Want to know how Alt-Right and Alt-Left rationalize Trump?

[DetlefK]

Read the comment-sections. (Warning: RT is not a news-outlet. They regularly lie by omission. Be careful.)

https://www.rt.com/usa/422088-congress-budget-government-funding/
Congress passes more debt? Trump can do nothing about that. He's powerless.

https://www.rt.com/usa/422081-trump-security-adviser-mcmaster-bolton/
Trump is calling in warmonger John Bolton? He only did that because the deep state made him do that. They want war. Trump is powerless.

https://www.rt.com/usa/422084-trump-bolton-war-cabinet-reaction/
The US is clearly preparing for war. But not Trump. Trump is innocent in all this. Trump appointing John Bolton means that the deep state wants to drag the US into another war.





To these people, everything is always the fault of the US but somehow never the fault of US President Trump.

[shanny]

1. There is no equivalent

on the left to the neo-nazi alt-right.

[Sanity Claws]

2. Alt-left?

What is that? It seems that you are buying into the new-nazis’ framing of the world. I have never heard any progressive or Democrat describe him or herself as alt-left.

[DetlefK]

5. There is an Alt-Left. I have met such guys in person.

They engage in crazy conspiracy-theories, they love Russia, they hate the US, they hate the US-establishment and love Trump because he's anti-establishment.

The only major difference to the Alt-Right is that they are not racist.

[Sanity Claws]

6. They sound more alt-alt-right

I have never met anyone who is like that and I have never heard that term before.

In any event, it is still buying into how others frame matters. The way you have described these people, it is clear that there is nothing "left" about them. They are simply non-racist fascists.

[WhiteTara]

8. I know a woman who was on DU

for many many years and her long standing hatred of Clinton for staying with Bill drove her to JPR (I called them JackAssRadicals one day and we didn't speak for a week.) Although guns have always been part of her family (father in military) she has suddenly become 2A rabid and now calls herself "conservative" and she voted for Jill Stein.

What do you call that? A solid democratic family background who has moved so far away...she believes the Uranium One story and so if we as a labeling society, how would you label that? That's why people say alt left

[Sanity Claws]

9. I wouldnt label her

She is a person. If she were a member of a group with whom she identified and that operated under that label, I would use that label. I have never heard a group using the label alt left to describe itself.

[poboy2]

4. Some people regularly lie about there actually being an Alt-Left. Be careful. -nt

[uppityperson]

7. rt is the Russian state news. Are you saying Putin is alt-something?