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Maggie Haberman nails it... (Original Post) brooklynite Mar 2018 OP
I'm sorry, but there is a grand plan at work. It's just not on Trump's part. Tatiana Mar 2018 #1
+5000. :) The other 5000 is for our domestic enemies Hortensis Mar 2018 #3
Agree, 100%. KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2018 #15
Oh, I wish everyone could read this. Very well stated. Hortensis Mar 2018 #16
Exactly!! peggysue2 Mar 2018 #4
That makes sense nt Progressive dog Mar 2018 #7
TrumPutin is the tool Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2018 #10
I dont think they do Maggie, but thanks to some of your coverage, some I think give him the benefit still_one Mar 2018 #2
Maggie Haberman would know... n/t kcr Mar 2018 #5
Really wish more people would stop convincing themselves that Newt Gingrich knows anything oberliner Mar 2018 #6
This. Mr.Bill Mar 2018 #12
Him and Bill Kristol too oberliner Mar 2018 #14
Wrong SayItLoud Mar 2018 #8
"going to do", Maggie. nt mobeau69 Mar 2018 #9
Don't "misunderestimate" the enemy. Big mistake. Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #11
+1 nt backtoblue Mar 2018 #13

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
1. I'm sorry, but there is a grand plan at work. It's just not on Trump's part.
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 05:37 PM
Mar 2018

Every day this chaos further's Putin's plan.

Every day our country gets a bit weaker. We are no longer the leaders of the free world.

Our economy is being destroyed after being rebuilt in the previous administration.

Our democracy is being destroyed.

Our voting process is being decimated.

Maybe to put it in the simplest of terms, we should ask the Cult of Trump to watch Captain America: Civil War. Pretty much the same concept.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
3. +5000. :) The other 5000 is for our domestic enemies
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 05:43 PM
Mar 2018

among ultrawealthy conservatives. They're the same sorts those who came before us finally defeated in the 1930s. Mostly just by finally voting to say no to them and electing and reelecting FDR.

I mention them because IMO they're far, far, far more of a threat to us than Russia. We'd have kicked that adventuring criminal running that pissant country into a yurt in central Asia if our domestic plotters didn't find his exporting of corruption to join theirs and attacks on democracy to join theirs useful.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
15. Agree, 100%.
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 07:41 PM
Mar 2018

Americans are kept busy with the sensationalized issues of the Mercer's and Trump's corruption and money trails (which Mr. Mueller will take care of), but the real elephant in the room is the billions that the global wealthy pour into slowly debasing and destroying our foundations of government - at local, state and federal levels. They are a patient bunch and have been doing this for decades but the volume got turned up 10X after Citizens United.

Organizations such as Heritage Foundation, ALEC, News Corp. (Murdoch) and dozens more are doing far more long-term damage that Putin could dream of. He is, however, a very useful accomplice and accelerates the process.

Throwing the 2016 election just knocked off 10 to 20 years off their Master Plan.
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peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
4. Exactly!!
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 05:50 PM
Mar 2018

There's no way to minimize this mess or pretend that the Trumpster wasn't a willing vessel for a very complicated plot to assault democratic governance, not only here but around the world.

He signed on and will be held accountable. Along with the rest.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,328 posts)
10. TrumPutin is the tool
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 07:09 PM
Mar 2018

TrumPutin is too narcissitic to be a puppet, but he's definitely Putin's tool and operating in furtherance of Vlad's plans.

The GOP is likewise a tool, except they are wielded more by our own oligarchs than by Putin. Or, at least, so far as we know at this time.

Biggest existential threat to the U.S. since the Civil War; biggest existential threat to democracies worldwide since World War II.

still_one

(92,138 posts)
2. I dont think they do Maggie, but thanks to some of your coverage, some I think give him the benefit
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 05:37 PM
Mar 2018

of the doubt.

Reality though is quite consistent. Assume the worst, and 9 out of 10 Times trump will do it

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
14. Him and Bill Kristol too
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 07:20 PM
Mar 2018

I can't believe people still put that guy on TV. Literally wrong about everything always.

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
8. Wrong
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 07:04 PM
Mar 2018

Putin does have a grand plan and if you don't think it's working or the F'n MORON tRUMP isn't a part of it you're on the wrong side of knowledge.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
11. Don't "misunderestimate" the enemy. Big mistake.
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 07:16 PM
Mar 2018

No, it wouldn't be Trump's plan. But he's surrounded by snakes who can put together a strategic plan. It's not that complicated, if it's based mainly on surprise.

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