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boston bean

(36,221 posts) Fri Mar 23, 2018, 10:55 AM Mar 2018

The persons very concerned about oligarchies. You know big business running and rigging our treasury

to enrich themselves.

Are the dupes who fell for an oligarchic scheme to take over America.

I can’t and won’t get over this traitorous stupidity, ever.

Damn trumpasses!!

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The persons very concerned about oligarchies. You know big business running and rigging our treasury (Original Post) boston bean Mar 2018 OP

those most concerned about religious law, the kind found in some islamic countries, happening here, unblock Mar 2018 #1

I reject the assertion that "those" people are to blame, for starters. shanny Mar 2018 #2

More fundamental misunderstanding. Those most invested in his rally cries are the last R B Garr Mar 2018 #6

DU rec... SidDithers Mar 2018 #3

In the US the oligarchs are the hedge fund and private equity fund owners FarCenter Mar 2018 #4

Right now a provable oligarchy, Russia, is running things. boston bean Mar 2018 #5

This is what people are not getting. They all got played big time, and they are R B Garr Mar 2018 #7

No one wants to admit they got played. I dont care if they admit it or not but we have to be able boston bean Mar 2018 #8

Absolutely. This is becoming the story of politics now, not just the 2016 primary R B Garr Mar 2018 #9

unblock

(52,196 posts)

1. those most concerned about religious law, the kind found in some islamic countries, happening here,

Reply to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Mar 23, 2018, 10:58 AM

Mar 2018

are unsurprisingly the ones most keen on establishing religious law here.

they scream and wail about the prospect of "sharia law" as the encode right-wing christian doctrine into law.

shanny

(6,709 posts)

2. I reject the assertion that "those" people are to blame, for starters.

Reply to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Mar 23, 2018, 10:59 AM

Mar 2018

And anyway shouldn't people be concerned about big business running and rigging our treasury to enrich themselves?

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)

6. More fundamental misunderstanding. Those most invested in his rally cries are the last

Reply to shanny (Reply #2)

Fri Mar 23, 2018, 11:18 AM

Mar 2018

ones to see the big picture of how they got played.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)

3. DU rec...

Reply to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Mar 23, 2018, 11:00 AM

Mar 2018

Sid

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)

4. In the US the oligarchs are the hedge fund and private equity fund owners

Reply to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Mar 23, 2018, 11:03 AM

Mar 2018

The CEO of a business is simply their errand boy (or rarely, girl).

Private equity funds.
1) Apollo Global Management LLC. ...
2) Blackstone Group LP. ...
3) Carlyle Group. ...
4) KKR & Company LP. ...
5) Ares Management LP. ...
6) Oaktree Capital Management LP. ...
7) Fortress Investment Group LLC. ...
8) Bain Capital LLC.

Hedge Funds

1 Bridgewater Associates United States Westport $102.9
2 AQR Capital Management United States Greenwich $63.0
3 Man Group United Kingdom London $46.3
4 Two Sigma Investments United States New York $42.3
5 Millennium Management United States New York $33.3
6 Winton Group United Kingdom London $33.0
7 Renaissance Technologies United States East Setauket $32.0
8 Baupost Group United States Boston $29.2
9 Elliott Management Corporation United States New York $28.8
10 BlackRock United States New York $28.6

boston bean

(36,221 posts)

5. Right now a provable oligarchy, Russia, is running things.

Reply to FarCenter (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 23, 2018, 11:07 AM

Mar 2018

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)

7. This is what people are not getting. They all got played big time, and they are

Reply to boston bean (Reply #5)

Fri Mar 23, 2018, 11:22 AM

Mar 2018

focusing on some rah rah cries from long ago rallies. That is NOT what this is about. Too bad we can only give this such short shrift. There is a fundamental and/or intentional misunderstanding of what the oligarchy really is, and the messenger was perfect for their needs. SMH.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)

8. No one wants to admit they got played. I dont care if they admit it or not but we have to be able

Reply to R B Garr (Reply #7)

Fri Mar 23, 2018, 11:50 AM

Mar 2018

state it.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)

9. Absolutely. This is becoming the story of politics now, not just the 2016 primary

Reply to boston bean (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 23, 2018, 05:14 PM

Mar 2018

and general elections. It is not going away. Politicians who don't address this and continue to blame America for what hostile foreign governments are doing are not being forthcoming...

If Hillary knew about what the Russians were up to, then so did others...

edit: and, yes, we have to be able to talk about it. It is current news, the subject of many current CRIMINAL investigations.

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