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Sunday Flynn gets pardoned, per Rachel Maddow. (Original Post) babylonsister Mar 2018 OP
Sunday, to distract from the Stormy Daniels interview in the evening nt lordsummerisle Mar 2018 #1
What scares me is what distraction tRump will use when Mueller's report comes out mitch96 Mar 2018 #30
Her theory TomSlick Mar 2018 #2
I don't get the strategy...they work for about 1hr and media goes back to reporting on Stormy.. HipChick Mar 2018 #3
Flynn will just be indicted by the AG of New York. Trust Buster Mar 2018 #4
People tend for forget that fact! tonyt53 Mar 2018 #6
Not me. I'm very happy knowing Flynn's toast Hortensis Mar 2018 #33
For what? former9thward Mar 2018 #16
Money laundering. Trust Buster Mar 2018 #22
I have seen no evidence of that relating to Flynn. former9thward Mar 2018 #23
You clearly have not followed the story. Trust Buster Mar 2018 #24
I clearly have been. former9thward Mar 2018 #25
I shouldnt have to do research for you. But here just one example. Trust Buster Mar 2018 #31
Not a credible site. former9thward Mar 2018 #38
I think you are confusing Flynn with Manafort Dream Girl Mar 2018 #29
If so then State charges should start Monday! bluestarone Mar 2018 #5
That's a "so what"- dawg day Mar 2018 #7
Only if it's said on FOX rickford66 Mar 2018 #8
Flynn has already flipped. herding cats Mar 2018 #9
Gee. Why does he need a pardon? Hahaha Freethinker65 Mar 2018 #10
Rachel's Office Pool rasberry Mar 2018 #11
I think that trump will declare war on Mars or Jupiter Gothmog Mar 2018 #12
Haha! Nothing will surprise me. nt babylonsister Mar 2018 #13
Trump could wimp out and declare war on the Moon or Atlantis Gothmog Mar 2018 #15
Please, not the moon! Those are his people! ProudLib72 Mar 2018 #20
Too late EffieBlack Mar 2018 #14
Wouldn't be surprised. IluvPitties Mar 2018 #17
Flynn only plead guilty to lying to the FBI OliverQ Mar 2018 #18
He can pardon Flynn. But that won't prevent Mueller from forcing Flynn pnwmom Mar 2018 #19
My bet: tRump sticks his head in the toilet and refuses to come up for air ProudLib72 Mar 2018 #21
The last & big game (Kansas DuKe) starts 5:05 on Sunday-CBS leading right into Stormy on 60 Minutes underpants Mar 2018 #26
I dont think Flynn wants to risk indictment of his son by federal or state authorities. 33taw Mar 2018 #27
He will declare war on North Korea RainCaster Mar 2018 #28
Of course accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt. workinclasszero Mar 2018 #32
I don't think he can be pardoned for crimes he already pleaded guilt to...and he can be tried in Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #36
I think that's the trick, you HAVE to be guilty to get a pardon mitch96 Mar 2018 #39
Mostly in political situations...people are pardoned before pleading guilty...I mean Trump Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #40
It is a joke...supposedly to distract from Stormy. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #34
Sunday is the Stormy Daniels interview oberliner Mar 2018 #35
to take away from the Stormy bdamomma Mar 2018 #37
Ok, when is the pardon? former9thward Mar 2018 #41

mitch96

(13,872 posts)
30. What scares me is what distraction tRump will use when Mueller's report comes out
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 12:41 PM
Mar 2018

And they go after him..
I'm betting (a taco bet) that he will start a shooting war someplace. Prolly a false flag operation like the Gulf of Tonkin or nukes in Iraq. He will be counting on the fact that America will back the president during a major conflict, like Gulf 1 and 2.. Distract from Mueller.
That scares the shit out of me... He's fucken nuts..
m

TomSlick

(11,092 posts)
2. Her theory
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 10:08 PM
Mar 2018

is that Trump will need to make a big news splash just before the 60 Minutes Stormy Daniels interview.

