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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhen Black Voters Exited Left: What African Americans lost by aligning with the Democratic Party
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/exit-left/476190/Unfortunately for black voters, most white politicians and voters assume that the civil-rights revolution not only leveled the playing field, but also tilted it in favor of African Americans. The white backlash to civil rights helped resurrect the Republican Party after the disastrous Goldwater campaign in 1964, and, over the last five decades, the Democratic Party has followed the electorate to the right.
This poses the biggest problem for black voters today, which is that Democrats running for state or national office aspire to win black votes without appearing to be beholden to black voters. This is especially true of the three Democratic presidents since Kennedy and Johnson. Black support was crucial to the elections of Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton (each received over 80 percent of black votes), but both distanced themselves from policies that might seem to disproportionately help black people. Urban League Director Vernon Jordan outlined his concerns a year into Carters presidency: We have no full employment policy. We have no welfare reform policy. We have no national health policy. We have no urban revitalization policy. We have no aggressive affirmative action policy. We have no solutions to the grinding problems of poverty and discrimination.
Hard to excerpt because it's all good.
denbot
(9,899 posts)Seeing as youre following his meme..
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)This is a flat out lie:
This poses the biggest problem for black voters today, which is that Democrats running for state or national office aspire to win black votes without appearing to be beholden to black voters.
Without "appearing"? Keyword here. Insert doubt & carry on with the Big Lie.
Who wrote this & what was their agenda?
Because that quote alone is the biggest tell that the intent of this article is to push a lie.
No thanks. We can do better to unite the People against fascism than this.
leftstreet
(36,106 posts)Wwcd
(6,288 posts)easier to swallow.
Of course its a hit piece.
leftstreet
(36,106 posts)when he does so, is he running a hit-piece on Democrats?
Demsrule86
(68,555 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Let's not pretend all motives are equal or equivalent.
brush
(53,771 posts)election year.
Demsrule86
(68,555 posts)We haven't had the power to fix it...and since we were kneecapped in 16...it is worse.
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)It was The Democratic Party that began the fight to pull Blacks out of poverty, & their constant submission to a white Republican law making body.
The Democratic Party took on the well entrenched Southern Strategy.
The Southern strategy was Richard Nixon's strategy to whiteify the electorate so Republicans could hold onto power in light of demographic ...
The Democratic Party has always been there, pushing back against this White Right Supremacist stronghold in our political system.
The failure of policy to lift a demographic out of suppressive lifestyles lies squarely on the backs of the Republican leaders.
The Democratic Party is not the racist Party.
This author should write his next piece on how the Old Republican Party of white supremacy made their way to a permanent political stronghold in the Lawmaking bodies of the southern states, and how they have kept it there.
How their policies have kept Black suppression in place from schools to employment, criminal justice to the voting booth.
Tell us again who it really was fighting against the Republican White Majority.
It has been the always liberal & always progressive Democratic Party that has had to move that racist entrenchment of white superiority that still clings to their racist ideology today.
It is an absolute insult to lay this failure on the Democratic Party.
Start with the Southrn Strategy & then come back and tell us who has failed.
It is not the Democratic Party.
Demsrule86
(68,555 posts)EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)FarCenter
(19,429 posts)Examples of said Democrats would include Oville Faubus, Lester Maddox and George Wallace. They normally aligned with Northern Democrats, except for the Dixiecrat secession from the party in 1948.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixiecrat
Even though proportionately more Republican Senators and Representatives voted for the Civil Right Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965, white southerners felt betrayed by the Democratic Party and migrated towards the Republican Party. This shift was consolidated by the Southern Strategy in 1980.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_Rights_Act_of_1965
brush
(53,771 posts)passed and the Freedom Democratic Party lead by Fannie Lou Hamer fought to be seated at the '64 Democratic Convention.
Again, this old news is well known and has been for years so for this two-year-old article regurgitating politics of division in an election year, and clearly aimed at splitting off African-Americans who make up a significant portion of the Democratic Party base, has a highly suspect agenda.
leftstreet
(36,106 posts)Demsrule86
(68,555 posts)And now we have the GOP wanting to execute Drug dealers...and of course this mean black and brown folks. You really think the party or racism is better for POC. This article is a hit job on Democrats and the party.
