl Mar 2018 #83
Kurt Vonnegut, who employed insight and humor to fathom political and social ironies. n/t John1956PA Mar 2018 #12
+1 dembotoz Mar 2018 #13
my first thought... you beat me to the post lapfog_1 Mar 2018 #14
My first thought also marylandblue Mar 2018 #30
My first thought as well. nt el_bryanto Mar 2018 #62
Vonnegut or Voltaire moondust Mar 2018 #67
"I have No Mouth, And I Must Scream", Harlan Ellison Victory at Yorktown Mar 2018 #15
Orwell. MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #16
Absolutely. lindysalsagal Mar 2018 #35
Thinking of "Elmer Gantry", I would pick Sinclair Lewis. kwassa Mar 2018 #17
Hunter S Thompson, or Carl Hiaasen JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2018 #18
George R R Martin JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2018 #19
Stephen King shraby Mar 2018 #20
John Kennedy Toole (author of "Confederacy of Dunces") malchickiwick Mar 2018 #21
Oooooh, good for you, mal!! Although, well...Dunces was so awfully sweet-natured... Leghorn21 Mar 2018 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author GusBob Mar 2018 #56
I agree. A very sweet little novel. Such a sad story of its authorship, as well... malchickiwick Mar 2018 #70
Damn, you clever devil GusBob Mar 2018 #57
I'm a Lions fan; I see you like the Pack. Crazy to think I actually scored a win here, LOL... malchickiwick Mar 2018 #71
One would wonder how Ignatious and his sidekick Myrna GusBob Mar 2018 #74
Carl Hiaasen pnwmom Mar 2018 #22
More like Carl Hiaasen's evil twin.....:) Where is Skink when we need him? dameatball Mar 2018 #43
Yeah, get Skink to investigate Mar a Lago! pnwmom Mar 2018 #50
Kafka! (Seems to be winning so far). nt LAS14 Mar 2018 #24
Philip K. Dick meets Lewis Carroll nt Binkie The Clown Mar 2018 #28
Roald Dahl mainstreetonce Mar 2018 #29
Tom Robbins madamesilverspurs Mar 2018 #31
Douglas Adams /NT sdfernando Mar 2018 #32
Aldous Huxley. smirkymonkey Mar 2018 #33
Dr. Kevorkian. babydollhead Mar 2018 #36
Paddy Chayefsky, for a *Network/Altered States* mash-up. VOX Mar 2018 #37
Xaviera enid602 Mar 2018 #39
Ray Bradbury Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2018 #41
+1 oasis Mar 2018 #44
John Kennedy Toole mythology Mar 2018 #42
Clive Barker. BlueTsunami2018 Mar 2018 #45
Joseph Heller lpbk2713 Mar 2018 #47
John Le Carre Louis1895 Mar 2018 #49
Joint effort: Hunter Thompson, Robert Anton Wilson, and William Gibson (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Mar 2018 #52
Bram Stoker Leith Mar 2018 #53
Faulkner...or Dostoyevsky Docreed2003 Mar 2018 #54
For sheer nasty down-and-dirty mobster gangster punkass action, Leghorn21 Mar 2018 #58
Chuck Palahniuk syringis Mar 2018 #60
I've been re-reading Kurt Vonnegut' "Cat's Cradle" recently. longship Mar 2018 #61
Jackie Collins partnered with Stephen king...it is a trashy horror show....really. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #63
I keep thinking that John LeCarre probably thought this all up years ago.... dawg day Mar 2018 #65
Charles Dickens would have had a ball with this. n/t TryingNot2Freak Mar 2018 #66
The Farrely Brothers lame54 Mar 2018 #68
Gore Vidal McCamy Taylor Mar 2018 #69
Sinclair Lewis. He'd see it as a modern take on "It Can't Happen Here": highplainsdem Mar 2018 #72
Btw, sales of that Sinclair Lewis novel surged after the 2016 election, as that Wikipedia highplainsdem Mar 2018 #73
Nobody picks the obvious? Ayn Rand... Wounded Bear Mar 2018 #75
Thomas Pynchon. LisaM Mar 2018 #78
William S. Burroughs. Laffy Kat Mar 2018 #79
Franz Kafka... lapucelle Mar 2018 #80
Yep... Franz Kafka Upthevibe Mar 2018 #82

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
34. I agree...Dostoevsky...I read one of his novels 50 years ago..
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 06:29 PM
Mar 2018

It was great, twisted, remarkable, convoluted, fascinating..whatever...??.............................It was ..........

