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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDid anyone else watch the interview of the whistleblower of CA on "The Beat"?
Anyone have the video?
triron
(21,999 posts)poboy2
(2,078 posts)I found this from just today-
The Cambridge Analytica Whistleblower Said He Wanted To Create The NSAs Wet Dream
Posted on March 22, 2018, at 11:44 a.m.
Christopher Wylie, the whistleblower who helped found Cambridge Analytica, recently came clean about his role in creating the controversial data mining outfit. BuzzFeed News has obtained communications that show what he was thinking when he went about founding what would become Cambridge Analytica and why being evil pays more.
A few months before Christopher Wylie helped build Cambridge Analytica, and five years before he helped bring it down, the data scientist had already settled on an ambition: I want to build the NSAs wet dream, he told an acquaintance.
That was October 2013, and Wylie, in his early twenties, was gathering massive amounts of personal data as research director for SCL Group, a contractor that did military and political campaign work. He was also trying to raise money for his new startup concept then called Arg.us that would ingest users' social media activity and use it to build psychographic profiles that marketers could use to identify our personalities and, possibly, influence our behavior.
Now Wylie is a central figure in one of the biggest stories in the world though nobody can quite figure out what the story is. Is Cambridge Analytica a sinister conspiracy, or a high-flying fraud? Are the victims the political campaigns they worked for, or the citizens they targeted with ads? And is Wylie himself an altruist whistleblower, or a conspirator who got cold feet?
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https://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanmac/christopher-wylie-cambridge-analytica-scandal?utm_term=.vpADz7qzv#.dbnbVDJV2
eleny
(46,166 posts)No isolated clip of that segment yet.
poboy2
(2,078 posts)eleny
(46,166 posts)Issuing the warning through his firm can't be enough.
Giuliani knew about the nuts and bolts of how a major crime against the United States was going down and essentially did nothing.
poboy2
(2,078 posts)He claims to have warned them himself, and has documents to prove his story.
eleny
(46,166 posts)poboy2
(2,078 posts)It gives a mixed bag background, but yes, brave to be talking like he is.
Pink hair aside, I hope he is legit.
I am sort of surprised this thread isn't more active. I guess we were the only ones to have caught it.
eleny
(46,166 posts)I have it on auto recording all episodes along with Rachel and Lawrence. But I've watched a number of the interviews with Wylie. He's so candid and now he says he has paperwork proof of what he talked about today. Given how one of the CA guys has been fired, if we can really believe that, then Wylie is spot on.
Hellzapoppin' today!
poboy2
(2,078 posts)As I say, with the pink hair he's got one strike already so he has to be 'normal' for me to give him an honest consideration.
He seems like he is a straight shooter and has the goods.
eleny
(46,166 posts)I'm 71 and pink hair doesn't register as a negative. I have a 65 year old friend who does pink hair.
poboy2
(2,078 posts)Always! I'm just analyzing the presentation with the pink hair comment.
What I'm saying is he is in no way a 'flake' or anything of the sort!
If he had pink hair and behaved like Carter Page or Nunberg...no.
Only question I have is he a hero, or was he down with the world domination plan but got cold feet.
In the end it doesn't matter for our purposes. He made the right choice.
eleny
(46,166 posts)I'll have to go over to You Tube and find his interviews to watch again. I got the sense that it dawned on him that his work was being used to undermine the democracy of the United States. I'm sure he said that to more than one interviewer including Ari Melber.
So he appeared genuine and at the worst he's trying to portray himself as that. He must have understood the consequences if CA was found out. And he may have decided to be the one who pulled back the curtain. So did he do it to save himself or because he had been naive and then saw the light? For me that would determine if he's heroic or not, truly honest or self serving. I suppose it does matter since that determines if we believe him or stay skeptical from here on out.
I never joined Facebook. The trust issue is probably pretty critical for members. From here on out they need to be cyber warriors on their own behalf.
poboy2
(2,078 posts)"But while the documents do not always cast Wylie touted by some as The Millennials' first great whistleblower in a flattering light, they also do not call his claims into question. In fact, they bolster the substance of the reporting by the New York Times and the Observer about Cambridge Analytica, and add credibility to the allegations Wylie has made to the press since last Friday. And if the documents reveal the Canadian citizen as a complicated figure, that places him in a long line of conflicted and complex whistleblowers."
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Wylie's brief stint trying to launch a startup was largely defined by his quest to fund his endeavor. And based on documents, he appeared to have been largely agnostic about where that funding would come from. Around the time he started thinking about starting the company, he was already discussing with friends his close connections to wealthy Russians. In one correspondence, he said he was worried about taking their money because they lacked technological expertise but found the idea of working for a crazy evil Russian quite intriguing.
Recently, Wylie has seemingly had a change of heart. In public interviews since identifying himself last week, he criticized Kogan, who he said flew back and forth between Russia and did research at a St. Petersburg university. Wylie also spoke about Cambridge Analyticas contact with Russias second-largest oil company, Lukoil, over some questionable project proposals.
eleny
(46,166 posts)kentuck
(111,079 posts)I thought.