George II
(67,782 posts)edhopper
(33,574 posts)they need to vote for Democrats because the GOP will take away their rights.
They have a lot to lose.
appalachiablue
(41,131 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Some blatant falsehoods mixed in with some excellent historical context.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Demsrule86
(68,555 posts)leftstreet
(36,106 posts)Demsrule86
(68,555 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)If a BLACK poster here brings this up, then I will give it the attention it deserves.
If it seems to be happening to DIVIDE us, yet again, I might consider that also.
Surely the author of the article, at least , is black?
Exotica
(1,461 posts)Matt Delmont
Director & Professor, School of Historical, Philosophical & Religious Studies at Arizona State University
Dr. Matthew Delmont is a professor of History and the Director of the School of Historical, Philosophical, and Religious Studies at Arizona State University. He is the author of three books: Why Busing Failed: Race, Media, and the National Resistance to School Desegregation (University of California Press, 2016); Making Roots: A Nation Captivated (University of California Press, 2016); and The Nicest Kids in Town: American Bandstand, Rock n Roll, and the Struggle for Civil Rights in 1950s Philadelphia (University of California Press, 2012). His work has also appeared in The New York Times, The Atlantic, the Washington Post, and several academic journals. Originally from Minneapolis, Minnesota, Delmont earned his B.A from Harvard University and his Ph.D. from Brown University.
poboy2
(2,078 posts)qwlauren35
(6,147 posts)The numero uno option is to run for office. The numero deux option is to campaign for candidates who support your interests, and oppose candidates who do not. That also means fundraising and fighting for registered Democrats to vote in the primaries. Option #3 is to register independent and force candidates to court your vote.
Next, is what you do once someone gets elected. You call, you write, you write letters to the Editor, you go to the local office, you speak at town meetings.
It's exhausting. I've tried it.
The last thing you do, and this article doesn't do it, is you cultivate allies. Now, that is SUPER hard. Those who are white and socio-economically aligned with our poorest black voters are Republicans. So, the only option is a socially conservative, pro-life, anti-gay, pro-gun, black Democratic candidate. Or Independent. And you have to have a LOT of money to win as an Independent.
When I look at what happened in Alabama, there were two things. African-Americans came out in droves, and some whites switched parties. It took both. We don't like to talk about it, but winning Republican voters in red states is a must. And only conservative Democrats can pull it off. Like Kirsten Gillibrand.
I remember when Nancy Pelosi said that it has to be okay to have a pro-Life Democrat. I was sick inside. Is that what it takes? I don't have an answer. But I have to admit, if a black pro-life Democratic candidate offered to champion black issues, I'd be torn. It would really depend on who was running against him... in the primaries.
It's messed up.
That said, you probably shouldn't have posted that article here.
Demsrule86
(68,555 posts)herding cats
(19,564 posts)It is an election year after all. We must gather our forces into a circle before we start firing.
Demsrule86
(68,555 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)I look at motive, often you will see foul play. Not always.
BRINGING it up on social media is what I am referring to of course. Otherwise we wouldn't be discussing it no matter WHO wrote it.
Demsrule86
(68,555 posts)herding cats
(19,564 posts)I remember the infighting and the division from when this article was published.
Like I said, all things old are new again.
Demsrule86
(68,555 posts)herding cats
(19,564 posts)Due in part to many such pieces such as this one which were circulating around the internet. We still haven't overcome the damages done during that time from all the hit pieces aimed at dividing Democrats.
Which is why I can think of no good reason to post this again now.
blake2012
(1,294 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Demsrule86
(68,555 posts)which was two years ago. Democrats are POC only champion...the GOP runs white supremacists and Nazis. Now who gains by attacks on the Democratic pAarty? hmmm
DFW
(54,365 posts)Two years is an eon in politics. Is there nothing written since March 2016 that makes the point with current news?
Demsrule86
(68,555 posts)successful for those who find this sort of thing necessary...for the rest of us stuck with Trump not so much.
DFW
(54,365 posts)Dredging up divisive stuff and posting here is of dubious value at best, and at worst, well, we've seen enough of THAT in the last 2 years to know the what and why.