"The Brothers Karamazov "

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,839 posts)
64. Yep, Stephen King.
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 08:30 PM
Mar 2018

Possibly in collaboration with Peter Straub. Their joint novel The Talisman is the ONLY book that ever gave me nightmares.

unblock

(52,164 posts)
6. some reject. too clunky, too obvious, too inartful, too implausible.
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 05:28 PM
Mar 2018

any name author is way too good to come up with such drivel.


nope, this story reads like something someone wrote for high school project and got a c- at best.

PatSeg

(47,352 posts)
10. Yes, totally implausible
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 05:37 PM
Mar 2018

and we only know a fraction of what all happened. If it was a movie, I'd walk out. Who would believe such an outrageous figure like Trump could end up in the White House? Steve Bannon, Carter Page, Kellyanne Conway, Sarah Huckabee Sanders? Maybe as a comedy, but not terribly funny either.

The reason no one has ever written such a story, is because no one would read it or believe it.

unc70

(6,110 posts)
8. Ludlum, Grisham, and someone else
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 05:30 PM
Mar 2018

Many of the others seem to have too much religion or philosophy. Others are too subtle.

Brother Buzz

(36,407 posts)
25. Elmore Leonard certainly wrote tight stories back in his day
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 06:13 PM
Mar 2018

But this one is so loopy and bizarre, I suspect it might be right up another Floridian's alley: Tim Dorsey

Tim Dorsey is an American novelist. He is known for a series starring Serge A. Storms, a mentally disturbed vigilante antihero who rampages across Florida enforcing his own moral code against a variety of low-life criminals.

rzemanfl

(29,556 posts)
27. I have read every one of his books and actually met him at a book thing.
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 06:18 PM
Mar 2018

Just read his latest, The Pope of Palm Beach. I thought about him, bit thought not enough folks here would know his work.

Brother Buzz

(36,407 posts)
38. A couple of us know him. Hell, we even have a DUer that goes by the name SergeStorms
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 06:45 PM
Mar 2018

I read novels set it tropic settings during the Winter, especially when it's a dank 40 degrees in California, and Tim Dorsey is always a welcome addition to my reading stack.

I just placed a hold on The Pope of Palm Beach up at my Podunk Carnegie library. Thanks for the heads up.

rzemanfl

(29,556 posts)
40. Have you read Laurence Shames? Randy Wayne White? James W. Hall?
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 06:50 PM
Mar 2018

Shames is a stich, old stuff but funny as hell.

Brother Buzz

(36,407 posts)
46. Yes, yes, no
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 07:22 PM
Mar 2018

My benchmark for everything Florida, was John D. MacDonald's Travis McGee. Back in the day, I remember anxiously waiting for his next installment.

Have you read Bob Morris? I was just starting to like Bob Morris' Zack Chasteen then he just stopped. Bummer.

rzemanfl

(29,556 posts)
48. I recently read the entire Travis McGee series in order.
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 07:27 PM
Mar 2018

I have not read Morris. I think you'd like Hall. There's another series I am trying to remember, set in Florida, the character is an attorney. I hate senior moments.

Brother Buzz

(36,407 posts)
59. I've read Ed McBain but never really connected with his writing
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 07:50 PM
Mar 2018

Interesting, the person who hipped me to McGee forty years ago also recommended McBain. Perhaps I should give it another try.

rzemanfl

(29,556 posts)
77. The Hope series is set in Florida and is a fairly short series. There is another short one.
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 10:08 PM
Mar 2018

Senior moment again.

rzemanfl

(29,556 posts)
83. It is a chilly 61 degrees here this morning. I may have gotten an author
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 11:02 AM
Mar 2018

mixed up in my senior moment. I don't find the series I am thinking of in the list of McBain's writings. Like most senior moments it will come to me when least expected.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,336 posts)
19. George R R Martin
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 06:04 PM
Mar 2018

Donald Trump would be Lord Walder Frey.

