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herding cats

(19,558 posts)
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 06:28 PM Mar 2018

It's happening. McMaster out Bolton is in.

WASHINGTON — Lt. Gen. H. R. McMaster, the battle-tested Army officer tapped as President Trump’s national security adviser last year to stabilize a turbulent foreign policy operation, will resign and be replaced by John R. Bolton, a hard-line former United States ambassador to the United Nations, White House officials said Thursday.

General McMaster will retire from the military, the officials said. He has been discussing his departure with President Trump for several weeks, they said, but decided to speed up his departure, in part because questions about his status were casting a shadow over his conversations with foreign officials.

The officials also said that Mr. Trump wanted to fill out his national security team before his meeting with North Korea’s leader, Kim Jong-un. He replaced Secretary of State Rex W. Tillerson with the C.I.A. director, Mike Pompeo, last week.

Officials emphasized that General McMaster’s departure was a mutual decision and amicable, with none of the recrimination that marked Mr. Tillerson’s exit. They said it was not related to a leak on Tuesday of briefing materials for Mr. Trump’s phone call with President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/22/us/politics/hr-mcmaster-trump-bolton.html#click=https://t.co/NcRSvCbDcG
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It's happening. McMaster out Bolton is in. (Original Post) herding cats Mar 2018 OP
We're so fucked. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #1
"We are so beyond Fucked now... alterfurz Mar 2018 #36
Dupe blake2012 Mar 2018 #2
Code red, folks poboy2 Mar 2018 #3
Bolton -- racist, warmonger, has NRA job of spreading guns worldwide. He's the worst imaginable. Hoyt Mar 2018 #4
We're bound to have a war with somebody CanonRay Mar 2018 #5
My guess is Iran. herding cats Mar 2018 #11
I think Iran, too. H2O Man Mar 2018 #22
You're a lot smarter than I am. herding cats Mar 2018 #24
While I wouldn't H2O Man Mar 2018 #33
I'll keep an eye out for it. herding cats Mar 2018 #34
PM me when its ready please! coeur_de_lion Mar 2018 #35
I was already sick with a stomach virus..... LeftInTX Mar 2018 #6
"My Generals" is down to one. chelsea0011 Mar 2018 #7
Hope it blows up Cha Mar 2018 #8
I hope it does, too. herding cats Mar 2018 #9
Exactly.. I bet they're Cha Mar 2018 #12
And Bolton is the perfect man to deliver that cover. herding cats Mar 2018 #14
The brand New "Axis of Evil" Cha Mar 2018 #16
I'm afraid so. herding cats Mar 2018 #18
Why in the world do you think we have a "rest of us?" rzemanfl Mar 2018 #27
Touch herding cats Mar 2018 #29
Make it stop. Glimmer of Hope Mar 2018 #10
Put there by Putin. So we know Bolton is compromised, too. Tatiana Mar 2018 #13
War Pig. Bolton will have us in another war by years end. sarcasmo Mar 2018 #15
Gah! What can we do to help Mueller speed things up? Lars39 Mar 2018 #17
I was so sure the article called Trump a loser BoneyardDem Mar 2018 #19
Has to be a typo. herding cats Mar 2018 #21
I was hoping this wouldnt happen. Nt NCTraveler Mar 2018 #20
We all were. herding cats Mar 2018 #23
+1 nt NCTraveler Mar 2018 #25
Bolton is the most kind of dangerous person. madaboutharry Mar 2018 #26
This is madness. smirkymonkey Mar 2018 #28
Get your fallout shelters ready nt maryellen99 Mar 2018 #30
Costco sells a years worth of disaster food for about $700 herding cats Mar 2018 #31
These days, Bolton should have the shelf life of a Mooch Blue Owl Mar 2018 #32

alterfurz

(2,469 posts)
36. "We are so beyond Fucked now...
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 07:38 PM
Mar 2018

...that the light from Fucked won't reach us for 10,000 years." -- Roseanne Barr

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
11. My guess is Iran.
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 06:46 PM
Mar 2018

My husband says North Korea.

I don't know which one is worse, or even if they're mutually exclusive.

We realistically could be seeing the prelude of the next world war.

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
33. While I wouldn't
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 07:17 PM
Mar 2018

say I'm smarter than you or anyone else here, I do enjoy some good sources. I've been in touch with one, since reading your OP. I hope to have an essay of value within the next 24 hours or so.

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
14. And Bolton is the perfect man to deliver that cover.
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 06:54 PM
Mar 2018

I had the exact same thought, but there's a real risk here these fools could start another world war.

Iran, China, North Korea and Russia would be a hell of a force for the rest of us to try and fight.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
13. Put there by Putin. So we know Bolton is compromised, too.
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 06:52 PM
Mar 2018

G-d. Just... this is beyond a train wreck. It's a never-ending horror show.

 

BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
19. I was so sure the article called Trump a loser
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 06:58 PM
Mar 2018
General McMaster’s serious, somber style and preference for order made him an uncomfortable fit with a president whose style is looser, and who has little patience for the detail and nuance of complex national security issues. They had differed on policy, with General McMaster cautioning against ripping up the nuclear deal with Iran without a strategy for what would come next, and tangling with Mr. Trump over the strategy for American forces in Afghanistan.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mcmaster-to-resign-as-national-security-adviser-and-will-be-replaced-by-john-bolton/ar-BBKzUaa?li=BBnb7Kz

I'm sure it's a typo


madaboutharry

(40,189 posts)
26. Bolton is the most kind of dangerous person.
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 07:08 PM
Mar 2018

He is intelligent, well spoken, and comes across as a person with great knowledge and experience. And underneath it all is a warmongering lunatic.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
28. This is madness.
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 07:11 PM
Mar 2018

It just keeps getting worse and there is no end in sight. I don't know what to think anymore. I don't know if we can wait until November for a change in the guard.

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
31. Costco sells a years worth of disaster food for about $700
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 07:15 PM
Mar 2018

I laughed when I saw that, then Puerto Rico happened... now I'm rethinking my previous sense of humor altogether.

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