Demsrule86
(68,555 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/04/bernie-sanders-and-a-civil-rights-turning-point/479739/
Ask and you shall receive!
Demsrule86
(68,555 posts)No more protesting?
Cha
(297,158 posts)Thanks for Shining the Light on this, NCTraveler
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)IronLionZion
(45,433 posts)Vice aired some BS like this about black people in Alabama right before the Doug Jones election also. Liberals are our own worst enemy.
Black people have been migrating from North to South for many years with the decline of rust belt manufacturing.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)underthematrix
(5,811 posts)This article is about stirring the pot. My ONLY goal is turn the House and Senate BLUE, Navy Blue. African Americans are gonna need to go stealth like we did back in the day. I don't want attention or kudos or acknowledgement. I just wanna turn the Congress blue. It's the only way to restore our Democracy and Democratic institutions.
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)That is as simplified as it gets.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)IronLionZion
(45,433 posts)ecstatic
(32,688 posts)brush
(53,771 posts)underthematrix
(5,811 posts)blue. NOTHING. This is the common goal that goes beyond any of our differences.
brush
(53,771 posts)Demsrule86
(68,555 posts)The cart before the horse post. Winning back the majority is a common goal that goes beyond our differences. It is essential in order to save this country.
Civic Justice
(870 posts)loyalsister
(13,390 posts)Democrats have done the bare minimum to get black voters to votes against electing policy makers who would reverse meager gains, then expect loyalty and gratitude. The win at all cost neglected to explore what people of color want when it comes to policy goals. The Democratic party's alliance with the 2nd wave women's movement is a clear example.
They were so focused on economic opportunities (for white women) that the possibility that some women who would rather be home with their kids was not part of the agenda. Domestic workers were predominantly black women who did not see gains in autonomy because they were taking care of the children and homes of white women who were making advancements.
As liberals focused on promoting successful careers for white women, women who would rather stay home and raise their kids were decided. Especially if they needed a social safety net to do so. Everytime welfare reform came up, black women with children were front and center in the propaganda. Democrats exploited rather than challenged it.
Segregation, health disparities, economic disparities, police brutality are among many other expressions of white supremacy that are deeply embedded and persistent. Democrats are still quick to deny that such things exist, much less look for policies to address them.
"All lives matter" is not just a RW mantra.
MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)All lives matter is definitely an RW mantra and insinuating there is no difference between the RW and Democrats on matters of equality is absolutely appalling.
Sure we need to better, but that kind of hyperbole is ridiculous.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,327 posts)resistance when it's brought up, though. I mean, I have some ideas. But as an institution built within a framework of white supremacy, the Democratic party -- as all institutions in the country that have been built within a framework of white supremacy -- must not fear the hard conversations required to make ourselves stronger and better.
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)Stop it.
You damned well know what you're implying.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,327 posts)The Democratic party tends to take voters of color, particularly black voters, for granted. Some Democratic candidates and elected officials aren't great on race when it comes to awareness, effects of policy, community concerns, etc. Some Democratic activists aren't interested in racial issues beyond election day.
Is it better than what the Republican party does? Sure, but that doesn't make it acceptable, right or something that doesn't need changing.
Civic Justice
(870 posts)Egnever
(21,506 posts)Take some fucking ownership.
Run for office. Sitting back and whinging is easy. Do something about it if you agree with this nonsense.
There is nothing preventing POC from running and steering the democrats any way they want. Waiting for the white folks to deliver it to you is foolish. There are tons of districts that are majority minority that are represented by white guys. Run someone!
The only way to affect the change you want is to get your feet wet and do it.
I grow increasingly tired of reading how poc are the backbone of the Dem party in one breathe and in the next complaining that dems don't do enough for them. If they are the backbone then running candidates that do represent them should be dead easy.
You can't have both.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,327 posts)Except the institutional racism present within our nation, our political system and its parties. Except the dismissal of concerns from POC as being "divisive" or "too much too soon" or "identity politics." Except the vast wealth differential between white people and POC, and we all know how easy it is to run without money.
Oh my goodness, you poor dear. Do take a load off. It must be so, so hard to hear how people aren't happy. And after all you do for them.
Cha
(297,158 posts)Democratic Base. Hillary was all about helping our African Americans brothers and sisters in her campaign.