The pool among the staff is what that news splash will be.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
33. Not me. I'm very happy knowing Flynn's toast
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 12:53 PM
Mar 2018

no matter what. There's also the possibility that Flynn could be prosecuted for the truly evil plot to kidnap Mr. Gulen for money and deliver him to a Turkish prison. Reportedly Mueller's investigated that but brought no indictment, leaving it open for state action even if federal action were blocked.

former9thward

(31,949 posts)
25. I clearly have been.
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 10:09 AM
Mar 2018

And since you are offering no evidence that means you have not. In any event money laundering is almost always a federal crime. State AGs can't charge federal crimes.

former9thward

(31,949 posts)
38. Not a credible site.
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 01:52 PM
Mar 2018

Or, in my opinion, a credible legal theory. I predict that people will continue to insist that state AGs are "investigating" and "will bring charges any day now" against anyone who Mueller does not charge with whatever crimes they think he should have charged them with.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
29. I think you are confusing Flynn with Manafort
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 11:35 AM
Mar 2018

Don’t believe Flynn has anything to do with money laundering

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
7. That's a "so what"-
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 10:23 PM
Mar 2018

1. He's already given Mueller all the information he had, no doubt under oath
2. His son could still be indicted, I bet
3. If he's pardoned, he still has to testify, and if he lies or refuses to talk, he can be indicted for that
4. He could be indicted by the NY AG.

But he's sure acting like he's fancy free-- actually endorsing a fruitnut candidate in California, who didn't seem to realize Flynn had pled guilty and turned on Trump.

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
9. Flynn has already flipped.
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 10:24 PM
Mar 2018

A pardon at this point is low end theater, at best. He knows his goose is still cooked and that's why he chose to flip.

Freethinker65

(10,001 posts)
10. Gee. Why does he need a pardon? Hahaha
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 10:53 PM
Mar 2018

Makes Trump look guilty as sin. At least with sherrif Joe it could be viewed solely as political pandering. Pardoning Flynn actually points to obstruction.

rasberry

(49 posts)
11. Rachel's Office Pool
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 10:56 PM
Mar 2018

Rachel was not reporting this as a fact. She said Trump would do "something" to distract and redirect the media on Sunday when 60 Minutes has Stormy interview. In the office pool she has "Flynn is pardoned." Sounds like other members of her staff have other distracting events. It is a game.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
14. Too late
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 12:30 AM
Mar 2018

Mueller's probably already got everything he needs from him. Now they're just making smalltalk.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
18. Flynn only plead guilty to lying to the FBI
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 12:56 AM
Mar 2018

so he's getting off super easy as it is. A pardon will just make his life even worse. I'm not even sure he'd accept it.

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
19. He can pardon Flynn. But that won't prevent Mueller from forcing Flynn
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 01:29 AM
Mar 2018

to testify against DT, in line with testimony he has already given -- that was helpful enough that Mueller gave him a great plea deal.

And if Flynn lies then he'll be subject to new perjury charges.

So go ahead, DT. Make Mueller's day.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
21. My bet: tRump sticks his head in the toilet and refuses to come up for air
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 01:41 AM
Mar 2018

He really needs to work at setting the bar extra low with an extremely bratty tantrum.

underpants

(182,632 posts)
26. The last & big game (Kansas DuKe) starts 5:05 on Sunday-CBS leading right into Stormy on 60 Minutes
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 10:33 AM
Mar 2018

Sorry had to crunch that all into the subject line.

First game is at 2:05 then the big matchup at 5:05. CBS will promote the hell out of Stormy being on 60 Minutes all day which not only will immediately follow the last basketball game of the weekend but also be a nice nightcap for all the guys who’ve been pounding beers all day watching basketball with a busty blonde pornstar. Gold Jerry GOLD!

33taw

(2,436 posts)
27. I dont think Flynn wants to risk indictment of his son by federal or state authorities.
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 10:34 AM
Mar 2018

I don’t think he would accept it.

RainCaster

(10,842 posts)
28. He will declare war on North Korea
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 10:54 AM
Mar 2018

Little Rocket Man will be his distraction, and our young will be the sacrifice.

Demsrule86

(68,504 posts)
36. I don't think he can be pardoned for crimes he already pleaded guilt to...and he can be tried in
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 01:38 PM
Mar 2018

state court too.

mitch96

(13,872 posts)
39. I think that's the trick, you HAVE to be guilty to get a pardon
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 02:20 PM
Mar 2018

Guilty but no time served. Only works in federal cases, not state... That's why Mueller is adding a lot of state crimes to the mix to take the Federal Pardon out of the punishment.
Like Manafort being indicted by the Southern District of New York. tRump can't help him there.
m

Demsrule86

(68,504 posts)
40. Mostly in political situations...people are pardoned before pleading guilty...I mean Trump
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 03:46 PM
Mar 2018

would be pardoning a man who admitted guilt...and some of this is in state court. It is probably allowed but bad optics.

bdamomma

(63,803 posts)
37. to take away from the Stormy
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 01:45 PM
Mar 2018

Daniels story, or will he fire John Kelly?? We know how tRump likes to distract and change the narrative. 2 words, fuck him.

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