Oh, wait, did it end well for Walder Frey? Maybe not so well.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
55. Oooooh, good for you, mal!! Although, well...Dunces was so awfully sweet-natured...
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 07:42 PM
Mar 2018

I should read that again, LOVE IT - read it decades ago, and still quote the line, for no particular reason, (the guy goes into a bar and has been hired as the cleaning man) - -

Where they keep them mutherfuckin broom?!”


Response to Leghorn21 (Reply #55)

malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
70. I agree. A very sweet little novel. Such a sad story of its authorship, as well...
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 09:24 PM
Mar 2018

...published posthumously after JKL passed far too young. Won the pulitzer. Great line, BTW, and you've convinced me I need to read it again too. It's been a decade-plus.

malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
71. I'm a Lions fan; I see you like the Pack. Crazy to think I actually scored a win here, LOL...
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 09:32 PM
Mar 2018

Great minds, right GusBob?

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
33. Aldous Huxley.
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 06:28 PM
Mar 2018

Although Kafka, Orwell and Vonnegut are good choices as well. I would throw in another one: Margaret Atwood, author of "The Handmaid's Tale.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
37. Paddy Chayefsky, for a *Network/Altered States* mash-up.
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 06:35 PM
Mar 2018

Chayefsky’s work had the rage necessary for tackling the high-stakes weirdness.

Hunter S. Thompson would be equally up to the task.

lpbk2713

(42,750 posts)
47. Joseph Heller
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 07:26 PM
Mar 2018



People at the higher levels are corrupt, inept or insane. Or any combination of the three.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
58. For sheer nasty down-and-dirty mobster gangster punkass action,
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 07:48 PM
Mar 2018

my man James Ellroy - hush hush and on the Q-t, baby

longship

(40,416 posts)
61. I've been re-reading Kurt Vonnegut' "Cat's Cradle" recently.
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 07:57 PM
Mar 2018

Only Bokononism is going to get us through this.

The fourteenth book of Bokonon is the best explanation of what is now happening.

"Sometimes the pool-pah," Bokonon tells us, "exceeds the power of humans to communicate." Bokonon translates pool-pah at one point as "wrath of God."

...

"What hope can there be for mankind," I thought, "when there are such men as Felix Hoenikker to give such playthings as ice-nine to such short-sighted children as almost all men and women are?"

And I remembered The Fourteenth Book of Bokonon, which I had read in its entirety the night before. The Fourteenth Book of Bokonon is entitled, "What Can a Thoughtful Man Hope for Mankind on Earth, Given the Experience of the Past Million Years?"

It doesn't take long to read The Fourteenth Book. It consists of one word and a period.

This is it.
"Nothing."


And so it goes.


dawg day

(7,947 posts)
65. I keep thinking that John LeCarre probably thought this all up years ago....
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 08:34 PM
Mar 2018

Then scoffed and said to himself, "I can't write this. No one would believe it even as fiction!"

highplainsdem

(48,957 posts)
73. Btw, sales of that Sinclair Lewis novel surged after the 2016 election, as that Wikipedia
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 09:43 PM
Mar 2018

article notes.

LisaM

(27,800 posts)
78. Thomas Pynchon.
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 10:12 PM
Mar 2018

This has modern absurdity written all over it, and Pynchon is so shadowy himself he could easily be sitting in on all the meetings without anyone realizing it.

lapucelle

(18,229 posts)
80. Franz Kafka...
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 10:50 PM
Mar 2018
Kafkaesque
Comes from the author Franz Kafka, and refers to the style with which he wrote his books.

Basically it describes a nightmarish situation which most people can somehow relate to, although strongly surreal with an ethereal, "evil", omnipotent power floating just beyond the senses.


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