And, so was President Barack Obama.. and since he's retired he's doing exactly what he said he would do..
My Brother's Keeper forges ahead with Obama and despite Trump
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2017/10/03/my-brothers-keeper-forges-ahead-with-obama-and-despite-trump/
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)and especially Bill & Hillary Clinton.
The Clintons have always been the friends they could rely on when other politicians ignored them & exploited them merely for campaign photo ops.
POC know who has always had their back.
Thank you President Barack Obama & First Lady Michele Obama, President Bill & Sec Hillary Clinton, and the great, strong Democratic Party.
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Here's another favorite: Oct 2016
Sybrina Fulton, Gwen Carr, Lucy McBath, and more took to the stage at the Democratic National Convention Tuesday night (July 26) to speak on behalf of their sons and daughters they lost due to gun violence, as well as to show their support for Hillary Clinton.
Link to tweet
?s=20
The future of creating change was stolen from these women also in 2016
Cha
(297,158 posts)right!
Mahalo for that, Wwcd.. too bad more didn't listen to what she had to say instead of the 3rd party RFs like Jill Stein and ssarandon.
Hillary Clinton was more dangerous than Donald Trump: Susan Sarandon
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/hillary-clinton-was-more-dangerous-than-donald-trump-susan-sarandon/articleshow/61830158.cms
People who voted for Jill Stein were tricked, and we are all paying for it
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/hillary-clinton-was-more-dangerous-than-donald-trump-susan-sarandon/articleshow/61830158.cms
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)The idea that racism is a phenomenon based purely on hate is has to be challenged internally and culturallyy. It's a lot of work and requires admissions of being very wrong for a very long time. To give the benefit of the doubt, I think that people don't understand how much work we still need to do. But, I still get frustrated by the resistance to exploring possibilities that could provide foundations for real progress for marginalized individuals.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,327 posts)Civic Justice
(870 posts)If any Administration Put Black Concerns to the Top of Priority.... there would be so much backlash, not just from Republicans, but from Working Class and Poor Democrats whites as well. That is the Real Fact!!!
As Black People- We've always said:
I Don't Want Nobody To Give Me Nothing, Just Open the Doors (of Equality, Honestly and Fairly) I'll Get It Myself.
Pieces like this OP, want to stir up something, that neither Republican nor Democrats will push to the top of their agenda. People pushed that same stuff when Obama was President, and IF Obama had tried to push Black Concerns to the Top, the Tea Party would have gone even more ballistic than they did at just seeing a black man as President. So, Obama's aim and goal, was as he said "LET'S REBUILD FROM THE BOTTOM UP, AND MAKE A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD FOR ALL AMERICAN'S... Even when he said that, some of the Right leaning Democrats did not get on the wagon or become cheer leaders for it, and Republican went into full on war mode to attack anything and everything President Obama would propose, and OUR system, even let the Republican Block his right to fill the Supreme Court Position.
So, let's not get into spinning the game of "trying to play black people as a political pawn".... Black people support the Democratic Party, because if one notes, as the Democratic Conventions IT IS FILLED WITH DIVERSITY, where as the Republican Conventions is 99.8% white people.
People have the wrong concept about black people... We are more like what James Brown said, and he said it decades ago... I don't want nobody to give me, Just Open the Doors (of Equality Honestly and Fairly) I'll get it myself.
Black people took care of white people for Centuries, now if people get out of the way and stop the block and tackle, shuffle and playing shell games, talking loud and saying nothing, and Open Up the Door, we will get things for ourselves.
Look at the long hidden history of Stolen Contribution derived by forced Slave Labor to American white society, and look at Black Inventions and Black innovations that have been transformative in America .... there's a long history of capability and abilities that represent much more than credit is given.
GaryCnf
(1,399 posts)or where I livein Memphis. We don't need more of the "Rah, rah, just get out of our way" because the FACT is that "out of our way" is a million times more revolutionary than white folks' worst nightmare.
Get out of our way? 60 Trillion f'ing dollars were drained from our community since the days of the middle passage. 60 Trillion dollars that we not only never got back but are having multiplied every day while we are exploited by rich white people. 60 Trillion dollars of homes to be passed down, of educations, of communities, of families and of futures have been stolen from us. Get out of the way? . . . Give us back what you stole.
