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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/03/hiring-john-bolton-would-be-a-betrayal-of-donald-trumps-base/555020/Hiring John Bolton Would Be a Betrayal of Donald Trump's Base
The president won the 2016 election with foreign-policy positions antithetical to those championed by the perennially hawkish Iraq War supporter.
Joshua Roberts / Reuters
Conor Friedersdorf
Mar 9, 2018 Politics
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Trump hiring Bolton would fuel this same loss of faith in democratic politics, even as it poses similar substantive risks: Bolton is another hawk who shows no evidence of having learned from past mistakes; and hed be put in a position to urge many new warshe has favored many more wars in his lifetime than America has fought, including all the most ill-considered wars that it has actually fought.
Whats more, the risks that a hawk prone to supporting ill-considered wars would pose to any administration are likely to be magnified under the erratic, bellicose Trump, especially if he seeks to compensate for his fragile ego or insecure masculinity, or simply decides he wants to be an even greater object of attention.
Even setting psychology aside, the elevated risks remain.
After all, Obamas cautious instincts made him much less interventionist than (to cite just two examples) his Iraq-War supporting secretaries of state, whereas Trump, in spite of his anti-interventionist, America First campaign rhetoric, has his own long history of hawkishness, even recording a video in 2011 urging the U.S. to go into Libya and overthrow the regime there. Plus, Trump is arguably less prepared to prosecute a war than any of his predecessors in living memory (for reasons noted at length in this case against more U.S. warring in Syria), making it especially fraught for him to have an extreme hawk as an adviser.
As Damon Linker, who shares all of these concerns, points out, Trump is prone to making impulsive decisions and tends to defer to the most forceful voice in the room, especially when it conveys information with confident bluster. That would give Bolton enormous power to shape policywhich means the power to get the U.S. to launch big new wars as well as expand the numerous ones we're already waging across wide swaths of the Middle East, Africa, and South Asia.
Bolton is also unusually brash and undiplomatic in his rhetoric. The White House needs a counterbalance to those qualities, not another rhetorical bomb thrower. And just as Obamas appointments carried an opportunity cost, robbing Democrats of a bigger bench of noninterventionists going forward, so too will the Trump administration deprive the GOP of folks who share the noninterventionist ideas that clearly appeal to a large swath of its primary electorate.
All things considered, Bolton seems uniquely ill-suited to the job. Do noninterventionist Trump supporters care enough to speak up against him? As yet, Tucker Carlsons smug trolling is the most vocal opposition on offer; and because Carlson has already deployed his one skeptical facial expression and undifferentiated contempt in ostensible takedowns of everyone from a Teen Vogue editor to Americas Roma community, even regular viewers have been trained to regard his words as mere mercenary theater. Boltons possible rise thus lays bare this problem: The populist right is without any means to stop recklessness, leaving Bolton skeptics to hope superficial Trump still doesnt like his mustache. Wouldnt it be something if in the end that spared us from a catastrophic war?
CincyDem
(6,338 posts)...a statement from Trump saying hes no longer a card carrying white racist. Cuz thats the only way he angers his base.
eleny
(46,166 posts)still_one
(92,061 posts)Autumn
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Va Lefty
(6,252 posts)njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)quartz007
(1,216 posts)stuck to a tube of crazy glue in tRump's small hands.
Impossible to break that bond unless...
tRump bans all assault rifles or gets caught getting a blow job in Mar-a-lago from a gay man.
TheBlackAdder
(28,167 posts)Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)that there is no wall. We will have a good 10% of so peel away with that one. That is if we were say subjected to this asshole long term. I really don't think long term for this asshole. I give him one year.
quartz007
(1,216 posts)war monger Bolton is the only person tRump found who will go hand in hand with the dear leader on killing the Iran nuclear deal, which he has repeatedly said he wants killed.
dalton99a
(81,404 posts)Corgigal
(9,291 posts)Finds out that the draft is back, and it will be grabbing their kids. Might get a few of ours, but anyone who has any means already saw this, and tried to place their young person out of harms way. Over seas, in college, hiding spot. Etc...
I'm sorry for anyone serving in any active duty capacity. They don't care about their own families, they certainly don't care about you.
JHB
(37,157 posts)Trump's base doesn't actually care about neocons, and whatever might linger from earlier eras has been erased by Bolton's haunting of the FOX News Green Room.
And he's publishing in The Atlantic. Reminder, Connor me boyo, Trump's base does not read The Atlantic. Wear that lack of reading as a badge of honor, in fact, you useless dink.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)who they consider to be their enemies.
I think the biggest cheerleaders for the Iraq War in 2003 were also the biggest cheerleaders for Donald Trump in 2016, including during the primaries.
Oneironaut
(5,486 posts)If Trump says that war is good, they'll cheer for war. If Trump says that apples are blue and pigs can fly, then Trump's base will take that as fact. They will follow him and agree with him no matter what he does.
Initech
(100,041 posts)Puh-lease!!!!! That's a requirement to work any cabinet level position in the Trump administration! Give me a break!
Takket
(21,529 posts)drumpf could hire most anyone to do anything (except Hillary and Obama) and be praised for it by his base. It isn't about policy with these people. It is about a cult of personality, and the crippling need to be "right" in the face of overwhelming evidence that they are wrong about everything.