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Cicada

(4,533 posts)
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 12:59 AM Mar 2018

If Trump is indicted will that increase turnout by his supporters?

Ted Cruz says that right now Dems will crawl over broken glass to vote. If Trump is indicted won’t that cause Repubs to also be super motivated to vote? Manafort’s candidate Victor Yanukovich in Ukraine ran against prime minister Yulia Tymoshenko saying she was crooked. I bet his rallies had chants lock her up. After winning Yanukovich tried her, convicted her, sent her to prison. But that turned out disastrously. Tymoshenko supporters went insane, took up arms, ran Yanukovich out of the country into exile in Russia. Ukraine, weak after that was invaded by Russia and split into two. Bringing criminal charges against Julia destroyed Yanukovich and destroyed Ukraine. Would indictment of Trump also have bad unintended consequences? Would it be like poking a stick in a hornets nest?

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If Trump is indicted will that increase turnout by his supporters? (Original Post) Cicada Mar 2018 OP
No way. His base is all in a propaganda bubble. sharedvalues Mar 2018 #1
No blake2012 Mar 2018 #2
I don't think so-- these aren't very conscientious types dawg day Mar 2018 #3
Impeachment or indictment wont keep trump off the ballot Cicada Mar 2018 #5
No I don't think so. Willie Pep Mar 2018 #4
Who says they turned out the first time? fescuerescue Mar 2018 #6
Only his hard core supporters.... not a lot of people who just happened to vote for him last time world wide wally Mar 2018 #7
History shows that voters turned out in record numbers for the mid term Thekaspervote Mar 2018 #8

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
1. No way. His base is all in a propaganda bubble.
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 01:01 AM
Mar 2018

Indictments will hit some of them like a ton of bricks. Fox news support is starting to crack: Zucker called them propaganda and said everyone knows that. Ralph Peters (suspended because he was too conservative) quit and called them propaganda.

The propaganda bubble is teetering. When it pops it will pop with a bang. Take even 5% of voters out of the GOP base and this president is sunk.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
3. I don't think so-- these aren't very conscientious types
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 01:44 AM
Mar 2018

They need the promise of power to care. If Trump's impeached or indicted, otherwise not running, they'll think that everyone's the enemy, and angrily stay home.

They have little loyalty to the GOP.

Most GOP voters would still vote for the GOP candidate, but without the Trumpists, they won't win. I hope.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
5. Impeachment or indictment wont keep trump off the ballot
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 02:00 AM
Mar 2018

He can’t be convicted after impeachment, indictment won’t cause him to drop out

So Trumpsters will still have a Trump to vote for.

I figure odds look good for us now, so I don’t want to reshuffle the deck

Willie Pep

(841 posts)
4. No I don't think so.
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 01:50 AM
Mar 2018

I think it would cause a total collapse of support among marginal Trump supporters. The hardcore Trump supporters will never abandon him but those are not the people we need to worry about. The marginal voters are the ones who will sink him if they jump ship and most of what I read indicates that they are already in the process of becoming disillusioned with Trump.

Thekaspervote

(32,755 posts)
8. History shows that voters turned out in record numbers for the mid term
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 04:40 AM
Mar 2018

Following Bill Clinton’s impeachment in support of him. One of the only times a sitting president gained instead of losing seats in congress at mid term.

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