Get out of our way? The vast majority of criminal laws were INTENTIONALLY designed to put black people in prison or to give cops the right to shoot us down. Michael Brown is dead because white folks made it a crime to walk down the side of the street so cops would have the "discretion" to yank folks over to "talk to them," knowing that 9 times out of 10 it would be US who got yanked over. Get out of our way? Repeal every post Civil War criminal law and replace them with laws that criminalize conduct which causes DIRECT and SERIOUS harm to another person. Get out of our way? Strip cops of the power to use any force not also allowed to private citizens and give us the same rights of self-defense when they do. Get out of our way, free and enfranchise the millions of black men who were victimized by the 1996 Violent Crime Act and its state-level counterparts.
Do you seriously think white folks are going for that?
I could go on, but the point is this, the accomplishments of great people of color do not erase the oppression we face and people who talk like we should be happy and enthused because some white people are willing to incrementally loosening the shackles we still wear is exactly what cost us as a party more votes in Detroit, Philly, Columbus, than the margin by which Trump won the states where those cities are located.
They aren't going to "get out of the way." They couldn't even if they wanted to.
They need to fix the problems they created. They need to talk about the water problems in Flint, about mass incarceration, about capital punishment, about jobs IN THE CITY and they need to do it OUT LOUD and during the general election.
Civic Justice
(870 posts)13th Amendment:
"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."
THIS PART NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED... (except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted)
THIS IS precisely why the Prison system and the Justice System use Judicial Process based on black codes and Jim Crow scamming of the law to seek out any means to "incarcerate blacks". Prison's in America is Big Business for the system as well as for a great many, who profit from Prisoner Labor, and now "For Profit Prisons Facilities" run by corporations, and guess who own's those corporations ??????????
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As Democrats who stand on the platform for human rights and civil rights, and equality... Then the stand needs to start at 'RECTIFYING THE LANGUAGE OF THE 13TH Amendment TO REMOVE the phrase ((except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted) THEN, we can work to nullify the laws that were constructed to fulfill that means of enslaving people!!!! And then, we take the profit motive out of it... and The system then becomes one of Rehabilitation for those crimes that one can be rehabilitated from.... which means, education and no life long label as a felon holding people back and promoting recidivism.
President Obama understood this, but with his hands tied, he did push to get the "felon" box taken off of many employment applications, BUT... with background checks, people just get the info another way and still deny people suitable jobs to sustain themselves.
There's a reason a black man get's shot in his own back yard, while the Holmes guy comes out of a theater in Denver after having killed a mass of people, and received not one bullet, but 20 rounds were fired upon the man in his back yard, just this week.
American history of full of white male dominated system, who wrongly takes the disposition, they can "ration our rights and equality to blacks and women"... as if he is the controller of American Citizens.
People should really read the stat's on Crime from the FBI site... it is very different than the public promoted narrative.
People complain because I write long posting, but I talk about the "elephant" in the room, which many claim they know of, but pretend its not really there.
I did not come to this site, just as some "Rubber Stamper of Democrats- with one liner comments"... I come to address the reality and spirit of Truth, that as Democrats that MUST be address, supported and promoted... Not just for campaign slogans, or vote getting games, but to be "sincere backer" for Truth, Justice, Equality and the Freedoms and Opportunities As Americans.
I dealt with the Conservative Republican Backlash on City Data, and called them on their stuff, and most fade away when truth hits the script. Here, it seems people want to have too much "slap stick, as if everything is going to be all right, as a status quo, as long as we vote. Yes, the Vote is definitely important, but what we vote for in principles is of even greater importance, then it will be less trouble getting people to the polls, because they will understand exactly what they are voting for, which is the change that is needed.
The only thing gets that done is "STOP IGNORING THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM" AND IGNORING THE PACK OF ELEPHANTS THAT ARE SURROUNDING THE BUILDING !!!!! to do that.. means to have dialog and face the truths, then stand to promote truths.
GaryCnf
(1,399 posts)my friend. It needs to be said.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)You nailed it... white people are considered the superior default who have forged the path for humanity.
