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About cops shooting unarmed Black Men. (Original Post) safeinOhio Mar 2018 OP
And why do they always have to unload their guns? HopeAgain Mar 2018 #1
Fundamentally bad training to be so over-reactive. They're rarely in much danger when they draw. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2018 #2
absoultely the training Locrian Mar 2018 #3
Training must be much better when safeinOhio Mar 2018 #5
Yup, that too. Racism seems to be a factor that is not trained out. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2018 #6
It's more than cops, it's ingrained in us societally mythology Mar 2018 #4

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
1. And why do they always have to unload their guns?
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 08:10 AM
Mar 2018

How many shots does it take to stop somebody from aiming so you can take cover. I think they are looking for the chance to kill a black person.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,994 posts)
2. Fundamentally bad training to be so over-reactive. They're rarely in much danger when they draw.
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 08:16 AM
Mar 2018

Police frequently advance with their guns drawn and then when they see "something" they over-react and fire instead of calling out, negotiating, talking down the situation.

With drawn guns pointed at the person, they aren't really in terrible danger.

When cops are killed by criminals it is when they are surprised without their guns drawn. Like routine traffic stops that explode. Not like the Philandro Castille murder.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
3. absoultely the training
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 08:49 AM
Mar 2018

I'm sure that they're also told that by shooting 'multiple times' it helps *prove* that they were "really afraid".

It's all "put em down! put em down!" mentality

Not to mention "dead men tell no tales" - makes it easy to make up anything they want. (not that they wouldn't even if the victim survives)

https://www.policeone.com/police-training/articles/125455-Competition-and-training-How-to-train-how-not-to-train/


"But, it is still a game and must be understood that it is only a shooting game. IPSC has evolved to a very exciting and competitive shooting sport. It has also become almost totally worthless as a means of testing your survival skills, and if you practice it on a routine basis, you are conditioning reflexive shooting techniques that couldwell be fatal to you if you try them on the street."

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,994 posts)
6. Yup, that too. Racism seems to be a factor that is not trained out.
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 01:17 PM
Mar 2018

But training to avoid over-reacting will help reduce over-reacting to non-whites.

Especially if over-reacting is no long accepted by society for use of force.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
4. It's more than cops, it's ingrained in us societally
Sat Mar 24, 2018, 09:47 AM
Mar 2018
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/12/science-of-racism-prejudice/

Fixing the issue isn't as easy as saying "hey shoot less". We need to recondition ourselves at a young age that black men and boys aren't inherently scary because they are black. When we perceive threats, we tend to respond instinctively, if our subconscious bias is that this black man (or even boy like Tamir Rice) is likely to harm, the natural embedded response is to strike first. It's hard to condition that response out of somebody. It's easier to avoid conditioning it in the first place.
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