The door has never been opened to equalize the starting point. Embracing economic support for all families, and especially those who start out with less wealth and other historical advantages AND affirmative action would serve to open doors. Pointing out that endorsing policies that forbid unequal treatment is a low bar and not nearly enough been done to earn the support of black people
I agree that politics prevent pursuit of policies that promote equity, and I also respect a point of view that political obstacles has been used as an excuse for too long.
misanthrope
(7,411 posts)**
Demsrule86
(68,555 posts)It is a hit piece and so is your reply in my opinion.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)and I have also heard "blue lives matter" and have seen politicians act on it. The desire for police union support is top priority for some Democratic party politicians in MO. Jeff Roorda was once a Democratic state representative. Jay Nixon imposed a curfew and sent the national guard to Ferguson.
Protestors were supposed to just be grateful they weren't killed rather than expect respect for their position that unarmed killings of black men was unacceptable. The Democratic 2016 gubernatorial candidate had been AG at that time and was endorsed by police unions.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)MicaelS
(8,747 posts)You nailed it with this part.
ismnotwasm
(41,976 posts)And for too long their concerns were convenient during election year to be ignored later. I, as a white Democrat, vow to help change this.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)so the script has changed quite a bit since then...
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)It's a binary choice, they either vote Democratic and get something, maybe not much, or else Republicans win.
If they vote Republican, Republicans win.
If they vote Third Party, Republicans win.
If they stay home, Republicans win.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,327 posts)some of its members?
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)But it an underlying question that will be there no matter what.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,327 posts)Wwcd
(6,288 posts)all races, genders & walks of life socially or economicaly.
It was not tbe Democratic Party under Obama nor any other Democrat that jammed that door shut.
Republicans have done everything possible to stop the forward push for equality & human rights.
Because of the ever allowed the Blacks & minorities & women full freedom equal to white males, there would be no Racist RW.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,327 posts)Which is awfully convenient for good white liberals who aren't interested in examining their own biases or how they've benefited from their own privilege, who love to see the diversity of a 75/25 white/POC assembly but feel like something's off if the ratio gets any darker, who congratulate themselves at who's at the table but don't ask themselves who's missing and why, and so on.
To achieve equality, if not equity, the left wing has to examine its own racism and biases, as well. I don't know why people resist that, or try to put it off until after the next election, which again, is always pretty convenient.
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)You really want to make a case of the Dem Party being racist. Who do you suggedt they align with ?
If not the Dems then who?
The Democratic Party is a Party inclusive of all .
Your defense of this biased article makes me wonder what your own agenda is because it is far off base from what the Democratic Party has always stood for
Bye.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,327 posts)doesn't affect the Democratic Party?
What do you lose?
What do you gain by entertaining the possibility? What do you lose?
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)Figures.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,327 posts)When marginalized people ask you to do better, and you ask them where else they're going to go to get it better than you give it, that's a shitty, abusive move.
Me.
(35,454 posts)The attack on DEms is what's sorry
betsuni
(25,472 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)All Lives Matter is a RW Racist response to BLM. Normally seen as a bumper sticker next to the MAGA one.
Totall lacking in historical perspective.
If only those blacks had stayed with the Republicans when the went from the party of Goldwater to the party of George Wallace.
braddy
(3,585 posts)campaign for governor.
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John Fante
(3,479 posts)artillery early this year.
The internal polling must be awful for the GOP.
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)This is straight out of RW propaganda.
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MicaelS
(8,747 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Demsrule86
(68,555 posts)This article is divisive and untrue...
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Civic Justice
(870 posts)Last edited Thu Mar 22, 2018, 11:48 PM - Edit history (1)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=10396929betsuni
(25,472 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)MicaelS
(8,747 posts)Who would have thunk it?
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)mcar
(42,306 posts)And I find this, yet another ridiculous hit piece on Democrats.?
On Democratic Underground.
A poor choice, in my opinion.
JI7
(89,247 posts)to put a stop to it.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Curious to know what inspired you to post it now.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)of having to deal with White privilege is lack of access to capital (to go to school, or to start and sustain a business). The problem of access to capital is compounded by income inequality, where those with money dominate the playing field and squeeze out new or small players that are not well funded.